TASMANIA/ NT Irelevent Threads (2004-2007)

CULWULLA · January 25th, 2004, 02:08 AM

found a pic showing Hobarts CBD tallest building. The 14storey/58m AMP Building built 1968 .The 73m/20st Wrest point is located some 2km away.
I think its time Hobart received a new tallest!!! what do ya think!
Somethink maybe-80m? a mixed use glass scraper for edge of CBD. This would take advantage of views. A large podium with tall tower with apartments/office/hotel. maybe an observation deck?

***Dilaz89*** · January 25th, 2004, 03:29 PM

hobart is in desperate need of a new tall! surely A/B grade office space must be low.

Will · January 26th, 2004, 12:19 AM

I think it is possible to build a mixed use skyscraper in Hobart.

My idea would be a building with apartments and a hotel, there could be some office space in the lower levels too.

I think this could work in Hobart, as it appears they have a shortage of hotel accomodation and apartments.

CULWULLA · January 26th, 2004, 01:55 AM

yeah. lets write a detailed letter/proposal to Hobarts Town planning and send the same letter to a dozen architects and developers and start up a frenzied competion for the landmark project! lol
there simply MUST be an excuse to erect such a building!
Hoabrt needs something like this? How many other capital cities in the world have the same tallest building since 1968??
thats 36 years!!!!

January 29th, 2004, 06:29 AM

Dont worry about the HCC, they're all stupid and any good ideas would go straight through them

You just need to look at CBD traffic flow to realise how stupid they are

Chuq · July 12th, 2004, 06:29 AM

Hi all,

I noticed the Hobart page on skyscrapers.com (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=169840) has a few ambiguious or conflicting building details. I'm posting the ones listed there here, with changes or suggestions, in case anyone else has any ideas. Of course, being the only Hobartian I don't think I'll be in luck, but this particular forum has been Darwin/Canberra dominated for too long! :-P

You might want to read these in conjuction with my map here -> http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=61922 - though the map doesn't have street names marked.

I have emailed this to the contact listed on the site - it didn't occur to me that the name (Richard Braddish) might actually be Culwulla :P

1. Wrest Point Casino (Sandy Bay) - good

2. AMP Building (Cnr Collins/Elizabeth) - good

3. Trafalgar Building
- Trafalgar building is 110 Collins St, not Cnr Harrington/Collins.
- Cnr Harrington/Collins is probably Fed Govt building (ATO) - 188 Collins St

4. Office Building 2 (Cnr Morrison/Brooke Sts)
- No building greater than 2 storey on this corner.
- May refer to one of the buildings in #6 below, possibly Aurora building.

5. Office Building 1 (Macquarie St)
- Unknown - probably refers to either
- Lands Building (134 Macquarie St)
- TGIO Building (144 Macquarie St)

6. Hobart City Council (Cnr Elizabeth/Morrison Sts)

- This corner contains, and may refer to either:
- Aurora Energy Head Office
- Marine Board Building
- It may also refer to the "HCC Service Centre" building, cnr Elizabeth/Davey St, next to Aurora building

7. Hotel Grand Chancellor (Cnr Campbell/Macquarie Sts) - good

8. Empress Towers - (Battery Square) - good

9. Office Building (Cnr Campbell/Liverpool Sts)

- Not familiar with this corner - no tall buildings on it, I don't think.
- Closest would be Royal Hobart Hospital @ 5-6 storeys.

10. Silo Apartments (Princess Wharf) - good, but "Castray Esplanade" more accurate address

CULWULLA · July 13th, 2004, 04:08 AM

thanks heaps. i actually started the hobart page and try to keep it updated and accurate but its bloody hard from Sydney!lol
ill update the stats you posted .any pics would be very helpful!!
cheers

Chuq · July 13th, 2004, 11:21 AM

Ahh.. I just checked ss.com and found that this page has the old names...
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/?id=100512

..and this one.. has ones pretty much similar to what I had suggested.
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/s...t=2&ht=2&sro=1

I also had just drawn up this little map -- the numbers refer to the order listed on ss.com.

