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Old June 30th, 2014, 02:21 PM   #301
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I'm confused. How is it even possible that the current pedestrian bridge will remain? For starters, it's out of place architecturally, but that aside, I figured the concrete support pillars in the middle of the highway would pose an issue. I'm referring to the pillars closest to the VSC and just outside the security perimeter on the east side of the highway. I'm no highway planner, but on the camera, those look pretty far into the future highway lanes. I have always suspected that they would tear down the existing bridge and build a new one. I'm very confused by this.
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Old July 1st, 2014, 10:53 PM   #302
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I'm confused. How is it even possible that the current pedestrian bridge will remain? For starters, it's out of place architecturally, but that aside, I figured the concrete support pillars in the middle of the highway would pose an issue. I'm referring to the pillars closest to the VSC and just outside the security perimeter on the east side of the highway. I'm no highway planner, but on the camera, those look pretty far into the future highway lanes. I have always suspected that they would tear down the existing bridge and build a new one. I'm very confused by this.
I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread that, when the bridge is connected to the VSC, those support pillars will be removed.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 04:54 AM   #303
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I was there today. It's nice!
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Old July 4th, 2014, 06:34 AM   #304
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Poor Penn Station, that's all I can say. Beauty and the Beast.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 08:38 AM   #305
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Poor Penn Station, that's all I can say. Beauty and the Beast.
Hopefully Penn Station will be reborn within the decade when MSG is kicked out of its current location.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 08:52 AM   #306
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I was there today. It's nice!
So when do you post your pictures..? Especially from the east side which is hidden on the webcams would be most interesting!
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Old July 4th, 2014, 07:48 PM   #307
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So when do you post your pictures..? Especially from the east side which is hidden on the webcams would be most interesting!
RW doesn't post his own pictures. He just walks by and tells us about it.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 04:05 AM   #308
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Old July 24th, 2014, 11:34 PM   #310
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Finalized schematic of Liberty Street. Just so you all know, the barriers, personnel booths and equipment houses (for personnel booths) are being designed by the same architects that design newsstands and bus shelters throughout the city. The whole point of the security plan is to make the campus safe while making the systems (personnel booths, bollards, barriers, etc) blend in with the surrounding streetscape. The security plan will in no way impact pedestrian foot traffic. All bollards are placed 4 feet apart from each other, allowing pedestrians to easily flow through the streets.



The personnel booths will look similar to this newsstand, expect 11 feet tall. Some sally ports around the site will incorporate that canopy roof to connect the personnel booth to the equipments house.

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Old July 25th, 2014, 01:55 AM   #311
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I had to laugh when I read the comment about the guard posts and bollards etc. being designed to blend in with the streetscape! No matter how they are designed they are going to stick out like a sore thumb and by installing them we are just admitting that the terrorists won. Besides, all the securities being installed for the 4 buildings and the transportation hub but what about Wall Street, the Empire State building, Rockefeller Center, Statue of Liberty, etc.?? Are we going to do the same thing for all those places too?
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Old July 25th, 2014, 01:57 AM   #312
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Don't know where you've been, but Wall Street's been like that for a while...

Do you want this complex to be destroyed again? The security is for the safety of the people there and to ensure it will never be destroyed.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 05:15 PM   #313
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securtiy

^ BTW, none of the extensive "security" vis a vis bollards, checkpoints, etc. etc. would have prevented 9/11...

I agree with the security state being a symbol that on some level the terrorists did indeed win by seemingly permanently changing our way of life...

all of it is overkill if you balance the chance of dying by terrorist versus almost any other act: get run over by a car, get murdered, get struck by lightning, etc. etc.

(also, subject line suffers from a little typing dyslexia :-) )
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Old July 26th, 2014, 01:54 AM   #314
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From WTCProgress,

"Liberty Park construction continues at WTC"

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Old July 26th, 2014, 04:50 PM   #315
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Finally a different angle than the earthcam provides! Although one could have hoped to see even more progress.. but at least work is going on all over the site!
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Old July 26th, 2014, 04:58 PM   #316
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Liberty St will be paved soon. All the barriers and the personnel booth are in place near the West St intersection. The finalized plan is those schematics I posted.
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Old July 26th, 2014, 06:28 PM   #317
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So even when all is said and done, the average Joe can't drive his automobile through Vesey, Greenwich, or Liberty streets? What is this madness? If terrorists really wanted to kick down our sandcastle a second time, no amount of street security would stop it; they may be barbaric, but they're not stupid. And to think, after "surviving" Y2K I thought that the 21st century would bring great things for American comfort, morale, and livelihood... little did I know that it would be the end of "our" century. We've been humbled, to say the least.

Oh well... Cars are yesterday's world anyway, right?
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Old July 30th, 2014, 02:18 AM   #318
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Liberty Bridge extension removal commencing 9/14 in preparations to extend the bridge to the VSC.

VSC - Phase I (Beneficial Use) > 8/2014; Phase 2 (Bus Parking) > 12/2015; Phase 3 (Helix to PAC) > 2016

Liberty Park has a opening timeframe of Q2 2015, delayed from the previous Q1 opening.

The PA is currently creating plans to use the 9A S/B lanes into Liberty Street for WTC construction vehicles.
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Old July 30th, 2014, 10:44 PM   #320
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Liberty Bridge extension removal commencing 9/14 in preparations to extend the bridge to the VSC.
Very excited for this; it's been nearly three decades in the making.

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Liberty Park has a opening timeframe of Q2 2015, delayed from the previous Q1 opening.
So, if all goes according to (today's) plan, Liberty Park will more or less open in conjunction with the mall. Sweet.
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