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Old May 17th, 2011, 09:07 PM   #21
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That's great - hope it won't be as big a failure as "The World" in Dubai
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Old June 30th, 2011, 02:02 PM   #22
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Old June 30th, 2011, 03:02 PM   #23
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Old June 30th, 2011, 04:09 PM   #24
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Well, of course the scale is very much smaller than Dubai, but for a city of Trondheim's size it's an exciting project and not bad at all. I'd still like to see a higher density though, than the proposed 850 apartments and 100,000 m2 commerce. But the 800 boat places will be really welcome!
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Old June 30th, 2011, 04:15 PM   #25
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Is there any reason to why they build a artificial island? Surely Trondheim got enough of coastlines and land elsewhere to build on to not need reclaimed land too?
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Old June 30th, 2011, 04:20 PM   #26
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I think this is a great idea for other Norwegian cities, too. Comparing it to the Dubai palms is a bit voer the top, though.
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Old June 30th, 2011, 04:42 PM   #27
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Is there any reason to why they build a artificial island? Surely Trondheim got enough of coastlines and land elsewhere to build on to not need reclaimed land too?
Two reasons. First one is the synergy between the Stindheim-tunnel currently U/C where they get the stone masses from. I believe that is in the order of 800.000 m3. The other one is that a development of the existing coastline probably very quickly would come into conflict with other interests, such as nature protection etc. Just look at all the protests around the various suggestions for a new logistic hub (port)

Another way to see it, is that by doing it this way you create artificial coast length and get the same development area much more compact than if you had spread it thinly along the existing coastline.
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Old July 1st, 2011, 02:01 AM   #28
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The hole area between the road and the coastline is also filled up from the 60's and further on.
Brattøra is another location in Trondheim wich is artifically made.
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Old July 7th, 2011, 07:50 PM   #29
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Construction update from Grilstad Marina N2, the first building to be built at Grilstad Marina. I haven't covered it much earlier in this thread so here is some short
facts. N2 is a 9000m2 large office building which Brønnteknologiutvikling AS will occupy (BTU has close ties to Teeness which occupy the building across the
street). N2 should be completed by the end of the summer. Upon completion they will start on the next building, on site N1. Another 9000m2 large office and
retail building will be built there. N1 will be completed in spring 2011.






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Old July 7th, 2011, 08:28 PM   #30
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It delights me to see that BTU (Brønnteknologiutvikling) is growing, and apparently does their business well enough to expand into this building. They are a small vendor company for the oil business (well plugs are one of the main products). And since I am working in the oil industry myself, it's cool to see local companies playing a larger role.

By the way, they are currently located at Sluppen, and they also have workshop facilities there, so i presume this new building will have that too.
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Old January 1st, 2012, 04:54 PM   #31
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La til nye tegninger av byggetrinn 2 (B4) i første posten og får bare lyst til å repitere meg selv: Grilstadfjæra = tragiske greier...

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Old January 1st, 2012, 05:04 PM   #32
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It delights me to see that BTU (Brønnteknologiutvikling) is growing, and apparently does their business well enough to expand into this building. They are a small vendor company for the oil business (well plugs are one of the main products). And since I am working in the oil industry myself, it's cool to see local companies playing a larger role.

By the way, they are currently located at Sluppen, and they also have workshop facilities there, so i presume this new building will have that too.
Jobbet selv i dreiemaskin i noen år å produserte en god del BTU-plugger/deler og Teeness-produkter (som er naboen over gata til det nye BTU bygget) så må si meg enig med deg der.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 07:15 PM   #33
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Felt N5 vil bestå av 4 byggetrinn. Området er regulert for 42.000 m². BRA Her er noen illustrasjoner av N5.3 (byggetrinn 1?).



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Old January 8th, 2012, 10:58 PM   #34
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Just looking at some numbers here. The density for the whole Grilstad Marina project is not much to brag about

When subtracting the business and water areas, this is the housing density compared to Tjuvholmen in Oslo:
Grilstad: 850 apartments on 316 daa (316 000 m2). 2,7 apartments/daa.
Tjuvholmen: 950 apartments on 51 daa (51 000 m2). 18,6 apartments/daa.

Just cool to compare stuff
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Old January 8th, 2012, 11:06 PM   #35
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Cool indeed. Should we make a density thread?
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Old January 8th, 2012, 11:09 PM   #36
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I suspect that Kværnerbyen or Sørenga have even higher density of apartments (less offices in those developments).
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Old January 8th, 2012, 11:25 PM   #37
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Let's see...

Sørenga: 850 apartments on 35,5 daa. 23,9 apartments/daa.

You got it right about Sørenga, just think of what could have been.

Don't have all the data for Kværner yet...
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Old January 9th, 2012, 04:09 PM   #38
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From what i measure on the map, the whole of Sørenga is ca. 94 daa. Does that mean that the 35.5 daa you talk about have subtracted area occupied by non-housing buildings?
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Old January 9th, 2012, 04:46 PM   #39
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hmm, I just took the number from the whole plot that was for sale in 2007. Link here.

It's anyway only the outer part that include the Sørenga project with the 850 apartments. Not all the way in to Bispevika.

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Old January 26th, 2012, 09:48 AM   #40
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Does not make much sense to compare Grilstadfjæra with those developments in Oslo. Grilstad is almost at the perimeter of Trondheim, and overall Trondheim has a lower density and more room to grow. Rather than building dense at the perimeter they should densify closer to the city center, which would reduce the amount of transport needed. Of course, building dense at the perimeter might have other benefits, like leaving more areas green, but personally I would never live in a high density development (again).
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