UEFA EURO 2024 bids

[Laurence2011]

Originally Posted by Aka

2024...

fair enough... by then gibraltar could also very well be in UEFA, I wonder if they'll bid?

[italiano_pellicano]

probably italy

[italiano_pellicano]

yes

Originally Posted by MS20

2024 in Italy. 2020 in Turkey.

[Enio125]

Italy, England, France, Germany, or Spain should host it every year.

[kalaha]

Big Scandinavian news: the Swedish FA wants according to Swedish radio P4 Väst the Euro 2024 together with a bordering country!

Article in Swedish: http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel...rtikel=5169284
Article in Danish: http://onside.dk/nyheder/slutrunder-...danmark-i-2024

[Laurence2011]

woah sounds good, what country are they planning to bid with does anyone know?

[PrevaricationComplex]

I support this development.

What are the stadiums?

[kalaha]

Originally Posted by Laurence2011

woah sounds good, what country are they planning to bid with does anyone know?

Originally Posted by PrevaricationComplex

I support this development.

What are the stadiums?

Well, the articles just state, that they will investigate the possibilities for hosting the tournament, nothing specific. I guess they will ask both Denmark, Norway and Finland if they are so eager to get it, but in my ears it sounds like they want a two-country bid.

[Superpippo12]

Originally Posted by kalaha

Well, the articles just state, that they will investigate the possibilities for hosting the tournament, nothing specific. I guess they will ask both Denmark, Norway and Finland if they are so eager to get it, but in my ears it sounds like they want a two-country bid.

Norway-Sweden couldn’t do it alone in 2016 and had to withdraw the bid. The stadiums were to big to be reused. I don’t think a two country bid is realistic, because it will be to many big stadiums and no investors or government will put up the finances.A three country bid sound very realistic and the stadiums can be reused and it will be easy to finance it.
5 stadiums bigger than 30k in Denmark is not realistic, not in Norway and Finland either.Say three countries and three stadiums each over 30k, then we can start talking.

[PrevaricationComplex]

Originally Posted by kalaha

Well, the articles just state, that they will investigate the possibilities for hosting the tournament, nothing specific. I guess they will ask both Denmark, Norway and Finland if they are so eager to get it, but in my ears it sounds like they want a two-country bid.

I didn't expect there to be plans to build stadiums already or anything like that, what I meant was what do they have? I don't know much about them but I'd imagine they'd be quite light in infrastructure.

[Bulgariologist]

As EURO 2016 is to be in France and EURO 2020 will most probably be given to Turkey (which I support), I think EURO 2024 should be another one with multiple hosts. Here are the following available bids of which most countries haven't been hosts of an EURO:

1)Scotland-Wales-Ireland(-Northern Ireland if necessary), or the Celtic bid;
2)Norway-Denmark-Sweden (maybe only Norway and Denmark?), or the Nordic bid.
3)Lithuania-Latvia-Estonia/any combination of these, Belarus and Finland, or the Baltic bid.
4)Serbia-Croatia-Bosnia and Herzegovina, or the bid of the Western Balkans.
5)Albania-Macedonia-Kosovo-Montenegro (but first Kosovo should enter FIFA and UEFA ), or the bid of the Little Balkans.
6)Georgia-Azerbaijan (adding Armenia would be even better but strain between it and Azerbaijan should first calm), or the bid of the Caucasus.
7)Czech Republic-Slovakia (I hope they can manage building enough stadiums if they decide to go for it), or, hmmm, the Czechoslovak bid.
8)and finally - my favourite bid: Hungary-Romania-Bulgaria, or... let's say the bid of the Eastern Balkans! (I am Bulgarian. ) This bid is a bit questionable for EURO 2024, especially if Turkey gets 2020, because the two competitions would be very close to each other and most people prefer varied places. I myself think we won't be ready for 2024 and 2028 would be a better aim.

