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Old June 10th, 2013, 10:23 PM   #161
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Some photos form AB's Napoli plant: http://forum.milanotrasporti.org/vie...479002#p479002
Did you just say "Napoli" (Naples)??

Should we understand that the Fyra were built there, and if so, should we understand other things about that?
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Old June 10th, 2013, 10:58 PM   #162
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All Fyra V250 trains were built in Pistoia, just like DSB's IC4.
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Old June 10th, 2013, 11:10 PM   #163
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Ansaldo Breda has also facilities in Palermo and Reggio Calabria (this one I think is has been idle for a while, but not sure).
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Old June 19th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #164
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 11:18 AM   #165
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Oh my. They reject all of the accusations, and insist the operators are at fault. Manfellotto and the idiotic AB management clearly do not understand that this way they are only infuriating their clients more. They even tried to crack solidarity between the Belgians and the Dutch by claiming that "the Dutch have been more flexible on this matter". As an icing on the cake, they obtained the Italian government's "support" in the form of special talks on the matter with their peers of the interested countries. Di Rupo, Belgian Prime minister (of Italian origins) has already answered making clear that "this is a merely industrial issue". What could one expect after the aforementioned "clever move"?
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 11:27 AM   #166
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The main question is why did they pick the Ansaldo Breda for the Fyra. Just because they were the cheapest or are is there more going on as Alstom has implied.
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 12:59 PM   #167
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Di rupo was not in power when ansaldobreda was chosen. More however, di rupo has no power if the flemish government thinks otherwise.

The dumping of the fyra and not paying any euro to ansaldo breda is been mainly pushed by the flemisch government. The walloon government has been suprisingly silent on the matter.
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 08:54 PM   #168
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Di rupo was not in power when ansaldobreda was chosen. More however, di rupo has no power if the flemish government thinks otherwise.

The dumping of the fyra and not paying any euro to ansaldo breda is been mainly pushed by the flemisch government. The walloon government has been suprisingly silent on the matter.
The Flemish government has nothing to do with this. It's completely federal. For the Belgian part that is.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 01:20 PM   #169
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Just in the news: Ansaldo is one of three partners that's gonna make the new Riyadh subway system. FIngers crossed (for the Saudis) they're the junior partner.

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20130730_00675818
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Old July 31st, 2013, 02:14 PM   #170
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No need to keep your fingers crossed: This concerns Ansaldo STS, not AnsaldoBreda.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 07:43 PM   #171
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Alstom will do the rolling stock if I'm not mistaken.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 10:17 PM   #172
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No need to keep your fingers crossed: This concerns Ansaldo STS, not AnsaldoBreda.
Both companies are involved in different packages. Metro trains are different from high speed trains, obviously.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 12:11 AM   #173
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Both companies are involved in different packages. Metro trains are different from high speed trains, obviously.
But AnsaldoBreda has also managed to deliver horrendous trams and metro's... it seems to be their thing.


AnsaldoSTS is a different story, and actually has a good track record with their signalling systems.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 12:37 AM   #174
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Thank goodness as their signalling systems are currently being rolled out on the red line of the Stockholm tunnelbana.
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But AnsaldoBreda has also managed to deliver horrendous trams and metro's...
which are your fav trams and metros..?
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Old September 13th, 2013, 12:25 AM   #176
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Yesterday a Dutch newspaper announced that on monday (16/9) Ansaldo Breda will give a press conference about a improved V250 which AB did just confirmed at there twitter acount.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 09:08 PM   #177
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* Foreign groups interested in Ansaldo STS, AnsaldoBreda

* Unions oppose ceding control to foreign groups

MILAN, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Finmeccanica told unions on Monday it is in advanced talks to sell its prized gas turbine unit AnsaldoEnergia to Korea-based Doosan Heavy Industries, a move that would help Italy's defence and aerospace group cut its large debt pile.

At a meeting with unions, Chief Executive Alessandro Pansa also said the state-backed group was in talks with foreign manufacturing companies for the possible sale of unprofitable train maker AnsaldoBreda and rail technology group AnsaldoSTS, two other units that are part of Finmeccanica's disposal plan.

Shares in Finmeccanica rose as much as 4.5 percent after the updateon a sale disposal plan worth around 1 billion euros that has been in the works for more than a year.

Rating agencies Fitch, Standard and Poor's and Moody's have all cut Finmeccanica's debt to 'junk' after political wrangling and a corruption investigation into an Indian helicopter tender slowed down the disposal plan.

In a statement, unions said they opposed the sale of the units to foreign groups unless prospective buyers gave clear reassurances that jobs and key technological know-how would stay in Italy, now in its second year of recession.

"We believe the Italian government should immediately get involved. We ask the government to clarify once and for all its position with regards to the sale process," the unions said.

Unions would like Italy's state-holding Cassa Depositi e Prestiti or its Italian Strategic Fund investment arm to buy a core stake in the three Finmeccanica's units to avoid ceding control to foreign players.

A union source said one of the options on the table was to sell a portion of Ansaldo STS together with AnsaldoBreda to make the latter more appealing to a prospective buyer.

Finmeccanica had 3.4 billion euros in net debt at end-2012.

Source: reuters
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Old September 30th, 2013, 04:05 PM   #178
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Denmark has now recieved it´s last IC4 train set (out of 82) except the one which Berlesconi gave to Gadaffi, and IC2 set out of 23 from Ansaldobreda.
They now occupy approx. 7½ km. of track at different locations around the country, here at the Copenhagen Airport depot.



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Old September 30th, 2013, 07:07 PM   #179
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are they operating normally now?

I was thinking... maybe Ansaldo Breda can sell the V250 to another buyer after fixing its problems?
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Old September 30th, 2013, 07:44 PM   #180
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On the other hand - who'd like to buy them with such history?
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