How did you get the original data? (Number of floors, and especially height, etc). Did you cross check them with my suggested buildings, or have some other source of info that helped you to work out which was the correct one?

There are a few other skyscrapers (well, 8+ storey buildings at least

) I'll add once these are sorted out.

CULWULLA · July 13th, 2004, 12:44 PM

over the many years of research and studying cities buildings ect. i compiled alot of data.ive changed/altered names ect to what you posted.ill recheck again. these stats dont show for 24 hrs.even office buildings of 8-9 storeys would reach 35m+, so i can add these also all i need is a pic so i can scale or estimate.
cheers again

Chuq · July 14th, 2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CULWULLA

over the many years of research and studying cities buildings ect. i compiled alot of data.ive changed/altered names ect to what you posted.ill recheck again. these stats dont show for 24 hrs.even office buildings of 8-9 storeys would reach 35m+, so i can add these also all i need is a pic so i can scale or estimate.
cheers again

Well.. I have gathered the two sets of rooftop pics I have (one from the Reserve Bank Building, posted here a few months back, and one from the Trafalgar Building, taken last week). Using www.thelist.tas.gov.au and the photos I have managed to identify many more buildings worthy of listing on ss.com. Now that I have a list to go by, I will get decent pictures of each of them, hopefully so they can be ranked and added to the Hobart ss.com page

The pics are on my website: http://chuq.net/ss/

And here is the latest map!

ShayPlan · August 13th, 2004, 07:42 PM

Tasmania does not have the population density to build, let alone have the need, for a skyscraper. You said the tallest is 73m/20 storey casino, is that the tallest in the state?

Only way tas would get skyscrapers, if oz started opening up their arms to a greater population.

Favco750 · August 17th, 2004, 01:10 PM

There should be a tower crane either up or very close to it, a M230D, I saw it getting loaded out of a crane yard in melb 6 weeks or so ago. Don't know where in Tassie, but somewhere????

CULWULLA · August 18th, 2004, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShayPlan

Tasmania does not have the population density to build, let alone have the need, for a skyscraper. You said the tallest is 73m/20 storey casino, is that the tallest in the state?

Only way tas would get skyscrapers, if oz started opening up their arms to a greater population.

thats the tallest in tassie not Hobarts CBD. The wrest point tower is 2km from the CBD.

Trances · August 18th, 2004, 01:38 PM

well its 7 months later and still nothing has happened !
not that I expected it too

August 21st, 2004, 11:14 AM

100m seems more ideal for a little town like hobart if it wants something tall. but it have to be apartments and a hotel. shopping mall mabye?

CULWULLA · August 29th, 2004, 01:51 PM

heres a couple of classic shots from CML in 1950;s.
looking at T&G

Town hall

September 29th, 2004, 07:18 AM

Hello,
I am a Territorian and i love my footy! i wanna hear from my fellow Territorians and Darwinites about whether Darwin should submit an NRL & AFL team into the league? I am a big supporter of the North Queensland Cowboys, since Townsville & Cairns are our nearest neighbours and i generally support Adelaide crows in the AFL.
I know that Darwin is an AFL & bit of NRL crazed city. So come on Territorians and Darwinites, should we have our own teams in the national comp? I cant believe that Townsville& Cairns have an NRL team in the Comp and both cities have basketball teams in the NBL. Whats wrong with Darwin? Both Townsville and Cairns are relatively same size as Darwin (or bigger, i dont know) and they've managed to get a team in the NRL & NBL and probably the AFL (soon) cos i know Cairns is pretty big on AFL just like Darwin

jacobsian · September 29th, 2004, 07:22 AM

I think it would be best that you just continue supporting the Crows

September 29th, 2004, 07:28 AM

i'll keep supporting them in meantime. But would like to barrack behind my own city (hopefully soon)

kota16 · September 29th, 2004, 10:22 AM

What name would you give to your Darwin team? Would it be the Darwin Daredevils?