It seems that in Western Europe, apart from the titans, the smaller countries which have already hosted (2000, 2004, 2008), and the dwarf states which will hardly host whenever, the Celtic and Nordic bids are the only ones which have countries that never hosted an EURO. And it is easier to make a bid in the West as borders between the big and the small are clear. In the East, on the other hand... we have an absolute giant called Russia which is now rather busy with World Cup 2018, some "big" countries like Poland and Ukraine which still can't host alone, some "middle and small" like Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, Czech Republic, etc. which have to group in threes or so, and some "very small" like the Little Balkans which have to group in a four. And no dwarf states, so every single country has some chances to host. With EURO 2012, Eastern Europe calls for its place in football and all kinds of crazy bids are to be made from now on.

For the ones of you who claim that only the titans should host, what would you say if UEFA splits into two? The EuroBigs and the EuroSmalls, for example? England, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, Portugal and whoever is of "the betters" can play alone, untroubled and at the best venues possible, while the others (particularly Eastern European teams) will be happy to prove their abilities in places not so well developed in terms of football infrastructure but open to wide development. Both confederations' competitions would be interesting because there would not be leaders and every team can go up. I know it doesn't sound realistic but teams like Bulgaria are not delighted being one of the worst in UEFA and plans for a split might turn up soon. You decide what you prefer. To compete with only strong teams or to come to terms with the fact that there is Eastern Europe, that there are teams who are weak and strive for greater success.

International football has turned into a boring event where winners are largely known and every step out of the routine is considered a shock. It's time to change that and develop not only infrastructure but also spirit and professionalism in weaker teams. They need that.

What would you say about my suggestions of bids?

[eomer]

After France 2016 and probabily Turkey 2020, maybe Spain or Italy.

[Fizmo1337]

Never heard of using paragraphs?

[Bulgariologist]

Aah, sorry... is this better?

[Fizmo1337]

very good

[anarh]

OK, Turkey should be ready for 2020 even. 2024.? Well, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina & Serbia should be fair. We simply NEED IT!!!

[Leedsrule]

I know this thread is on Euro 2024, but I thought Id make the situation for the 2020 euro's clear.

Turkey have declared intrest in holding Euro 2020, along with the Celtic nations (Scotland, Ireland, Wales) and Azerbaijan–Georgia.



Turkey are also applying to hold the Olympics in the same year in Istanbul. Turkey failed in a joint bid with Greece for Euro 2008 and was unsuccessful as the sole bidder in the 2 subsequent tournaments: Euro 2012 and Euro 2016. In its bid to host the 2016 tournament, Turkey missed out to France by a single vote. Turkey's bid may be prejudiced by Istanbul's bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics. UEFA and the IOC are not keen on having two major sporting events in the same country in the same year. The Turkish goverment favours the Olympic bid over the Euro's bid.

In terms of stadia, Turkey currently have 8 stadia which hold over the 30,000 minimum. However, out of these a few may not be suitable.

Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi
City: Istanbul
Capacity: 76,090
Built: 2001
Has held the Champions league final a few years ago, it was granted the "5-star sports complex" title by the UEFA in 2004, enabling it to host the finals of UEFA events. If I remember correctly, if the Olympic bid is succesful they will improve the stadium by roofing the entire thing and possibly incresing the capacity. Would almost certanly hold the Euro's final if hey won the bid.



Türk Telekom Arena
City: Istanbul
Capacity: 52,647
Built: 2011
One of the newest stadiums in Turkey. However, I think i read somewhere that the C-values (A value devised from the quality of the sightlines relitive to the height of the person in the row infront) are not good enough to hold matches in the Euro's. if I am incorrect, then this will certainly be used.



Fenerbahçe Sükrü Saracoglu Stadi
City: Istanbul
Capacity: 50,500
Built: 2005
The third biggest stadium in Istanbul. I don't think Uefa like any city to have more than 2 of the stadia in it, but as it is such a good stadium im sure they would make an exeption rather than make them leave it out. Would be a waste if they don't use it.



Kadir Has Stadi
City: Ankara
Capacity: 32,864
Built: 2009
I don't know much about this stadium, but I assume it will be used as it is big enough and modern enough.



GAP Stadyumu
City: Sanliurfa
Capacity: 30,000
Built: 2008
Not sure how likely this is to be used but if it is im sure it will be the most easterly stadium in the competition.

