UEFA EURO 2024 bids

[Superpippo12]

Originally Posted by JimB

I wouldn't have said that a Scandinavian Euros would be especially compact.From Trondheim in the north to Odense in the south and from Bergen in the west to Stockholm in the east, the area covered would be nearly twice the size of Germany, four times the size of England and getting on for ten times the size of Holland and Belgium combined!

For Trondheim and Bergen, flight should be the preferred way to travel with Oslo as the HUB. From Oslo their are 151 flights pr. week to Bergen and Trondheim each. The tickest costs about 50 € so it is a good solution and cheap. Oslo is a HUB with 157 internationl destinations. Stockholm and Copenhagen are wll integrated with Oslo airport which will work as a HUB for transfer to Bergen and Trondheim.

Furthermore, two co hosts is one thing - but three co hosts is getting a bit much, IMO.

I think a three nation bid is needed to host the euros for scandinavia. You must remember that it will be 6 groups with a total of 24 teams from 2016. Sweden and Denmark almots always qualify and with 24 teams Norway will be a team that almost always qualifies to. So the quality of the tournament will not be lower with this three teams hosting.

Switzerland-Austria are all poorer teams than the scandinavians.
Poland-Ukraine are both poorer teams then the Scandinavians.

Also, what about poor, old Finland?! Aren't they part of Scandinavia - even if their language shares nothing in common with the others?

Finland aren’t scandinavian, they’re nordic but not scandinavian. I think a finnish involvment will make transportation harder because of ferries and distances. They don’t have the same tradition for football as the three scandinavian brothers.

If Finland wants to host they should go together with the baltic states, Estonia,Lithuania,Latvia etc. It will be much more compact.

[dj4life]

The bigger, the better! If three countries cannot host the event, why can't one of them do so? I bet for Sweden in this case.
Also, let's just not forget that an Ice hockey World championship was hosted in both Helsinki and Stockholm which are connected only by a ferry line. Travelling by a ferry is quite fun here - you can relax, have fun on the boat during the night and begin a new day in another city.

[pramzan]

Originally Posted by Superpippo12

Their is no need for four each, ten stadiums is enough. Four in Sweden, three in DK and Norway each.
My suggestion
UEFA demands:
2. 50.0000+(Oslo and Stockholm)
4. 40.000+(Gothenburg,Copenhagen1,Copenhagen2,Malmø)
4. 30.000+(Århus,Trondheim,Bergen and Stockholm2)

Sweden already have three stadiums ready.

Stockholm:Friends arena (50.000 opens in 2012)
Stockholm: Stockholmsarenan(30.000 opens in 2013)
Gothenburg: Nya Ullevi(43.000) needs some renovation?
Malmø can be expandede from 24.000 to 40.000 by 2024

Denmark: (One stadium ready) (2 expansions needed)

Copenhagen:Parken stadium 42.000 (ready)
Copenhagen:Brøndby stadium must be expanded to 40.000
Århus:Nrgi park must be expanded to 30.000

Norway: (0 stadiums ready), 1 new to build, 2 expansions.
Oslo: (Plans to build 50.000 national arena will be realized, maybe 2024?)
Trondheim: ( Lerkendal expanded from 22k to 30k)
Bergen: (Brann stadion expanded from 17k to 30k)

1 new 50k national arena in Oslo to be built by 2024.
4 stadiums ready (Stockholm,Stockholm2,Copenhagen,Gothenburg)
5 expansions (Malmø,Trondheim,Bergen,Århus,Copenhagen2)

I'm sure you're right. I just like the simplicity and logic of 2 stadiums per group.

