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Old August 16th, 2005, 08:45 PM   #61
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Yes, I enjoyed it, thank you very much :p
Seriously, though, I appreciate european architecture for what it is, but I don't believe that transplanting european design into the Philippines is going to transplant european charm or grandeur. We can be much more creative than that, and I wish that our architects would be bold enough to be that creative. Like Locsin, say what you will about his giant hollow blocks, but they were pretty cool in his time, and his work has developed a certain timelessness
Oh I guess we should forget about history and its impact on our society. Look at the big picture and just dont look at it with your nationalistic ideas. Nothing wrong with having different features and styles on our homes and public structures. If we want to learn from our past then one great example is our churches. In centuries past our churches didnt stand a chance against natural calamities like earthquakes, fires and typhoons because it was built entirely of wood, bamboo and materials not of sturdier kind. Now during the course of time people had to cope with these natural calamities even to this day, nothing wrong with building houses or public structures that has similarites with western design if it meant safety for its occupants. Practicality should also be taken into consideration and not just nationalistic ideas like yours. We live in an open world, the Philippines is part of that world and not the other way around.

Maybe you should walk the walk instead of talk to talk if you really have nationalistic values in you and spend your vacation in the Philippines this way you can help our fellow Filipinos improve their existence.

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Old August 17th, 2005, 01:49 AM   #62
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The Spoliarium is housed in the National Museum.
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Old August 17th, 2005, 04:23 AM   #63
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Old August 17th, 2005, 04:26 AM   #64
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I'm not sure but I guess it is.
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Old August 17th, 2005, 04:34 AM   #65
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How much do they charge for the entrance?
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Old August 17th, 2005, 05:30 AM   #66
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I have no idea.

How about the Museo Pambata? I'm taking my nieces there on weekend. Any idea?
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Old August 17th, 2005, 05:34 AM   #67
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Nat Museum Php 100 free if your student yata, can't remember , was 3 years since i've been there. very nice, and good museum but not totally finished as they want their exhibit to be world class, they have like many other museums 10x what they can actually display. The classic filipino masters are there , if you want modern filipino master go to...

Metropolitan Museum also nice, though small.
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Old August 17th, 2005, 05:43 AM   #68
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I think Filipinos are actually very art inclined though not clasical art as most people define it to be. Definitely you see a lot of pop art and performing arts and lots of patrons for that. Just because we don't have western art doesn't mean we don't appreciate it, just that we can't afford it! With a masterpiece costing more than the budget of DSWD we also have to prioritize

Also re European Architecture. It's really the market or the great mass of filipino people who vote with their peso who want this unfortunately. As a country of colonial maniacs people who are not as exposed, specially with education, only remember the rich persons house around the corner probably built in faux spanish style so hey that must be good and classy , let's make it look rococo palace like with gold eck etc. Anyway with increasing income tastes become more sophisticated. This is a worldwide thing as well as you can see kitsch accross texas, sun city SA, india, china, etc. After a while it becomes a question of taste which is further down the path of politics and religion
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Hehehehe I wonder how our national treasures would have fared if it was housed in nipa huts with leaky roofs instead of climate controlled environment. Do you honestly think we would still admire these artifacts or will they be rotting beyond recognition. Well anyway, I love the neo classical style of the National Museum and the exhibits housed in these western style structure. To each his own.
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There is a Natural History Museum in the UP Los Banos Makiling Campus on the way to the vast and verdant Botanical Garden. Going to a trip up there is awesome.
Plus a side trip to the hot springs & spas and big pools would be fun too.
There is a Vargas Museum inside the UP Diliman Campus behind the Faculty Center, along the academic oval fronting the UP Lagoon.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 05:11 AM   #71
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Oh I guess we should forget about history and its impact on our society. Look at the big picture and just dont look at it with your nationalistic ideas. Nothing wrong with having different features and styles on our homes and public structures. If we want to learn from our past then one great example is our churches. In centuries past our churches didnt stand a chance against natural calamities like earthquakes, fires and typhoons because it was built entirely of wood, bamboo and materials not of sturdier kind. Now during the course of time people had to cope with these natural calamities even to this day, nothing wrong with building houses or public structures that has similarites with western design if it meant safety for its occupants. Practicality should also be taken into consideration and not just nationalistic ideas like yours. We live in an open world, the Philippines is part of that world and not the other way around.

