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Old January 15th, 2012, 04:18 AM   #101
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As much as I love our country, I don't think any of our cities are deserving at all. But since this is a voting system, I won't be surprised if we place one
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Old January 15th, 2012, 04:37 AM   #102
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New 7 Wonders: Cities

This thread is about new wonders.

And this thread is about cities

So there is nothing saying that beauty should be the criterion.

Here's my list of the "New 7 Wonders Cities"; recent urban wonders:

1. Guangzhou - Shenzhen: The world's most populous urban area ('city') and the 21st Century's fastest growing major city

2. Tokyo: The only dense mass of humanity of this enormous magnitude that has survived so many natural calamities and still remains among the world's most prosperous cities and the world's second-most-populous.

3. New York City: The world's first mega-city (over 10 million population), this is arguably the world's greatest (architectural magnitude and diversity of urban trends) and most sprawling urban area in the world.

4. Sao Paulo: Its extended urban area, containing the world's second-largest (after Guangzhou - Shenzhen) collection of high-rises, is one of the world's biggest and most-populous mega-urban wonders.

5. Delhi: The planet's oldest continuously inhabited national capital city (since the second millenium BC) and one of the world's most-populous urban areas today.

6. Jakarta: The world's third-most-populous urban area, with the planet's second-highest urban population growth in the past decade.

7. Shanghai: The home of the world's biggest skyscraper boom, in terms of building magnitude and futuristic architecture.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 12:25 AM   #103
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I agree with Royal Rose. Paris is nice, but I wasn't left wanting more, and it didn't really live up to my expectations (which weren't that high to begin with). London, New York, it was love at first sight and remains that way to this day. That said, Paris is still a beautiful city, just not the kind of beautiful I like.
Thank you! Exactly how I feel. I used to think New York City was overrated too! I remember the first 5 times I went there, it didn't really do much for me. Then my mother moved there, and I got to know the city, now I think it's underrated, there's truly so much to see there. When you live in NYC it's like nothing else exists, because NYC is truly it's own world.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 09:12 AM   #104
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Beijing is my choice!

Beijing has 6 world heritages by UNESCO, which city has more???????
The great wall of China
The forbidden city
Archaeological site of Zhoukoudian
Beijing Heaven temple
Beijing Summer palace
Ming &Qing Dynasty Tombs of Beijing

Besides, Beijing has a lot of modern wonders too
The bird nest, CCTV tower, the Grand national theatre etc.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 02:43 PM   #105
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6. Jakarta: The world's third-most-populous urban area, with the planet's second-highest urban population growth in the past decade.
I'm surprised that you put Jakarta on the list, since Jakarta's infrastructure is still far behind.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 03:14 PM   #106
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Rome
Venice
Paris
New York
Instanbul
Hong Kong
London
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Old January 17th, 2012, 07:07 PM   #107
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Ummmmm... New York City not one of the cities on this list? I'm sorry, but if there was a list of one wonder of the world city it would be NYC. NYC is in an area on its own, to say NYC is undeserving of 1 of 7 of the Wonders of the world is heinous.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 07:12 PM   #108
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Ummmmm... New York City not one of the cities on this list? I'm sorry, but if there was a list of one wonder of the world city it would be NYC. NYC is in an area on its own, to say NYC is undeserving of 1 of 7 of the Wonders of the world is heinous.
No, I was talking about the poster who listed cities of the Philippines. I'm not American but a Filipino currently living in the US, my second home Just to clear the misunderstanding
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Old January 17th, 2012, 07:30 PM   #109
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Very difficult...the only 2 cities i am sure i would put in that list would be Istanbul and San Fran.

Then perhaps Vienna, Captwon and a lot of other ones i don't even know ;-)
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Old January 17th, 2012, 07:44 PM   #110
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my 7

1/ Roma - wonder city of eternity
2/ Paris - wonder city of the XIX Century
3/ New York - wonder city of XX Century
4/ Istanbul - mostly because of it's golden age under the name Constantinople
5/ Prague - Wonder city of medieval age.
6/ Venice - wonder city of flooding and what ever like it.
7/ Dubai - wonder city of the XXI Century

note: I feel so bad when most Asian cities just destroy the old and replace them with new stuffs. If they kept the old stuffs intact I would have picked the old Beijing, Wuhan and Kyoto instead
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Old January 17th, 2012, 07:45 PM   #111
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No, I was talking about the poster who listed cities of the Philippines. I'm not American but a Filipino currently living in the US, my second home Just to clear the misunderstanding
OHHHHH! Ok, understand now, I was appalled to hear the NYC didn't deserve a billing haha. Ok, sorry for the misunderstanding!
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Old January 17th, 2012, 08:24 PM   #112
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note: I feel so bad when most Asian cities just destroy the old and replace them with new stuffs. If they kept the old stuffs intact I would have picked the old Beijing, Wuhan and Kyoto instead
Kyoto still a has a lot of the old "stuff", even though much more was destroyed or burned down in the past thousand years. But what is left from earlier periods is beautiful -- in spite of the tourists. Any civilized person who has some appreciation for Japanese arts and letters cannot help but be moved. It's like Cavafy's mythical Alexandria, or Proust's Paris. Just mentioning the names of places and peoples long gone and/or altered would be enough to fill you with wonder.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 10:38 PM   #113
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Kyoto has over 3000 temples for Chrissakes, you couldn't visit them all in a lifetime
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Old January 18th, 2012, 04:51 AM   #114
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list of the PHILIPPINES’ NOMINATED CITIES in the worldwide search for the NEW 7 WONDERS: CITIES!


