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Old December 8th, 2011, 09:14 AM   #1081
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Higher fare hike could save TTC service
Published On Wed Dec 07 2011
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Would a higher TTC fare hike in January be worth the pain if it prevents service cuts on 62 bus and streetcar routes?

A 15-cent fare increase could be on the table at next week’s TTC board meeting, instead of the 10-cent increase that was expected to be approved.

But the extra nickel will be considered seriously only if the city and TTC find a way to maintain current service beyond next year. Nobody wants to go for that, if it means the agony of reducing buses for more riders next year.

The TTC expects to provide 15 million more rides next year — 503 million rides in total.

TTC vice-chair Peter Milczyn prompted the city’s budget committee to have staff check into the impact of a 15-cent increase as a means of maintaining current service levels rather than going back to pre-2004 standards.

The extra nickel would raise $15 million.

The staff report will consider a 15-cent hike in conjunction with a guarantee that the city’s 2012 transit subsidy of $404 million would remain stable for the next three years — and the expectation of a modest, predictable fare increase in each of those years, probably a dime each time.

It’s a complicated scenario because the 15-cent solution only works for a year, said Milczyn, the city councillor for Ward 5, Etobicoke-Lakeshore. He hasn’t decided yet whether to table the 15-cent option at the transit commission next Wednesday.

“We run into a brick wall in 2013 because we would have no buses to provide that (level of) service,” he said, citing the TTC’s looming capital budget shortfall.

In September, the TTC projected an $800 million capital shortfall over 10 years. The city has agreed to pay that.

However, anticipating that fewer vehicles will be needed, transit officials had already cancelled an order for 108 new buses. Unless it can re-order those by spring, the system won’t have enough buses to serve its growing ridership, said TTC chief general manager Gary Webster.

Adding the vehicles would cost about $90 million, including the $23 million price of a storage garage.

Also the TTC has already scheduled its workers for January based on less service. It will be a scramble to draw up new staff assignments, but it could be done, Webster said.

However, he conceded, “There’s not a lot of time for us to put the service back in place and buy some buses.”

TTC staff didn’t recommend a higher fare increase in the first place because nobody wants to restore the service in January only to have it pulled again next year, Webster said. He also worries that ridership will be driven down by hiking fares and running fewer buses.

“I’m encouraged that people are trying to find a way to maintain the service level we have today. The challenge is to find a way that’s affordable on the capital and operating side — and in the long term,” he said.

Although she wants to preserve service, TTC chair Karen Stintz said she has “a lot of discomfort with 15 cents.”

“Fares should go up consistently and people should be able to budget for it, but when you’re looking at who you’re asking to pay, you can’t ask those with the lowest income to be paying for a subsidy reduction,” she said.

TTC riders don’t want fares to rise at all, particularly given that the city is sitting on a surplus from 2010, said transit advocate Jamie Kirkpatrick, of the TTCriders lobby.

Although polls show riders prefer fare increases to service cuts, the fact that the province doesn’t subsidize the TTC’s operating costs at all “means Toronto taxpayers and the riders are always going to be hit with more than their fair share of running the TTC,” he said.

The fare hike is another example of literally nickel-and-diming taxpayers, said Councillor Paula Fletcher.

Related: Service cuts affect low-income areas most

“There’s $2 for swimming pools, there’s another 5 cents for the TTC — while we’re sitting here with a $139 million piggybank of taxpayer dollars,” she said, citing a proposal by budget chief Mike Del Grande to introduce a $2 fee for leisure swims at outdoor pools, currently free.

Mayor Rob Ford has made it clear he doesn’t want the projected end-of-year surplus to be used for maintaining the status quo.

It’s commendable that people are looking for solutions, Fletcher said, “But what really needs to happen is taxpayer savings need to be applied to services.”
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Old December 8th, 2011, 06:28 PM   #1082
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"... could save TTC service"




I'm still curious to see Toronto's new boas snake the bends either side of Union --preferably the inner ones!-- yet all I could score was merely several seconds' worth captured on the east inner one in the following file, oh well:





general trains, noisiness , good videography
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Old December 8th, 2011, 06:52 PM   #1083
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Look at the train, the municipality of Champigny sur Marne a parisian inner suburbs, used to illustrate the new metro planned.
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Old December 8th, 2011, 07:16 PM   #1084
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:57 AM   #1085
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Quote:
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I'm still curious to see Toronto's new boas snake the bends either side of Union --preferably the inner ones!-- yet all I could score was merely several seconds' worth captured on the east inner one in the following file, oh well:
Use "Toronto Rocket", or "TR" as your search words.

We call our new trains Toronto Rockets, or TR's.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 06:37 PM   #1086
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Thank you ... after my own hunt, it would appear that the lack of videographic skill is how come you hadn't posted any other such clip yourself.
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Old January 5th, 2012, 03:34 AM   #1087
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Finally!


G Series shown at the beginning and toward the end at 2'09"
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Old January 5th, 2012, 03:37 AM   #1088
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Semi- -- super dangerous manœuvre @ 1'32"
(It's been many years since I last saw Montreal's own train aux poubelles(?)...)
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Old January 5th, 2012, 03:48 AM   #1089
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Old January 5th, 2012, 03:49 AM   #1090
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Old January 5th, 2012, 03:52 AM   #1091
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Old January 5th, 2012, 03:54 AM   #1092
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Old January 11th, 2012, 02:41 AM   #1093
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Old April 19th, 2012, 10:55 AM   #1094
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Appears tax increases for transit funding is not a bad idea after all in the GTA : 74% in Toronto area support small sales tax hike if money goes to transit: poll
"Residents of the Greater Toronto Area overwhelmingly support a local sales tax dedicated to building public transit and other infrastructure, a new poll suggests.

The survey, conducted by Environics for urban affairs magazine Spacing, found that 74 per cent of respondents backed the idea of paying half a percentage point more in sales tax if the money raised was funnelled into transit. Only 26 per cent said they were opposed.

Strong majorities of respondents in both the city of Toronto and its suburbs favoured the tax: the lowest level of support was in Halton Region west of the city, where 67 per cent still supported the concept.

The poll’s suggestion that 905 voters back the tax may be its most important finding. The suburbs are the key battleground in provincial and federal elections. They also have less transit infrastructure and far lower ridership numbers than the city."
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Old June 3rd, 2012, 09:05 PM   #1095
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For some reason it wasn't mentioned, but the 3 LRT lines have been re-instated by city council after rob ford made one of them completely underground (would have been the only 100% underground LRT in the world) and dumping the other 2.

heres a map of what is now happening;



http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/04/m...n_for_toronto/
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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:56 PM   #1096
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I took some photos yesterday of the ongoing construction at Queen and Spadina - streetcar tracks are being replaced in one of the city's busiest intersections.

More pictures and video HERE

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Old July 19th, 2012, 06:11 PM   #1097
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Union Station, Toronto's largest transit hub, under construction:

More pictures and renderings HERE

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Old July 19th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #1098
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that's nice,I'm glad to see that some proposals of Transit City are being developed
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 06:59 PM   #1099
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just noticed last week that yrt and viva etc dont return change, thats literally stealing, its a shame
toronto really needs to improve its public transport and im really eager to see the results of expansions and improvements as soon as possible


also, on highway 7 and leslie, there are a few stations in the middle of the street, they have been u/c for a year now, what are they for? a possible tramway line?
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 08:35 PM   #1100
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Who would return change? The bus driver?

I believe both of those systems are supposed to be used primarily by presto smart card holders by now. I don't know many countries/cities where someone would give you change at a bus. Many places with smart cards have stopped taking cash altogether!
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