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Old May 15th, 2014, 10:13 PM   #21
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I'm mystified by this concept.

For starters, the general thinking on "innovation" districts is that being in the middle of the city is better than being isolated. You run into other people in your field and in other fields, have lots of restaurants and bars to meet in, and so on.

Recruitment is generally much easier when commutes are easy. This looks easy for nearly zero people, and a big pain in the ass for many, since getting there is a sizeable added step from major transit.

Universities live off synergies with other organizations. Many professors and students both work part-time at other companies or organizations, including a lot of spinoffs.

Starchitecture and labs don't tend to mix well. Labs like to be in standardized shapes that allow efficient modules. In their defense, maybe their odd shapes allow standardized lab and office modules, with the crazy shapes being additive rather than reductive.

Of course it's not a very large campus. 2msf is big but not that big.
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Old May 16th, 2014, 03:12 AM   #22
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I like the buildings thus far. Certainly looks better than most of the crap on Roosevelt Island already.

Of course, that's really the problem. It's on Roosevelt Island. Off one train only, the F. If there's one train I hate more than the G, it's the F.

As for the usefulness of the buildings, I'm sure Cornell will not mess around with their facilities. It will be state-of-the-art without doubt.
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Old August 30th, 2014, 08:24 AM   #23
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Roosevelt Island's Goldwater Hospital Is Now See-Through



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First there was a hospital, and now there isn't, really. Well, a shell of one. Roosevelt Island's Goldwater Hospital is in the process of getting razed to make way for Cornell's new tech campus on the southern half of Roosevelt Island. The enormous facility once held 2,106 beds, and was known for architecture that was intended to facilitate healing as much as formal medication did. The Roosevelt Islander blog captured a few images of the teardown, noting that Cornell's official construction updates say that no explosives or a wrecking ball will be used. A large excavator will tear down the facade together with a shearing machine, which cuts through steel beams. Photographer Charles Giraudet, who chronicled the empty hospital in thousands of photos, must be pretty bummed.
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Old September 4th, 2014, 09:55 PM   #24
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Beautiful project imho. Of course, the best part of it is the nice view!
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 04:49 PM   #25
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Old October 5th, 2014, 05:00 AM   #26
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Old October 5th, 2014, 09:33 PM   #27
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Tear it down!!!

Seriously, how long does it take to tear some 5-story buildings down?
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Old October 5th, 2014, 09:49 PM   #28
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everything here needs to leave by barge...plus i bet there is aesbestos abatement involved which is always problematic
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Old October 5th, 2014, 10:27 PM   #29
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Tear it down!!!

Seriously, how long does it take to tear some 5-story buildings down?
As long as its safe. patience kills isnt?
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Old October 6th, 2014, 05:01 PM   #30
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Haha, yea I'm a little impatient. Just excited for this project. It'll really add a lot of visual interest to the midtown view across the 59th st bridge. Plus I'm just curious to see what a high-tech, well-funded modern campus looks like.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 01:06 AM   #31
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Much of the demolition work is now complete.

From December 31st:


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And this from NY YIMBY:

Permits Filed: Cornell Tech Campus’ Corporate Co-Location Building on Roosevelt Island
By: Reid Wilson on January 6th 2015 at 6:30 am


Cornell Tech Campus, image by Handel Architects

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At Roosevelt Island’s 1 Main Street, just below the Queensboro Bridge, Cornell University is demolishing the low-rise remains of the Goldwater Hospital complex to make way for their new Tech Campus. The first phase of demolition on the northern parcel is complete, and phase two, which includes the southern-most structures, is underway.

Accompanying demolition progress, the NYC Economic Development Corporation has begun submitting applications for Cornell’s new campus structures. And yesterday, another piece of the puzzle was revealed, with new filings detailing a six-story, 236,000 square-foot building, with 188,600 square feet of commercial space counting towards zoning.


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The building will be dubbed the Corporate Co-Location Building, and Marion Weiss & Michael Manfredi have designed a striking, crystalline structure. Cornell Tech’s site articulates the building’s details:
Designed to foster close interaction and collaboration between the tech community and Cornell Tech students and faculty, the Corporate Co-Location Building provides space for firms on campus. It is being developed in partnership with Forest City Ratner Companies.

First Academic Building, rendering by Handel Architects
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Besides Weiss/Manfredi’s contribution, applications for another four-story and 120,000 square-foot mixed-use academic building were filed one month ago. And this month, Roosevelt Islander reports construction is expected to kick off on a 26-story, 500-room dormitory, designed by Handel Architects. That building is set to be enclosed in a technologically advanced, prefabricated façade.
Corporate Co-Location Building, rendering by Marion Weiss & Michael Manfredi

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Cornell is to equip their entire campus with the latest and greatest in terms of construction and technology, and a modern replacement of the site’s defunct predecessors was long overdue. SOM is serving as the head designer of the broader redevelopment plan, and with demolition of the old hospital now wrapping up, work should be starting on the actual campus shortly.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 07:04 PM   #32
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what is the proposed budget for the new campus? All this looks pretty expensive
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Old January 8th, 2015, 07:05 PM   #33
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Tuitions from hell, I reckon.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 10:07 PM   #34
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I'm mystified by this concept.

For starters, the general thinking on "innovation" districts is that being in the middle of the city is better than being isolated. You run into other people in your field and in other fields, have lots of restaurants and bars to meet in, and so on.

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Universities live off synergies with other organizations. Many professors and students both work part-time at other companies or organizations, including a lot of spinoffs.

Starchitecture and labs don't tend to mix well. Labs like to be in standardized shapes that allow efficient modules. In their defense, maybe their odd shapes allow standardized lab and office modules, with the crazy shapes being additive rather than reductive.

Of course it's not a very large campus. 2msf is big but not that big.
I think part of the concept is to create a NEW hub for innovation rather than continue to rely on existing ones. And the 2msf is just "phase one" of the project as well.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 06:48 PM   #35
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Still chipping away at the old hospital buildings (click pic for full size):



Notice the chunks of rubble in midair:


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Old February 11th, 2015, 07:58 AM   #36
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They should have preserved this.
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Old March 8th, 2015, 07:27 AM   #37
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3/02 - site clearance progress


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5/03 Slowly moving towards that groundbreaking...


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Skyscrapers and environment

Nowadays skyscrapers are very much in number, but the important thing is the relation between skyscrapers and environment. for building a skyscraper we need to place to do so. What I like to say is our awareness to nature and environment. it is very good if we respect the surroundings and control pollution while building any skyscraper.
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Old September 11th, 2015, 07:27 PM   #40
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My narrow glimpse of the construction site down 57th Street and across the East River (click for full size)...



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