Baguio (Philippines)
Bacolod City (Philippines)
Cebu City (Philippines)
DAVAO CITY (Philippines)
General Santos (Philippines)
Iloilo City (Philippines)
Legazpi City (Philippines)
Marikina City (Philippines)
Manila (Philippines)
Makati City (Philippines)
Parañaque City (Philippines)
Puerto Princesa (PH)
Quezon City (Philippines)
Tagaytay City (Philippines)
Taguig City (Philippines)
Vigan (Philippines)
Zamboanga City (Philippines)

http://www.new7wonders.com/form/nominate/en
Makati, Marikina, Parañaque, Quezon City and Taguig should be questioned since these cities are under Manila and Manila itself represents these cities.

This is also the same for Kowloon since it is part of HK's SAR.

The fact Beverly Hills, Brooklyn, Long Beach or Shibuya were not listed individually?
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I'm surprised that you put Jakarta on the list, since Jakarta's infrastructure is still far behind.
Same here.
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Same here.
In all fairness, the reason Jakarta is put as a recent urban wonder is because its urban area (Jabodetabek) has witnessed the the planet's second-highest urban population growth in the past 10 years- about 10 million people in 10 years... around a million people each year! It's also the world's third-most-populous urban area today.
That's an urban wonder!

And regarding Jakarta's infrastructure; it has South-East Asia's most extensive road network and most extensive public transit network.
It's compared to Los Angeles in this regard, especially in South-East Asia.
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Trans-Jakarta: One of the world's most extensive BRT systems with exclusive lanes



Jabodetabek arguably has South-East Asia's largest rail-based (KRL) commuter network.

The following thread links to the incredible number of urban projects presently under construction in Jabodetabek urban area:-

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1167025
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In all fairness, the reason Jakarta is put as a recent urban wonder is because its urban area (Jabodetabek) has witnessed the the planet's second-highest urban population growth in the past 10 years- about 10 million people in 10 years... around a million people each year! It's also the world's third-most-populous urban area today.
That's an urban wonder!

And regarding Jakarta's infrastructure; it has South-East Asia's most extensive road network and most extensive public transit network.
It's compared to Los Angeles in this regard, especially in South-East Asia.
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We all have our own choices. One thing I noticed is that, your choices are based on urban area / population. Ironically, you excluded Manila which is one of the largest and densest cities in the world and is still rapidly growing.

But population growth is not an important factor for nomination but also the city's position in a global scale.

This includes, economy, culture, politics, trade, etc. We cannot doubt that Jakarta is one of the major economic centres of South East Asia and is also the political and to some extent, cultural hub of Indonesia.

On the other hand, Shenzhen's urban growth and development is also LARGE. You can compare the city as it is today to how it was back in the 20th century.

But Shenzhen's global position is not as high unlike it's neighbour south of the border.
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We all have our own choices. One thing I noticed is that, your choices are based on urban area / population. Ironically, you excluded Manila which is one of the largest and densest cities in the world and is still rapidly growing.

But population growth is not an important factor for nomination but also the city's position in a global scale.

This includes, economy, culture, politics, trade, etc. We cannot doubt that Jakarta is one of the major economic centres of South East Asia and is also the political and to some extent, cultural hub of Indonesia.

On the other hand, Shenzhen's urban growth and development is also LARGE. You can compare the city as it is today to how it was back in the 20th century.

But Shenzhen's global position is not as high unlike it's neighbour south of the border.
I would place Manila's metropolitan area as the 8th recent urban wonder.Hong Kong was a "recent urban wonder / phenomenon" in the second half of the 20th Century.The Guangzhou - Shenzhen urban area is the 21st Century's "recent urban wonder / phenomenon".However, you're correct; each person has his own perspective of what a recent urban wonder denotes.
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I would place Manila's metropolitan area as the 8th recent urban wonder.Hong Kong was a "recent urban wonder / phenomenon" in the second half of the 20th Century.The Guangzhou - Shenzhen urban area is the 21st Century's "recent urban wonder / phenomenon".However, you're correct; each person has his own perspective of what a recent urban wonder denotes.
It is why I don't really dig this New 7 Wonders since people nominate and most of them nominate for nationalistic purposes if if the place or city they nominate does not deserve a spot compared to other cities that deserve it.
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