There are also 4 stadia which will meet the requirements to hold matches at the Europian Championships currently in development. These are:

Timsah Arena
City: Bursa
Capacity: 45,000



Besiktas Inönü Stadi
City: Istanbul
Capacity: 42,000
The home of Besiktas JK currently being renovated. Another stadium in Istanbul so possibly will not be used.



Şehir Stadi
City: Konya
Capacity: 38-42,000
Several websites give different figures to the capacity of this stadium in Konya, will definately be between 38 and 42k.



Akyazi Stadi
City: Trabzon
Capacity: 42,000
As far as I know this stadium is currently under construction.



http://stadiumdb.com/designs/tur





On 14 May 2012, a day prior to the initial proposed deadline for submissions and with only the Turkish bid having been put forward, Scottish Football Association Chief Executive Stewart Regan confirmed that the SFA and the Football Association of Wales were discussing a late joint bid to host the tournament. A day after we were told that the Scottish and Welsh FA's had teamed up with the Football Association of Ireland were interested in hosting the tournament together.

Scotland will hold the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow in 2014 and and is also bidding to host the 2018 Summer Youth Olympics.

There are currently 7 stadia with a seated capacity of over 30,000 in the 3 nations.

Murrayfield
City: Edinburgh
Capacity: 67,500
Built: 1925
Home of the Scottish national rugby team, this venue could easily be converted for football. This is currently the largest stadium in Scotland.



Celtic Park
City: Glasgow
Capacity: 60,506
Built: 1892
The second largest stadium in Scotland and home of Celtic, the biggest team in Scotland. Both Ibrox and Hamden park have a 5 star UEFA rating, however, this does not. This may be because of the insufficiant facilities and restricted views in many areas of the ground. Because of this, if glasgow were only allowed to use 2 stadia they may not pick this one.



Hampden Park
City: Glasgow
Capacity: 50,670
Built: 1903
Will be used as the main stadium in the 2014 commonwealth games, however the running track currently round the football pitch is too short so they are building the running track for the games a couple of feet above the normal playing surface on a temporary platform. Because of this useless running track around the football pitch, it would make sense to remove it and lower the playing surface incresing the capacity in a way similar to the Ethihad stadium in Manchester after the 2002 commonweath games. Potentialy, this stadiums capacity could be incresed to 70k plus.



Ibrox stadium
City: Glasgow
Capacity: 51,080
Built: 1899
The second largest stadium in Glasgow. The city may face the same problem as Istanbul with three stadiums in one city, they may have to choose between them. Talks have taken place in the past regaring the extending of Ibrox but as the main stand is a listed building, this will have to stay how it is. Due to the clubs current financial predicament, they are not in a situation where extending Ibrox would be viable.



Millennium Stadium
City: Cardiff
Capacity: 74,500
Built: 1999
Wales may only hold one group in the group stages, but the Millennium stadium is a good contender to hold the final. It was built in 1999 and holds nearly 75k, expansion to at least 80k has also been discussed.



Liberty Stadium
City: Swansea
Capacity: 20,532
Built: 2005
Home of Swansea city, the Liberty Stadium is currently too small to hold Europian Championship games but there is a good chance it will be upgraded to the required 30,000 if they win the bid.



Cardiff City Stadium
City: Cardiff
Capacity: 26,830
Built: 2009
A stadium that was built with future expansion considered, could easily be extended to 30,000 but as it is in the same city as the Millennium stadium, it is more likely to be a reserve for the competition.



Aviva Stadium
City: Dublin
Capacity: 50,000
Built: 2010
The Ireland national Football and Rugby Stadium, built in 2010 and holding 50k. Would definately be used in the competition if they win the bid.



Croke Park
City: Dublin
Capacity: 82,300 (69,500 seated)
Built: 1913
The national stadium of Ireland, used for Gaelic games such as Hurling and Gaelic Football but has been used for Association Football before so it will probably be used if they win the bid. Has a large terrace at one end which would either need to be converted, temporarily built over or just closed.