[Denjiro]

I have a good idea!
A bid of 4 countries just like the AFC Asian Cup in 2007 when Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia hosted it.
My opinion:
* Netherlands
* Germany
* Denmark
* Sweden

[GEwinnen]

Originally Posted by Denjiro

I have a good idea!
A bid of 4 countries just like the AFC Asian Cup in 2007 when Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia hosted it.
My opinion:
* Netherlands
* Germany
* Denmark
* Sweden

Germany does not need co-hosts! Following stadiums are eady for a EURO:

Berlin - 74,000
Munich - 66,000
Dortmund - 65,000
Stuttgart - 54,000
Gelsenkirchen - 54,000
Hamburg - 52,000
Düsseldorf - 52,000
Frankfurt - 48,000
Köln - 45,000
Hannover - 44,000
Leipzig - 44,000
Bremen - 40,000

(plus some stadiums 30,000 +)

I doubt UEFA will allow bids of 4 nations!

[Denjiro]

And the venues in my opinion I would bid are:
Netherlands
* Rotterdam - (will become home of Feyenoord) Nieuwe Kuip (capacity 85,000) - opening ceremonies
* Amsterdam - Amsterdam ArenA (capacity 52,960) expanding to 65,000
* Eindhoven - Philips Stadion (capacity 35,150) expanding to 45,000
* Heerenveen - Abe Lenstra Stadion (capacity 26,100) expanding to 44,000

Germany
* Berlin - Olympiastadion (capacity 74,176)
* Munich - Allianz Arena (capacity 66,016)
* Dortmund - Signal Iduna Park (capacity 65,718)
* Hamburg - AOL Arena (capacity 51,055)

Denmark
* Copenhagen - Parken Stadium (capacity allseater 38,065) expanding to 50,000
* Odense - (fantasy) Nye TRE-FOR Park (capacity 45,000)
* Aarhus - NRGiPark (capacity 20,032) expanding to 40,000
* Aalborg - Nordjyske Arena (capacity 21,198) expanding to 40,000

Sweden
* Stockholm - Friends Arena (capacity 50,000) - closing ceremonies
* Gothenburg - Ullevi (capacity 43,000)
* Malmö - Swedbank Stadion (capacity 21,000) expanding to 40,000
* Norrköping - Idrottsparken (capacity 16,700) expanding to 40,000

[Denjiro]

Originally Posted by GEwinnen

Germany does not need co-hosts! Following stadiums are eady for a EURO:

Berlin - 74,000
Munich - 66,000
Dortmund - 65,000
Stuttgart - 54,000
Gelsenkirchen - 54,000
Hamburg - 52,000
Düsseldorf - 52,000
Frankfurt - 48,000
Köln - 45,000
Hannover - 44,000
Leipzig - 44,000
Bremen - 40,000

(plus some stadiums 30,000 +)

I doubt UEFA will allow bids of 4 nations!

Of course I know Germany doesn't need a co-host, but this co-host of 4 nations is just like a celebration of UEFA.
And with 16 venues in 4 countries the UEFA Euro 2024 will be able for 32 qualified countries: 8 groups. Than also countries like Belgium, Kazakhstan, Scotland, Hungary and so on... can participate.

[Denjiro]

Originally Posted by GEwinnen

Germany does not need co-hosts! Following stadiums are eady for a EURO:

Berlin - 74,000
Munich - 66,000
Dortmund - 65,000
Stuttgart - 54,000
Gelsenkirchen - 54,000
Hamburg - 52,000
Düsseldorf - 52,000
Frankfurt - 48,000
Köln - 45,000
Hannover - 44,000
Leipzig - 44,000
Bremen - 40,000

(plus some stadiums 30,000 +)

I doubt UEFA will allow bids of 4 nations!

Of course I know Germany doesn't need a co-host, but this co-host of 4 nations is just like a celebration of UEFA.
And with 16 venues in 4 countries the UEFA Euro 2024 will be able for 32 qualified countries, also including countries which hardly ever qualify for the UEFA Euro like Kazakhstan, Belgium and Hungary.

[GunnerJacket]

Originally Posted by Superpippo12

Finland aren’t scandinavian, they’re nordic but not scandinavian.

It would help to clarify this perception if Finnish cultural and tourism associations would stop enabling the idea. Here in Georgia (USA) I've been to several Scandanavian festivals due my in-laws ancestory. Finland and Iceland have displays and events right on par with those for Sweden, Norway and Denmark. Have seen the same in travel shows on TV and tourism guides. I realize the Finns can't necessarily control all this, but it's a tertiary way they're perpetuating the misconception.