January 25th, 2004, 02:08 AM	#1
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	TASMANIA/ NT Irelevent Threads (2004-2007) found a pic showing Hobarts CBD tallest building. The 14storey/58m AMP Building built 1968 .The 73m/20st Wrest point is located some 2km away. I think its time Hobart received a new tallest!!! what do ya think! Somethink maybe-80m? a mixed use glass scraper for edge of CBD. This would take advantage of views. A large podium with tall tower with apartments/office/hotel. maybe an observation deck? __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

January 26th, 2004, 01:55 AM	#4
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	yeah. lets write a detailed letter/proposal to Hobarts Town planning and send the same letter to a dozen architects and developers and start up a frenzied competion for the landmark project! lol there simply MUST be an excuse to erect such a building! Hoabrt needs something like this? How many other capital cities in the world have the same tallest building since 1968?? thats 36 years!!!! __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

July 13th, 2004, 04:08 AM	#7
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	thanks heaps. i actually started the hobart page and try to keep it updated and accurate but its bloody hard from Sydney!lol ill update the stats you posted .any pics would be very helpful!! cheers __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

July 13th, 2004, 12:44 PM	#9
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	over the many years of research and studying cities buildings ect. i compiled alot of data.ive changed/altered names ect to what you posted.ill recheck again. these stats dont show for 24 hrs.even office buildings of 8-9 storeys would reach 35m+, so i can add these also all i need is a pic so i can scale or estimate. cheers again __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

August 18th, 2004, 01:38 PM	#14
Trances , , and , Fade to Black. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Living in London Posts: 7,896 Likes (Received): 4	well its 7 months later and still nothing has happened ! not that I expected it too __________________ "Are we ready to go farther or have we already gone to far?" “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”

January 25th, 2004, 03:29 PM	#2
*Dilaz89* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Perth, Dubai, World Posts: 13,929 Likes (Received): 187	hobart is in desperate need of a new tall! surely A/B grade office space must be low.

January 26th, 2004, 12:19 AM	#3
Will Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 829 Likes (Received): 0	I think it is possible to build a mixed use skyscraper in Hobart. My idea would be a building with apartments and a hotel, there could be some office space in the lower levels too. I think this could work in Hobart, as it appears they have a shortage of hotel accomodation and apartments.

January 29th, 2004, 06:29 AM	#5
Biggles (Tasboy) Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	Dont worry about the HCC, they're all stupid and any good ideas would go straight through them You just need to look at CBD traffic flow to realise how stupid they are

July 12th, 2004, 06:29 AM	#6
Chuq Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hobart, Tas Posts: 200 Likes (Received): 1	Hobart buildings on SS.com Hi all, I noticed the Hobart page on skyscrapers.com (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=169840) has a few ambiguious or conflicting building details. I'm posting the ones listed there here, with changes or suggestions, in case anyone else has any ideas. Of course, being the only Hobartian I don't think I'll be in luck, but this particular forum has been Darwin/Canberra dominated for too long! :-P You might want to read these in conjuction with my map here -> http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=61922 - though the map doesn't have street names marked. I have emailed this to the contact listed on the site - it didn't occur to me that the name (Richard Braddish) might actually be Culwulla :P 1. Wrest Point Casino (Sandy Bay) - good 2. AMP Building (Cnr Collins/Elizabeth) - good 3. Trafalgar Building - Trafalgar building is 110 Collins St, not Cnr Harrington/Collins. - Cnr Harrington/Collins is probably Fed Govt building (ATO) - 188 Collins St 4. Office Building 2 (Cnr Morrison/Brooke Sts) - No building greater than 2 storey on this corner. - May refer to one of the buildings in #6 below, possibly Aurora building. 5. Office Building 1 (Macquarie St) - Unknown - probably refers to either - Lands Building (134 Macquarie St) - TGIO Building (144 Macquarie St) 6. Hobart City Council (Cnr Elizabeth/Morrison Sts) - This corner contains, and may refer to either: - Aurora Energy Head Office - Marine Board Building - It may also refer to the "HCC Service Centre" building, cnr Elizabeth/Davey St, next to Aurora building 7. Hotel Grand Chancellor (Cnr Campbell/Macquarie Sts) - good 8. Empress Towers - (Battery Square) - good 9. Office Building (Cnr Campbell/Liverpool Sts) - Not familiar with this corner - no tall buildings on it, I don't think. - Closest would be Royal Hobart Hospital @ 5-6 storeys. 10. Silo Apartments (Princess Wharf) - good, but "Castray Esplanade" more accurate address

