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Old June 9th, 2013, 11:01 AM   #141
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According to AnsaldoBreda NS did drive 250 with the V250 Fyra during snowy conditions
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Corporate macaroniness at its best. What does using trains at designed speed, albeit with snow, have to do with the flaws highlighted in posts
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Old June 9th, 2013, 01:57 PM   #142
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SNCB and NS has no excuse!!!!!!!!
Have used the train as house vacuum cleaner .
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Old June 9th, 2013, 02:32 PM   #143
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True, they have no excuse.

They should have known that they were buying trains from an incompetent company that builds trains that break down from every little bump in the road... eh... I mean tracks.
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Old June 9th, 2013, 02:37 PM   #144
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Have used the train as house vacuum cleaner .
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Old June 9th, 2013, 03:12 PM   #145
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True, they have no excuse.

They should have known that they were buying trains from an incompetent company that builds trains that break down from every little bump in the road... eh... I mean tracks.
I think when the order was done, the problems with Ansaldo Breda weren't known yet. The company has a delay in orders of what, 4-5 years? These trains should have been delivered so many years ago and then when they are finally finished, they are just a heap of metal and wiring. I'm gladd at least Siemens is delivering great commuter trains to Belgium now.(Desiro)

In the meanwhile, Sweden and Denmark are put up with lightrail systems that fall apart also made by Ansaldo Breda. The floors just rust out afther a year lol

I guess it's bad maintanance, bacause that's all the Italians have to say.

Ow yes don't forget Willele's comment two. They used their lightrail trains as vacuum cleaners!
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Old June 9th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #146
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And how exactly do you use a train as a vacuum cleaner??
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Old June 9th, 2013, 04:58 PM   #147
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I think when the order was done, the problems with Ansaldo Breda weren't known yet. The company has a delay in orders of what, 4-5 years? These trains should have been delivered so many years ago and then when they are finally finished, they are just a heap of metal and wiring. I'm gladd at least Siemens is delivering great commuter trains to Belgium now.(Desiro)

In the meanwhile, Sweden and Denmark are put up with lightrail systems that fall apart also made by Ansaldo Breda. The floors just rust out afther a year lol

I guess it's bad maintanance, bacause that's all the Italians have to say.

Ow yes don't forget Willele's comment two. They used their lightrail trains as vacuum cleaners!
I think you are thinking of Norway and Sweden. Denmark have trains by them which have been put into traffic between Italy and Libya.
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Old June 9th, 2013, 05:00 PM   #148
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And how exactly do you use a train as a vacuum cleaner??

I think he is implying now that we used the train on track that weren't ready or something like that so that Fyra had to take all the first hits on what as wrong with the tracks...
Maybe he means something like that.

Infact, the tracks have been ready for a long time and have been used by 200km/h Belgian cummuter trains for years.
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Old June 9th, 2013, 05:02 PM   #149
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I think you are thinking of Norway and Sweden. Denmark have trains by them which have been put into traffic between Italy and Libya.
Ok I must have mistaken.
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Old June 9th, 2013, 05:15 PM   #150
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I think when the order was done, the problems with Ansaldo Breda weren't known yet. The company has a delay in orders of what, 4-5 years? These trains should have been delivered so many years ago and then when they are finally finished, they are just a heap of metal and wiring. I'm gladd at least Siemens is delivering great commuter trains to Belgium now.(Desiro)
The Fyra trains have been ordered in 2004, back then the Norwegian railways had lots of problems with their new AnsaldoBreda trains for several years already. The Danish IC4 trains were also scheduled to enter service in 2003, they were already delayed by then.

So AnsaldoBreda already had a bad reputation back then and that was widely known in the railway business.
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Old June 9th, 2013, 05:16 PM   #151
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I think you are thinking of Norway and Sweden. Denmark have trains by them which have been put into traffic between Italy and Libya.
The Copenhagen metro has trains from AnsaldoBreda as well, but I haven't heard anything about them rusting away.
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Old June 9th, 2013, 05:22 PM   #152
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The Fyra trains have been ordered in 2004, back then the Norwegian railways had lots of problems with their new AnsaldoBreda trains for several years already.
So AnsaldoBreda already had a bad reputation back then and that was widely known in the railway business.
The Type 72 trains delivered in the early 2000s to the Norwegian state railways (NSB) did have some serious problems intitally, primarily because they were too heavy and had to be rebuilt. The trains were delayed by years. But these trains actually work fine now, and a spokesman recently stated that they consider them among their best trains ever.
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And how exactly do you use a train as a vacuum cleaner??

Just look at the nose of this thing

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Old June 9th, 2013, 07:33 PM   #154
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Will NS send a V250 to the railway museum in Utrecht or not?
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Old June 9th, 2013, 08:29 PM   #155
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The serious incidents of AnsaldoBreda in Madrid metro started in 2002, when the 7000 series were delivered.
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I had misstated something on this thread before. AnsaldoBreda actually won the contract to supply trains o Honolulu Rail Transit, a long heavy elevated rail line under construction in Hawaii.

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I had misstated something on this thread before. AnsaldoBreda actually won the contract to supply trains o Honolulu Rail Transit, a long heavy elevated rail line under construction in Hawaii.

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What has this fact got to do with AnsaldoBreda (Fyra) Albatros V250? Is this the demostration that the Albatros V250 are good trains?
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What has this fact got to do with AnsaldoBreda (Fyra) Albatros V250? Is this the demostration that the Albatros V250 are good trains?
It has nothing to do with the V250. Isn't this thread named MISC | Ansaldo Breda? Or is it specific for the V250 project?
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Will NS send a V250 to the railway museum in Utrecht or not?
Probably they will be sent to the skrapyard or given for free to Trenitalia/FS Group or the Fyra Albatros Carriages will be recycled into a very hybrid Bombardier-Zefiro Etr1000-AnsaldoBreda Albatros -FyraV250, to be used in Italy as Regional High Speed Trains.
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