GENERELL UTVIKLING | Trondheim som den kunne ha vært

Tohaki · January 8th, 2012, 03:09 PM

I think it could be fun to have a thread dedicated to ideas that fell through, designs that were never used and projects that were never completed. In short, Trondheim as it could have been.

I will start with the main building of the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU), formerly the Norwegian Institute of Technology (NTH). The chosen design was created by Bredo Greve, but there were four other rewarded designs that I will present in this post.

"Vis à vis Domkirken", Bredo Greve

Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[1]

"Daggry", Thorvald Astrup

Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[2]

"Dixi", Henrik Nissen

Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[3]

"Teknikerborgen", Einar Oscar Schou

Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[4]

"Abel", Olaf Lilloe

Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[5]

I think the latter two are quite good, but I'm glad they chose Bredo Greve's design.

To be continued...

***Þróndeimr*** · January 8th, 2012, 03:15 PM

Glad de valgte Vis à vis Domkirken selv om Dixi og Teknikerborgen ser helt gri ut også. Abel blir litt for mye ripoff for min del.

Ser fram til mer!

Tohaki · January 9th, 2012, 02:03 PM

Next up is the highrise known as Trekanten at Rosten. I took the picture below with my mobile a couple of days ago.

When this was built in the late Eighties the plan was to build two highrises. The second one was however never built, presumably due to the banking crisis. The picture below shows how it would have looked.

essenze · January 9th, 2012, 03:51 PM

Damn, den hadde gjort seg godt som en del av et par, så synd det ikke ble noe av

Tronnelon · January 17th, 2012, 11:41 PM

Dette er en spennende tråd! Keep going Tohaki!

Tohaki · February 1st, 2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by essenze

Damn, den hadde gjort seg godt som en del av et par, så synd det ikke ble noe av

It would have been even better if one building had been a little taller than the other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tronnelon

Dette er en spennende tråd! Keep going Tohaki!

I have been quite busy lately, but I'll try to post another project soon.

By the way, has there been a collective decision to drop English as the forum language?

***Þróndeimr*** · February 1st, 2012, 03:23 PM

det er blitt bestemt at du kan bruke det språket du helst vil bruke, dog det er satt anbefaling om å bruke lokalt språk i seksjonene (Norge, Sverige, Finland osv.).

Galro · April 15th, 2012, 05:17 PM

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Galro · April 15th, 2012, 05:40 PM

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Tohaki · April 15th, 2012, 06:38 PM

It is interesting to think that the cathedral could have looked so different. You take it for granted the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Galro

There is a little cluster of run-down buildings approximately where this would have stood. I would assume that the university own them.

***Þróndeimr*** · April 27th, 2012, 11:32 AM

I wouldn't mind if they actually went through with some of the elements from Henrik Bulls proposal, seemed like the main tower was a lot taller and more majestic.

Galro · April 27th, 2012, 07:21 PM

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***Þróndeimr*** · April 27th, 2012, 08:51 PM

And at the same time the western wall was still in ruins. Nidarosdomen has certainly had many ups and downs over the centuries.

Nidarosdomen in 1878, the year the first phase in reconstruction works started.

Photographer: Erik Olsen (1835 - 1920)

arntf · April 30th, 2012, 12:02 AM

Forslagstegning til Trondhjems Tekniske Mellomskoles (forløperen til NTH/NTNU) bygning i Munkegaten 1 (dagens rådhus). Ikke så forferdelig ulikt det faktiske bygget.

image hosted on flickr

Kilde: Trondheim Byarkiv

edxor · April 30th, 2012, 06:34 PM

the foundation of the tower is too weak to support a higher tower, that's the reason Christie didn't make it any taller during the recontstruction

Tohaki · June 6th, 2012, 01:03 AM

That is what the building actually looked like before being rebuilt prior to becoming the city hall in 1930.

image hosted on flickr

Trondhjem seet fra Domkirken (1911) by Trondheim Byarkiv, on Flickr

Another building that was rebuilt is the central station, in the 1950s. They took a beautiful classical building and completely ruined it.

image hosted on flickr

Jernbanestasjonen by Trondheim Byarkiv, on Flickr

image hosted on flickr

by the train station by a kallitype, on Flickr

I wish they could restore it, but I think it is unlikely.

IceCheese · June 6th, 2012, 01:11 AM

The old railroadstation looks a lot like Østbanehallen. Are they from the same periode?

Galro · June 6th, 2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by IceCheese

The old railroadstation looks a lot like Østbanehallen. Are they from the same periode?

Oslos building is 29 years older.

Tohaki · June 6th, 2012, 01:48 AM

This was the second main railway station in Trondheim, completed as the terminal station for the Meråker line (to Sweden) in 1883. The first was located at Kalvskinnet and opened in 1864 as the terminal station for the Støren line. The Meråker line station soon became the central station though, before that term was invented.

Østbanestasjonen was opened in 1854, but was rehabilitated in 1882. I don't know how encompassing the rehabilitation was though.

Galro · June 6th, 2012, 01:52 AM

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January 8th, 2012, 03:09 PM	#1
Tohaki Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Trondheim Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 4	GENERELL UTVIKLING \| Trondheim som den kunne ha vært I think it could be fun to have a thread dedicated to ideas that fell through, designs that were never used and projects that were never completed. In short, Trondheim as it could have been. I will start with the main building of the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU), formerly the Norwegian Institute of Technology (NTH). The chosen design was created by Bredo Greve, but there were four other rewarded designs that I will present in this post. "Vis à vis Domkirken", Bredo Greve Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[1] "Daggry", Thorvald Astrup Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[2] "Dixi", Henrik Nissen Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[3] "Teknikerborgen", Einar Oscar Schou Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[4] "Abel", Olaf Lilloe Picture taken from Wikimedia Commons.[5] I think the latter two are quite good, but I'm glad they chose Bredo Greve's design. To be continued... __________________ "Og litjvisa mi vart ein kjærlighetssang, te by’n som æ eingang blei født i, ein by som har hjærte og rom for så mang’, og ei utmerket elv te å spøtt i."

