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Old May 15th, 2012, 04:31 PM   #201
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The Dutch ANWB motorist/tourist association did a pre-euro 2012 "expedition" to Kiev from the Netherlands.

At first they took the southern route via Dresden and L'viv. Crossing the border took them 30 minutes. The road to L'viv was mediocre at best, but good from L'viv tot Kiev. The Dutch embassy advises this route to Kiev (and Charkov).

They took the M07 back, the northern route to Lublin and Warszawa. Despite stories about bad roads, the M07 was in good condition, but it's nearly entirely two-lane and can be quite boring and does not have much services. Crossing the border back into Poland took 1 hour. The average speed Kiev - Dorohusk was higher than Krakovets - Kiev.

They were stopped by the police just once; in the Netherlands

They do advise to buy a proper road map of the Kiev metropolitan area because most GPS's have less than 40% of the roads in Ukraine mapped, usually only the main routes, so finding your hotel or the stadium may prove to be somewhat difficult if you don't have a good map.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 02:14 AM   #202
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M06 and M07 should be in good conditions, but connections between them may be in very bad conditions. So if you appeared on one of them, just go straightforward and do not turn on the side M07 is two-lane, but almost empty (except for stretches near Kiev). But that may not be the case during EURO.
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Old May 21st, 2012, 06:40 PM   #203
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Lemberg - Rzeszow - Svidnik - Presov - Banska Bystrica

Hello altogether, in order to avoid "travelling by night through the ukraine" (Lemberg - Berehove by night) (right back to munich after GER-POR) its my intention to use the above mentioned route. Has anyone some experience with that route? exhausting/road conditions/safety etc... I'm looking forward to your answers....
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Old May 21st, 2012, 08:46 PM   #204
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Lemberg - Rzeszow - Svidnik - Presov - Banska Bystrica

Hello altogether, in order to avoid "travelling by night through the ukraine" (Lemberg - Berehove by night) (right back to munich after GER-POR) its my intention to use the above mentioned route. Has anyone some experience with that route? exhausting/road conditions/safety etc... I'm looking forward to your answers....
Some parts are new, some are old, some are under construction. The new parts of the Slovak D1 are very good.
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 11:08 AM   #205
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The Dutch ANWB motorist/tourist association did a pre-euro 2012 "expedition" to Kiev from the Netherlands.

At first they took the southern route via Dresden and L'viv. Crossing the border took them 30 minutes. The road to L'viv was mediocre at best, but good from L'viv tot Kiev. The Dutch embassy advises this route to Kiev (and Charkov).

They took the M07 back, the northern route to Lublin and Warszawa. Despite stories about bad roads, the M07 was in good condition, but it's nearly entirely two-lane and can be quite boring and does not have much services. Crossing the border back into Poland took 1 hour. The average speed Kiev - Dorohusk was higher than Krakovets - Kiev.

They were stopped by the police just once; in the Netherlands

They do advise to buy a proper road map of the Kiev metropolitan area because most GPS's have less than 40% of the roads in Ukraine mapped, usually only the main routes, so finding your hotel or the stadium may prove to be somewhat difficult if you don't have a good map.

Thanks for the update!
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Old May 25th, 2012, 12:26 PM   #206
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Are there any photos of the temporary Euro 2012 signs?

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Old May 25th, 2012, 03:48 PM   #207
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Old May 25th, 2012, 03:51 PM   #208
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Thanks! How frequently are they signposted?
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'At major [national] road crossings and borders' - that's all I've found.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 01:59 PM   #210
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Kyjiv? i have never seen that transliteration.
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Old May 26th, 2012, 02:27 PM   #211
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That's Ukrainian. We usually use the Russian name (Kiev).
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That's Ukrainian. We usually use the Russian name (Kiev).
and what about Kyiv? i thought that was proper ukrainian transliteration. actually, i have never seen transliteration with all 3 - y, j, i. slavic "j" is usually transliterated as "y".
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Old May 26th, 2012, 06:25 PM   #213
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In English, the name of the city is Kiev, but the usual transliteration from Ukrainian is Kyiv. Neither can be said to be wrong.
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This is Polish transliteration. In Ukrainian there is "Київ", where the letter of "ї" is transliterated to "ij" what altogether makes "Kyjiv".
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This is Polish transliteration. In Ukrainian there is "Київ", where the letter of "ї" is transliterated to "ij" what altogether makes "Kyjiv".
that finally explains it thanks
(but in that case it should be Kyjiw, shouldn't it? )
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More EURO signage:





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Old May 28th, 2012, 02:34 AM   #217
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look at the second pic, the green sign is unreadable
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look at the second pic, the green sign is unreadable
You're right. That's some good thinking.....
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look at the second pic, the green sign is unreadable
It's unreadable for pedestrians walking along the pavement/sidewalk. I can't be sure whether or not it's readable for motorists.
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It's unreadable for pedestrians walking along the pavement/sidewalk. I can't be sure whether or not it's readable for motorists.
You have to drive very slow in order to read the sign. But the signs are temporarily, so it's not that much of a problem.
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