Thomond Park
City: Limerick
Capacity: 26,500 (15,100 seated)
Built: 1940
Has 2 new stands at either side, but temporary stands could easily be installed at either end and seats put in the lower tier to bring the capacity temporarily up to 30,000 seats.



New stadiums:

New Aberdeen Stadium
City: Abedeen
Capacity: 22,000
Aberdeen are looking at building a new stadium holding just over 20,000 but if the bid is succesful they could increse it to 30,000 to meet requiremets.

New Dundee Stadium
City: Dundee
Capacity: 30,000
Was once an option to build a stadium for both Dundee teams but is less likely to happen now with strict fan opposition.

Páirc Uí Chaoimh
City: Cork
Capacity: 45,000
A new stadium in Cork, the second biggest city in Ireland which will hold somewhere between 30 and 45k depending on if they win the bid. I can't find any pictures of this proposal.



Azerbaijan–Georgia were the third party to declare interest in holding the competition. Ultimately, the Baku bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics by the Azerbaijani capital may put this bid in jeopardy. On 8 March 2012, the Olympics bid chief Konul Nurullayeva said that the nations' focus was on the Olympics.

There are only a couple stadiums currently ready to hold the competition and some stadiums are being built.

Boris Paichadze Stadium
City: Tbilisi
Capacity: 55,000
Built: 1976
The biggest stadium in Georgia and currently the only large enough to hold games in the tournament.



Mikheil Meshki Stadium
City: Tbilisi
Capacity: 27,300
Built: 2001
Would not take a huge amount of work to bring it up to the required standard.



Tofiq Bakhramov Stadium
City: Baku
Capacity: 31,200
Built: 1952



New Stadiums:

Baku Olympic Stadium
City: Baku
Capacity: 65,000
Supporting the cities Olympic bid the same year, this stadium would hold the final of the Euros if they won the bidding.



There is a good chance they will not chose to bid in the end, personally I do not see they are ready and too many new stadiums would need to be built.



Six potential bids including nine National Federations that had previously stated their interest in hosting Euro 2020 have withdrawn or failed to follow up their interest since the start of the bidding process.

• Belgium
• Bosnia and Herzegovina–Croatia–Serbia
• Bulgaria–Romania or Hungary-Romania
• Germany
• Netherlands

These nations can still bid later.


Proposal for a Europe-wide Euro 2020:

On 30 June 2012, at a press conference a day before the UEFA Euro 2012 Final, UEFA President Michel Platini suggested that instead of having one host country (or joint hosting by multiple countries), Euro 2020 may be spread over "12 or 13 cities" across the continent. Platini confirmed that the final decision would be taken in January or February 2013.

If this is chosen to happen, the FA have expressed strong intrest in Wembley holding both semi's and the final.

This december we will find out the decision about wether Euro 2020 should be spread across the European continent. UEFA will also publish the detailed bidding criteria.

There isn't too much information at this time, but I think if they decide to make Euro 2020 Europe-wide they will ask for cities, teams or countries to bid with their stadia then 10 or 12, only one per country, are picked. The tournament would then be played over a longer period of time any you are told where your game will be played anywhere in Europe. There are several prolems with this in my opinion.

• Smaller countries may not be able to afford the travel fee's.
• No particular country would benifit from the incresed tourism as a host or co-host.
• The counties with the stadiums would almost be randomly placed around Europe, with the bigger countries holding it in 2020 it may end up being 12 very small countries holding it a few years after.
• If you do it once, they kind of have to continuously do it from now on.
• More inconvinient for travelling fans.
• Arguments may come up over holding your countries games in your country, and with no clear hosts if Spain for example were to play England, both with a stadium in the tournament, where would you play it to void large travelling distances or bias towards the home team.

I like the current system of one or two or even three countries holding the entire tournament and I hope they keep it that way. Personally i think Turkey will win their Olympic bid, so will withdraw their Euro's bid, and the Celts will win it and hold it in 2020. With all the English fans I cant see any of the stadiums going empty, and I think UEFA will warm to the bid as a safe option as mot of the stadiums are built already. Azerbaijan or Georgia may hold it in the future but not for another couple of decades yet. It will be interesting to see if anyone else declares intrest or bids in the coming months.

