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Old October 29th, 2011, 10:54 AM   #1
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[V] Vatican City

Apparently there isn't a thread about the smallest indipendent state of the world. So, here it is:



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Old October 29th, 2011, 10:58 AM   #2
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I've seen motorway interchanges larger than this state

I've been there 4 years ago. It has only urban streets and they are quite crowded with tourists. I don't know about smaller back streets though...
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Old October 29th, 2011, 12:38 PM   #3
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There is a railway too.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 04:33 PM   #4
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In the Vatican? I didn't know there was an inch (centimeter, if you prefer) of public street there. I've never actually been there, but I always had the impression it was just Saint Peter's Square - and that that was for pedestrians - and assumed everything behind the church was just accessed on foot. Are there ways in other than the square?
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Old October 29th, 2011, 04:36 PM   #5
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See Google Earth imagery with international borders layer turned on. Most of Vatican are actually gardens and parks.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 04:40 PM   #6
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There are some roads in the Vatican, but only the Church and some other buildings are accessible to the public, also because of the very limited space. The railway is rarely used by freight trains and by the Pope (the last time he used the train was the 27th October of this year, to go to Assisi). The Vatican state also has license plates for vehicles, stamps, coins, passports and so on, just like any other state.

http://maps.google.ch/maps?q=Vatican...icano&t=h&z=17
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Old October 29th, 2011, 04:52 PM   #7
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There's also, it appears, a break in the road system (in the center on this: http://maps.google.ch/maps?q=Vatican...icano&t=m&z=18 )

Unless the map's wrong or I'm missing something, you can't get from one part of the Salita ai Giardini to the other without going through Italy.

Would Salita ai Giardini mean Exit to the Gardens?

I wonder how many other countries have interrupted road systems like that?
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Old October 29th, 2011, 05:17 PM   #8
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"Salita" means "climb", it's a false friend of the Spanish word "salida", which means "exit". So "salita ai giardini" means "climb to the gardens". "Salita a/ai XYZ" is quite a common name for steep urban streets italian speaking cities.

There are many similar siltuation, like this Austrian valley and the nearby Jungholz, and many enclaves/exclaves.
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Is this thread for real? Btw, the Vatican City is "V".
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Old October 30th, 2011, 12:10 AM   #10
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Is this thread for real?
Why not? There should be at least one thread for every indipendent country
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Old October 30th, 2011, 12:46 AM   #11
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There is a railway too.
It's meter gauge and till recently, hadn't been used in over 20 years. It's sole purpose when built, was to bring the faithful from a nearby train station, to the Vatican grounds. Not too sure about freight operations.

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Is this thread for real? Btw, the Vatican City is "V".
Yup. This thread is for real Verso. It's it's own little nation.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 03:46 PM   #12
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I guess this is the main road border for most of the highway network, but not sure if there's another one up north somewhere for the other section (or perhaps they are connected, it's not that easy to tell)

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Old October 31st, 2011, 01:34 AM   #13
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That's the main entrance, since it leads to Via Aurelia (SS 1) and is the quickest way out of the city. But there is another border crossing for cars in the East to the Via di Porto Angelica (actually it IS the Porto Angelica), But from there, it's much more complicated to get anywhere, since it a one-way street.

The Vatican road network ist not parted but linked by a parking lot at the Musei Vaticani building which can be reached from both border crossings.

On foot, you can pass from Italy to the Vatican by just going onto St. Peter's place, or you use the entrance to the Vatican Museums in the north section of the wall at the Viale Vaticano.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 02:30 AM   #14
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Why do you occupy worldwide web with these forums?
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Old November 27th, 2011, 07:31 PM   #15
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Well, there's even an airport in the Vatican, if you want to call the helipad at the westernmost corner that...
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Old November 29th, 2011, 05:18 AM   #16
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Yeah Yeah. Some expensive Mansions have helipads but they don't have their own forum
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Old November 29th, 2011, 02:48 PM   #17
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As far it's a independent state internationally recognized it deserves its own thread. One state = one thread, like SSC's tradition. One more about Monaco and the European microstates are all represented.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 02:52 PM   #18
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Any motorway plans for Vatican?

I'm just kidding, Vatican is a beautiful city/state.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 05:19 PM   #19
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I do not think on any motorway plans but I think that if any forumer posts here anything about traffic there (laws, control or anything) maybe because it is the smaller country in the world, it will be, at least, very curious
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I would be inclined to think that they would be the same as Italy.
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