January 9th, 2012, 02:03 PM	#3
Tohaki Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Trondheim Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 4	Next up is the highrise known as Trekanten at Rosten. I took the picture below with my mobile a couple of days ago. When this was built in the late Eighties the plan was to build two highrises. The second one was however never built, presumably due to the banking crisis. The picture below shows how it would have looked. __________________ "Og litjvisa mi vart ein kjærlighetssang, te by’n som æ eingang blei født i, ein by som har hjærte og rom for så mang’, og ei utmerket elv te å spøtt i." Last edited by Tohaki; January 9th, 2012 at 04:03 PM.

January 9th, 2012, 03:51 PM	#4
essenze Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Trondheim Posts: 487 Likes (Received): 6	Damn, den hadde gjort seg godt som en del av et par, så synd det ikke ble noe av __________________ ".. Well, it's too late tonight to drag the past out into the light.." Last edited by essenze; January 17th, 2012 at 11:59 PM.

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January 8th, 2012, 03:15 PM	#2
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,270 Likes (Received): 276	Glad de valgte Vis à vis Domkirken selv om Dixi og Teknikerborgen ser helt gri ut også. Abel blir litt for mye ripoff for min del. Ser fram til mer!

January 17th, 2012, 11:41 PM	#5
Tronnelon Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 78 Likes (Received): 3	Dette er en spennende tråd! Keep going Tohaki!

February 1st, 2012, 03:23 PM	#7
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,270 Likes (Received): 276	det er blitt bestemt at du kan bruke det språket du helst vil bruke, dog det er satt anbefaling om å bruke lokalt språk i seksjonene (Norge, Sverige, Finland osv.).

April 27th, 2012, 11:32 AM	#11
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,270 Likes (Received): 276	I wouldn't mind if they actually went through with some of the elements from Henrik Bulls proposal, seemed like the main tower was a lot taller and more majestic.

April 27th, 2012, 07:21 PM	#12
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,063 Likes (Received): 467	... __________________ @ Flickr Last edited by Galro; July 15th, 2012 at 07:14 PM.

April 27th, 2012, 08:51 PM	#13
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,270 Likes (Received): 276	And at the same time the western wall was still in ruins. Nidarosdomen has certainly had many ups and downs over the centuries. Nidarosdomen in 1878, the year the first phase in reconstruction works started. Photographer: Erik Olsen (1835 - 1920)

April 30th, 2012, 12:02 AM	#14
arntf Urbanite Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trondheim Posts: 351 Likes (Received): 13	Trondhjems Tekniske Mellomskole Forslagstegning til Trondhjems Tekniske Mellomskoles (forløperen til NTH/NTNU) bygning i Munkegaten 1 (dagens rådhus). Ikke så forferdelig ulikt det faktiske bygget. image hosted on flickr Kilde: Trondheim Byarkiv __________________ "Utrolig at vi har den store domkirken. Det var vel ikke noe bygningsråd den gangen!" Last edited by arntf; April 30th, 2012 at 12:17 AM.

April 30th, 2012, 06:34 PM	#15
edxor Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 91 Likes (Received): 22	the foundation of the tower is too weak to support a higher tower, that's the reason Christie didn't make it any taller during the recontstruction

June 6th, 2012, 01:03 AM	#16
Tohaki Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Trondheim Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 4	That is what the building actually looked like before being rebuilt prior to becoming the city hall in 1930. image hosted on flickr Trondhjem seet fra Domkirken (1911) by Trondheim Byarkiv, on Flickr Another building that was rebuilt is the central station, in the 1950s. They took a beautiful classical building and completely ruined it. image hosted on flickr Jernbanestasjonen by Trondheim Byarkiv, on Flickr image hosted on flickr by the train station by a kallitype, on Flickr I wish they could restore it, but I think it is unlikely. __________________ "Og litjvisa mi vart ein kjærlighetssang, te by’n som æ eingang blei født i, ein by som har hjærte og rom for så mang’, og ei utmerket elv te å spøtt i."

June 6th, 2012, 01:11 AM	#17
IceCheese Scandi-friendly Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oslo.no Posts: 5,985 Likes (Received): 89	The old railroadstation looks a lot like Østbanehallen. Are they from the same periode? __________________ Oslo/Copenhagen - The True Capital of Scandinavia. Take a look at my Photo Mess!

June 6th, 2012, 01:48 AM	#19
Tohaki Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Trondheim Posts: 271 Likes (Received): 4	This was the second main railway station in Trondheim, completed as the terminal station for the Meråker line (to Sweden) in 1883. The first was located at Kalvskinnet and opened in 1864 as the terminal station for the Støren line. The Meråker line station soon became the central station though, before that term was invented. Østbanestasjonen was opened in 1854, but was rehabilitated in 1882. I don't know how encompassing the rehabilitation was though. __________________ "Og litjvisa mi vart ein kjærlighetssang, te by’n som æ eingang blei født i, ein by som har hjærte og rom for så mang’, og ei utmerket elv te å spøtt i."

June 6th, 2012, 01:52 AM	#20
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,063 Likes (Received): 467	... __________________ @ Flickr Last edited by Galro; July 15th, 2012 at 07:14 PM.

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