Maybe you should walk the walk instead of talk to talk if you really have nationalistic values in you and spend your vacation in the Philippines this way you can help our fellow Filipinos improve their existence.
Its not nationalism :p There's a HUGE difference between adapting foreign features and making a cheap copy. A prime example would be eastwood. There are other ways to adapt foreign elements. Look at Amman, the skyline is gorgeous! Their skyscrapers are sheathed in desert rock, adapting well to the surroundings. You see a perfect blend between the modern and the traditional. Or look at Shanghai or Lisbon. They have many beautiful structures that have no connection to their culture at all; these structures are completely new.

What I'm trying to say is that we should be a little more innovative. We have a wealth of elements in our own culture to adapt into the modern lifestyle. (I'm not going to point at Singapore, as they have some weird buildings, such as the "Durian". It truly looks like an 80's madonna bra cup, no matter what you say ) What we are doing here is NOT innovative. "Victorian-style living along Laguna de Bay", "An Italian town south of the Metro", "Swiss lifestyle in Tagaytay", these are examples of ventures that are clearly not innovative. Granted, there's a market for that in Las Vegas, as they have a copy+casino format going for them. But that is not our niche. It could be better.

Now, I'm gonna have to relate this to theater, museums, and art galleries on order to not be off topic In relation to that, its really fun how innovation can go wrong. Have any of you watched the Metropolitan's rendition of "A Midsummernight's Dream"? The costumes were GORGEOUS!!! And so was the set! It was truly eyecandy [for about five minutes before the play became ridiculously boring]


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There is a Natural History Museum in the UP Los Banos Makiling Campus on the way to the vast and verdant Botanical Garden. Going to a trip up there is awesome.
Plus a side trip to the hot springs & spas and big pools would be fun too.
There is a Vargas Museum inside the UP Diliman Campus behind the Faculty Center, along the academic oval fronting the UP Lagoon.
Campus museums are really cool, but I'm usually very tourist-y when I'm visiting museums, and as I'm still a student, its pretty embarrassing to be like that in another school
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Cheap copy daw!!! Ano ba 'tong napasukan ko at pinagaaksayahan ko ng panahon ay naku!! Sige na nga Imelda!!! Hahaha!
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Cheap copy daw!!! Ano ba 'tong napasukan ko at pinagaaksayahan ko ng panahon ay naku!! Sige na nga Imelda!!! Hahaha!
cheap is cheap. It wouldn't kill people to have some class.



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Old August 27th, 2005, 12:33 PM   #74
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ayala museum... its nice but a little bit of expensive..
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Old August 29th, 2005, 04:44 AM   #75
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De La Salle Manila Museum

check: The Museum at DLSU-Manila

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another nice museum to go to is the museum of the filipino people (old senate building in manila). it houses the galleon of san diego (a suken ship from the era of spanish colonization) and it's treasures and some archaeological finds from palawan. it's one of the best museums i've been to in the country. i was there as a requirement for my university history class a few years back. if i remember correctly, the exhibits were on 2 to 3 floors.
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Museo Iloilo


Museo Iloilo was designed by Ilongo architect Sergio Penasales, the same architect who did Antique’s Barbaza Catcholic Church --the church that was said to have the “most modern architectural style in the whole province of Antique.” Museo Iloilo’s permanent exhibit covers the cultural history of Western Visayas from prehistory to contemporary history. Inside is the carbon-q4 dated fossils, the swords and spears of the Mondo tribe of Panay, and the permanent exhibit showing an Ati family. What could surprise any visitor is the santo entiero or the dead Christ with a white hanky around its head. It looks so much like a preserved body of a dead person especially with the shriveled skin at its shoulders.
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too bad culture has been long forgotten by the masses.
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