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Old July 23rd, 2012, 10:17 PM   #1101
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Who would return change? The bus driver?

I believe both of those systems are supposed to be used primarily by presto smart card holders by now. I don't know many countries/cities where someone would give you change at a bus. Many places with smart cards have stopped taking cash altogether!
the bus drivers and the ticket machines! cash is widely used yet they dont return change
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Old July 26th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #1102
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the bus drivers and the ticket machines! cash is widely used yet they dont return change
Interesting thing I learned from someone in a retailing program. By law change does not need to be provided by a vendor. It's just a courtesy to the shopper. Most newspaper boxes and payphones don't give change either. In most cases it's stated as such. The automated machines that GO Transit uses only take coins, so you're more likely to pay the exact amount unless you're using credit or debit.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 10:34 PM   #1103
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thats what im protesting at! what kind of law is that ? its straight up stealing/fraud


then they (authorities) say "we respect all people and their property and equality " blah blah blah

point is, you must return peoples' money if they want it back
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Old July 26th, 2012, 10:37 PM   #1104
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Just don't do business with them. No change? I'll gladly go somewhere else and I have a very very long memory.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #1105
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thats what im protesting at! what kind of law is that ? its straight up stealing/fraud


then they (authorities) say "we respect all people and their property and equality " blah blah blah

point is, you must return peoples' money if they want it back
At the risk of derailing this topic, the principle is why would you pay more than the asking price? Yes it's your property, one should be more careful with it.
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Old July 27th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #1106
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i only had two dollar coins
but that shouldnt be an issue in the first place if the system was proper!
and its not that they "forgot" to implement change return, its done on purpose, god knows how much extra money they generate from the potential hundreds of people that dont get their money returned to them per day
you get change back in the store, in the mall , in a restaurant, so why should it be any different for such services?
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Old July 27th, 2012, 12:15 AM   #1107
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Who would return change? The bus driver?

I believe both of those systems are supposed to be used primarily by presto smart card holders by now. I don't know many countries/cities where someone would give you change at a bus. Many places with smart cards have stopped taking cash altogether!
In Auckland, all buses give change, as do trains as the conductors carry money. Stockholm, however, doesn't even allow cash fares on their buses at all and the public transport system is totally cashless. Both are extremes and neither are great, but personally I prefer the cashless thing - stops issues with drivers or conductors having to carry extreme amounts of money - violence against bus drivers was a bit of an issue in Auckland according to drivers I spoke to.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #1108
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The cashless system in Stockholm seems to be fair, however it is not very flexible. For instance, the tourists who come by ferries usualy struggle to purahse a single ticket from the ticket machine or by sms (it should also be noted that this operation is not allowed for the ones who do not have a (swedish) mobile phone card conjugated with the personal swedish bank account anymore).
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Old July 30th, 2012, 08:54 PM   #1109
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Whats the progress on the airport rail link construction?
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Old July 30th, 2012, 11:37 PM   #1110
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The spur to the airport's not been mentioned for ages.
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Old July 31st, 2012, 03:41 AM   #1111
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Isnt it under construction?
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 04:24 PM   #1112
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Like Montreal's Dorval and Mirabel airports, I wonder if any Toronto's airport's been equipped with a station shell and how old it must be by now ...
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Like Montreal's Dorval and Mirabel airports, I wonder if any Toronto's airport's been equipped with a station shell and how old it must be by now ...
Terminal 3 is the only surviving original structure left at Pearson. Everything else was razed for the redevelopment. That would include any original station shell. A new station shell if you will was set aside when they built the new buildings. I believe it's in the vicinity of the multi-level parking garage at Terminal 1.

As for construction, they're still going about securing the right-of-way (i.e. creating all the necessary grade separations). Once that's in place and the spur line is built it'd just be a matter of putting the trains on the tracks.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 09:38 PM   #1115
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...starts construction on Toronto airport rail link
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Old August 4th, 2012, 02:28 PM   #1116
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guys does anybody know what they are building on highway 7 close to leslie ? a tram line?
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Old August 4th, 2012, 03:04 PM   #1117
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A busway. Might be converted to Light Rail later.
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Old August 4th, 2012, 03:43 PM   #1118
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A busway. Might be converted to Light Rail later.
Canadians going 3rd World now? Why not build LRT right now?
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Old August 4th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #1119
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A busway. Might be converted to Light Rail later.
wow, over a year work digging and building such stations for a brt lane?
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Old August 5th, 2012, 04:32 PM   #1120
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well to be fair they had to widen the entire highway 7 by 3ish lanes to keep the original 6 lanes of car traffic and to squeeze in a bike lane. Unlike other median BRT lines which just take away lanes and slap on some platforms.
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