All pictures were take from Worldstadiums.com and Stadiumdb.com

[Laurence2011]

I personaly think scotland-ireland-wales would be the best choice for 2020, that's if turkey really want to get the olympics. I'd love it if Germany hosted in 2024... I was there in 2006 and they hosted an amazing tournament

[pramzan]

That's more probably more relevant to this thread.

[Gadiri]

Originally Posted by Leedsrule

I know this thread is on Euro 2024, but I thought Id make the situation for the 2020 euro's clear.

Turkey have declared intrest in holding Euro 2020, along with the Celtic nations (Scotland, Ireland, Wales) and Azerbaijan–Georgia.



Turkey are also applying to hold the Olympics in the same year in Istanbul. Turkey failed in a joint bid with Greece for Euro 2008 and was unsuccessful as the sole bidder in the 2 subsequent tournaments: Euro 2012 and Euro 2016. In its bid to host the 2016 tournament, Turkey missed out to France by a single vote. Turkey's bid may be prejudiced by Istanbul's bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics. UEFA and the IOC are not keen on having two major sporting events in the same country in the same year. The Turkish goverment favours the Olympic bid over the Euro's bid.

In terms of stadia, Turkey currently have 8 stadia which hold over the 30,000 minimum. However, out of these a few may not be suitable.

Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi
City: Istanbul
Capacity: 76,090
Built: 2001
Has held the Champions league final a few years ago, it was granted the "5-star sports complex" title by the UEFA in 2004, enabling it to host the finals of UEFA events. If I remember correctly, if the Olympic bid is succesful they will improve the stadium by roofing the entire thing and possibly incresing the capacity. Would almost certanly hold the Euro's final if hey won the bid.



Türk Telekom Arena
City: Istanbul
Capacity: 52,647
Built: 2011
One of the newest stadiums in Turkey. However, I think i read somewhere that the C-values (A value devised from the quality of the sightlines relitive to the height of the person in the row infront) are not good enough to hold matches in the Euro's. if I am incorrect, then this will certainly be used.



Fenerbahçe Sükrü Saracoglu Stadi
City: Istanbul
Capacity: 50,500
Built: 2005
The third biggest stadium in Istanbul. I don't think Uefa like any city to have more than 2 of the stadia in it, but as it is such a good stadium im sure they would make an exeption rather than make them leave it out. Would be a waste if they don't use it.




Besiktas Inönü Stadi
City: Istanbul
Capacity: 42,000
The home of Besiktas JK currently being renovated. Another stadium in Istanbul so possibly will not be used.

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Celtic Park
City: Glasgow
Capacity: 60,506
Built: 1892
The second largest stadium in Scotland and home of Celtic, the biggest team in Scotland. Both Ibrox and Hamden park have a 5 star UEFA rating, however, this does not. This may be because of the insufficiant facilities and restricted views in many areas of the ground. Because of this, if glasgow were only allowed to use 2 stadia they may not pick this one.



Hampden Park
City: Glasgow
Capacity: 50,670
Built: 1903
Will be used as the main stadium in the 2014 commonwealth games, however the running track currently round the football pitch is too short so they are building the running track for the games a couple of feet above the normal playing surface on a temporary platform. Because of this useless running track around the football pitch, it would make sense to remove it and lower the playing surface incresing the capacity in a way similar to the Ethihad stadium in Manchester after the 2002 commonweath games. Potentialy, this stadiums capacity could be incresed to 70k plus.



Ibrox stadium
City: Glasgow
Capacity: 51,080
Built: 1899
The second largest stadium in Glasgow. The city may face the same problem as Istanbul with three stadiums in one city, they may have to choose between them. Talks have taken place in the past regaring the extending of Ibrox but as the main stand is a listed building, this will have to stay how it is. Due to the clubs current financial predicament, they are not in a situation where extending Ibrox would be viable.

Sercan.de told us during UEFA 2016 bids, that according to UEFA, a city can't host more than 2 stadiums.