Then again, given how Scandanavia is a more attractive tourist destination compared to the Baltic states, it may actually be a purposeful ploy!

[GEwinnen]

Originally Posted by Denjiro

Of course I know Germany doesn't need a co-host, but this co-host of 4 nations is just like a celebration of UEFA.
And with 16 venues in 4 countries the UEFA Euro 2024 will be able for 32 qualified countries, also including countries which hardly ever qualify for the UEFA Euro like Kazakhstan, Belgium and Hungary.

A Euro with 32 teams? This would be a Euro of a very, very low level with many boring games! (Kazakhstan's world ranking is 141!!!)
The 16-teams-Euro like England, NL/Belgium, Portugal, Austria/Switzerland and Poland/Ukraine guarantees a decent level, even better than the World Cup!

[Kevlargeist]

Originally Posted by GunnerJacket

It would help to clarify this perception if Finnish cultural and tourism associations would stop enabling the idea. Here in Georgia (USA) I've been to several Scandanavian festivals due my in-laws ancestory. Finland and Iceland have displays and events right on par with those for Sweden, Norway and Denmark. Have seen the same in travel shows on TV and tourism guides. I realize the Finns can't necessarily control all this, but it's a tertiary way they're perpetuating the misconception.

Then again, given how Scandanavia is a more attractive tourist destination compared to the Baltic states, it may actually be a purposeful ploy!

Well in the American English usage Scandinavia more often than not equals the Nordic countries, even if it would be geographically and historically inaccurate.

[Aka]

Greenland and Faroe Islands.

[Laurence2011]

Originally Posted by Aka

Greenland and Faroe Islands.

Greenland is not in UEFA

[JimB]

I think that Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Malta and the Vatican City should combine to host Euro 2024.

Would get my vote.

[Laurence2011]

does vatican city even have a team?

[Aka]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

Greenland is not in UEFA

2024...

[Marbur66]

Originally Posted by Kevlargeist

Well in the American English usage Scandinavia more often than not equals the Nordic countries, even if it would be geographically and historically inaccurate.

Yeah, why bother with the facts.

[Aka]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

does vatican city even have a team?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican..._football_team

[Superpippo12]

Originally Posted by Denjiro

I have a good idea!
A bid of 4 countries just like the AFC Asian Cup in 2007 when Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia hosted it.
My opinion:
* Netherlands
* Germany
* Denmark
* Sweden

I hope UEFA can try to spread the championships to countries that never hosted or haven’t hosted for a while the same way FIFA does. It is not many years since Holland hosted it and Germany hosted the world cup a few a years ago. Germany will also go alone and Netherlands should join Belgium.

Poland/Ukraine was an excellent choiche and I hope to see it in Turkey in 2020. France 2016 was probobaly a right choiche since only they were able to host it among the candidates.For 2024 I hope UEFA looks to countries that never hosted or havent hosted a championship in a while.

For 2024, then I see some good candidates:

i)Scandinavia(Norway,Sweden and Denmark),Norway and sweden had a bid in 2016, if they can get DENMARK to join the bid will be strong
ii)Scotland,Ireland and Wales.A lot of great stadiums already, though very centralized with to many stadiums in Dublin and Glasgow
iii)Italy (Havent hosted since 90, if a big nation should then Italy)Italy needs to redevelop stadiums, they should host soon
iiii)Romania,Bulgaria,HungaryGood tendencies the last years, good devlopment. keep up the good work
v)Spain (maybe they’ll go for world cup 2026? or olympics 2024?)2028 maybe if you dont get the WC or olympics
vi)Balkan (Serbia,Croatia,Bosnia)30 years since the war, could be good for relations between those three
vii) Czech republic and SlovakiaA good candidate, needs more stadiums

[JimB]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

does vatican city even have a team?

Yep.

The Pope plays in goal.

Never yet guessed wrong in a penalty shoot out.

You'd think he had divine help or something.