July 13th, 2004, 11:21 AM	#8
Chuq Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hobart, Tas Posts: 200 Likes (Received): 1	Ahh.. I just checked ss.com and found that this page has the old names... http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/?id=100512 ..and this one.. has ones pretty much similar to what I had suggested. http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/s...t=2&ht=2&sro=1 I also had just drawn up this little map -- the numbers refer to the order listed on ss.com. How did you get the original data? (Number of floors, and especially height, etc). Did you cross check them with my suggested buildings, or have some other source of info that helped you to work out which was the correct one? There are a few other skyscrapers (well, 8+ storey buildings at least ) I'll add once these are sorted out.

August 13th, 2004, 07:42 PM	#11
ShayPlan BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 139 Likes (Received): 0	Tasmania does not have the population density to build, let alone have the need, for a skyscraper. You said the tallest is 73m/20 storey casino, is that the tallest in the state? Only way tas would get skyscrapers, if oz started opening up their arms to a greater population.

August 17th, 2004, 01:10 PM	#12
Favco750 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,876 Likes (Received): 0	There should be a tower crane either up or very close to it, a M230D, I saw it getting loaded out of a crane yard in melb 6 weeks or so ago. Don't know where in Tassie, but somewhere????

August 21st, 2004, 11:14 AM	#15
Shuzstar Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	100m seems more ideal for a little town like hobart if it wants something tall. but it have to be apartments and a hotel. shopping mall mabye?

August 29th, 2004, 01:51 PM	#16
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	heres a couple of classic shots from CML in 1950;s. looking at T&G Town hall __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

September 29th, 2004, 07:18 AM	#17
roberta Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	Should Darwin submit an NRL team and AFL team into the competition? Hello, I am a Territorian and i love my footy! i wanna hear from my fellow Territorians and Darwinites about whether Darwin should submit an NRL & AFL team into the league? I am a big supporter of the North Queensland Cowboys, since Townsville & Cairns are our nearest neighbours and i generally support Adelaide crows in the AFL. I know that Darwin is an AFL & bit of NRL crazed city. So come on Territorians and Darwinites, should we have our own teams in the national comp? I cant believe that Townsville& Cairns have an NRL team in the Comp and both cities have basketball teams in the NBL. Whats wrong with Darwin? Both Townsville and Cairns are relatively same size as Darwin (or bigger, i dont know) and they've managed to get a team in the NRL & NBL and probably the AFL (soon) cos i know Cairns is pretty big on AFL just like Darwin

September 29th, 2004, 07:22 AM	#18
jacobsian Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Queanbeyan Posts: 724 Likes (Received): 0	I think it would be best that you just continue supporting the Crows

September 29th, 2004, 07:28 AM	#19
roberta Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	i'll keep supporting them in meantime. But would like to barrack behind my own city (hopefully soon)

September 29th, 2004, 10:22 AM	#20
kota16 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Adelaide Posts: 576 Likes (Received): 0	What name would you give to your Darwin team? Would it be the Darwin Daredevils? __________________ kota16 Australia

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