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Old September 10th, 2015, 10:59 PM   #201
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Well, it's great to see it open and look forward to full operation when the signally mess is sorted out.

Those LED displays are totally useless. They are telling me the name of the station I am in, the time of day, the track number and not much else. Surely it would be more useful for it to display the time to the next train(s) and the destination of that train.

That seems to be the method used on all the metro systems I have ridden on.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 11:26 PM   #202
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I see the trains to NAIT are also departing from Century Park. I thought Metro trains will start only at Health Sciences/Jubilee.
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Old November 26th, 2015, 04:43 PM   #203
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TransEd consortium selected for Edmonton Valley Line PPP contract
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THE City of Edmonton confirmed on November 25 that it has selected the TransEd Partners consortium as preferred bidder for the PPP contract to design, build, operate, maintain and finance the city's Valley Line LRT project

The consortium, which comprises Arup, Bechtel, Bombardier, Ellis-Don, Fengate Capital Management, IBI Group, and Transdev, was selected from three shortlisted bidders following an 18-month procurement process

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Old December 11th, 2015, 04:55 AM   #204
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Considering the fact that Edmonton has around 950,000 people, it actually is not quite too bad. Public transport makes up about 40% of all commutes in the city every day, which is quite a decent amount if you ask me.

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Old December 11th, 2015, 10:48 PM   #205
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Interesting, so Bombardiers Flexity Freedoms will become a bit of a staple in Canada for LRTs.. Mississauga, Toronto, Edmonton and Waterloo will all be using the same LRV.. probably close to 500 units between them.
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Old December 12th, 2015, 02:16 AM   #206
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It's also interesting that the new Valley Line will use low-floor LRVs, so it won't inter-operate with the existing line, which uses high-floor LRVs.
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Old December 12th, 2015, 09:26 PM   #207
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Considering the fact that Edmonton has around 950,000 people, it actually is not quite too bad. Public transport makes up about 40% of all commutes in the city every day, which is quite a decent amount if you ask me.
Well, we can consider that quite 1 000 000 inhabitants run 2, 3 or 4 000 000 travels each day, right ?

So, I'd say that 109 650 + 326 100 in public transports is ... low, in an urban area where LRT exists since quite 4 decades.
(not speaking about more than 200 bus routes, 26 hubs, ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_Transit_System )
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Old December 14th, 2015, 04:11 AM   #208
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[QUOTE=nanar;129269450]Well, we can consider that quite 1 000 000 inhabitants run 2, 3 or 4 000 000 travels each day, right ?

So, I'd say that 109 650 + 326 100 in public transports is ... low, in an urban area where LRT exists since quite 4 decades.
(not speaking about more than 200 bus routes, 26 hubs, ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_Transit_System )[/

Well you can blame the government for that one. The LRT should carry at least triple the amount that it does today in my opinion. But then against it completely leaves out the biggest residential areas, Mill Woods and West Edmonton.
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Old December 14th, 2015, 04:30 AM   #209
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It should carry 3 times more? How could a small 24.3 km LRT service be expected to carry more than 300 thousand per day? That's more like the capacity of a metro.

Currently, the Edmonton LRT carries more riders than Dallas DART, and is in the top 10 in NA (and along with Calgary is the smallest metro area in the top 10). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_..._North_America
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Yourself gives an example : In the wikipedia list, you'll find the detail for Guadalajara LRT system :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadal...ht_rail_system
Built 10 years after Edmonton, 24 km LRT and, already, 240 000 passengers/daily
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Guadalajara is a city and metropolitan area larger than Calgary and Edmonton combined. In fact, it has a population of 4.4 million! For the main urban rail system of a city that size to have ridership of only 240,000 is dismal. Although I suppose such a small system is probably crowded to capacity and can't handle any more riders.
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I think that depends of trains size, frequencies, "occupation rate" (during 1 journey between the two ends of the line, each place in the train is used by "n" travellers successively,) ...
In french city of Montpellier (urban area = 600 000), the first tram line is 16 km long and carries 125 000 passengers each weekday
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The LRT has the potential to carry more, but the headway of 15 minutes discourages high ridership and it doesn't have much purpose since it doesn't connect the biggest areas of the city. It was built as a show off for the commonwealth games in 77' after all.

It literally has 8 trains per hour in both directions, which is the same frequency as a commuter rail in Paris, Moscow or Tokyo.
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The LRT has the potential to carry more, but the headway of 15 minutes discourages high ridership and it doesn't have much purpose since it doesn't connect the biggest areas of the city. It was built as a show off for the commonwealth games in 77' after all.

It literally has 8 trains per hour in both directions, which is the same frequency as a commuter rail in Paris, Moscow or Tokyo.
Really? The schedule shows that for most of the day it's every 5-10 minutes and only 15 minutes at slow times?
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Really? The schedule shows that for most of the day it's every 5-10 minutes and only 15 minutes at slow times?
From my experiences over the past 20+ years, it occasionally comes every 7 minutes, but more often than not its 10-15 minutes. I've never seen the trains have a headway of 5 minutes (yet), but that might change soon, especially after the Valley Line kicks off.
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3rd Quarter daily public transit ridership for Edmonton

Edmonton / Edmonton Transit System LRT - 74,116 (2015) : -1.32%
Edmonton / Edmonton Transit System Bus - 223,540 (2015) : -1.32%
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Here's a column from earlier this month about the new Metro Line

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...ases-emissions

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It’s slower than a bus. It has slowed down the buses that existed. And it is almost certainly increasing Edmonton’s net amount of carbon emissions. In short, it fails on every single possible justification for why cities should build light rail.

I am a fervent — almost fanatical — supporter of public transit. I’ve taken pleasure trips to foreign cities largely to soak up the sublime efficiency of an S-Bahn or a New York City A-train. But lately I have trouble sleeping until I comfort myself with visions of the Metro Line LRT tracks being torn up, French résistance-style, so the tyrannical train can never, ever run again.
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Wasn't it obvious from the planning stage? Who's building streetcars? With street crossings? Really?
It was from the beginning a step backwards.
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wonder if the service is more used now it's part of the overground.
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