Which Next Developed Country Will DOWN GRADE to Deloveping Country

[Godius]

Originally Posted by Name user 1

another question where is freedom of religion - mosques are allowed in the Netherlands right? but how about Latin American countries? can you build a mosque there and express your views?

Actually yes, Freedom of speech/expression/religion are constitutional rights.

The thing is that the minds of the people are curdled by Nationalistic/Fascist figures like Geert Wilders and their propaganda.

[geococcyx]

Originally Posted by Name user 1

another question where is freedom of religion - mosques are allowed in the Netherlands right? but how about Latin American countries? can you build a mosque there and express your views?

What country are you from?

That question is beyond offensive and ridiculous.

Of course there are mosques and people can express their religious or whatever views they have.

[Yuri S Andrade]

Originally Posted by Name user 1

another question where is freedom of religion - mosques are allowed in the Netherlands right? but how about Latin American countries? can you build a mosque there and express your views?

I thought you might have been trolling. Now I'm sure.

[Motul]

Mosque in Colombia:

[Motul]

Venezuela:

[sebvill]

Mosque in Peru



Sinagogue in Argentina



Hare krishna in Peru



Bhudist Temple in Brazil

Originally Posted by Name user 1

how about shocking inequality and lack of access to university education for all classes in Latin America?

Is this a contest about saying the defects of each other? (and some lies and ignorance included) Tell me if so, I have hundreds for Europe. I have a EU passport and nationality so I think I can comment. But its such a childish and pointless game....enought for not taking you seriously.

[Yuri S Andrade]

Mosque in Londrina:

Originally Posted by Yuri S Andrade

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Mosque King Fassal:
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Flickr by Gilberto Abelha

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Bhudist temples, we have a couple of dozens in Londrina region.

[Motul]

Welcome to the "Show me your mosques" thread XD

[Baleares]

Antes de tudo, vocês estão entendendo desenvolvimento da maneira errada. Desenvolvimento não é somente ter uma renda percapta elevada ou um IDH elevado. Desenvolvimento envolve também cultura, pensamento coletivo, infraestrutura, qualidade dos serviços públicos etc etc...

Coisas como produção tecnológica, científica, industrial, PIB e IDH são apenas os resultados de uma sociedade desenvolvida. Há que comprender que quem é desenvolvido, acima de tudo, não são as empresas americanas ou as rodovias americanas... É o povo americano.

O conceito de País em desenvolvimento, me passa a ideia de uma sociedade em transformação. Não somente uma sociedade que cresce a taxas chinesas. É por isso que considero que o Brasil está se desenvolvendo muito mais que a maioria dos seus vizinhos, porque está passando por mudanças mais profundas em sua sociedade. Mudanças que no futuro próximo, refletirão no desenvolvimento e no bem estar.

Portanto dizer qual País será desenvolvido ou qual País será subdesenvolvido não é fácil. O processo de desenvolvimento começa na sociedade, nas famílias, nas escolas e resulta em melhores indicadores sociais a longo prazo. Da mesma maneira, um suposto empobrecimento da população começa nessa mesma sociedade, geralmente refletida na política, e se expande pelos setores produtivos até atingir o bem estar.

Nesse sentido, podemos dizer que há Países que estão passando por grandes transformações de suas sociedades, e que futuramente poderão figurar como Países desenvolvidos, como o Brasil, o Peru, o Chile, a China, a India ou a Africa do Sul. Porém não consigo vislumbrar nenhum País desenvolvido que esteja passando por um processo inverso.

Ao menos não neste atual momento da nossa história. Entretanto, a própria evolução das sociedades, em seu caminho não inerente rumo ao desenvolvimento pleno, não tem data de duração e muito menos data marcada. Não podemos dizer que o Brasil será desenvolvido em 2030 ou 2040. Mas podemos dizer que o Brasil, atualmente, está no caminho correto do desenvolvimento, pois diversas características de sua sociedade, estão apresentando melhora substancial, bem como diversos outros Países como o Peru, o Chile, o México ou a China.

Da mesma maneira não podemos dizer que Portugal será subdesenvolvido em 2020 ou 2030 porque no atual momento, o que vemos é apenas uma crise economica, que tem influencia limitada a médio prazo no nível de desenvolvimento alcançado pela sociedade portuguesa. O mais provável é que tanto Portugal, quanto a Europa, se recuperem da crise antes que a crise afete de maneira irreversível suas sociedades e o nível real de desenvolvimento delas.


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First of all, you guys are understanding development in the wrong way. Development is not only have a high income percapta or a high HDI. Development involves above all culture, groupthink, infrastructure, quality of public services etc etc ...

Things like technology, science, industry, GDP and HDI are only the results of a developed society and its level of development. We must understand that who is developed, actually, are not the American companies or American highways ... It is the American people and the same to the others.

The concept of developing countries, gives me the idea of ​​a changing society. Not only a society that is growing at Chinese rates. That's why I believe that Brazil is developing much more than most of its neighbors, because it is undergoing most profound changes in its society than other contries. Changes in the near future, reflected in the development and welfare.

So to say which country will be developed or underdeveloped in the near future is not easy. The development process begins in the society, in families, schools and result in better long-term social indicators. Likewise, an alleged impoverishment of the population starts in the same society, usually reflected in politics, and expands the productive sectors to achieve wellness.

In this sense we can say that there are countries that are undergoing major transformations of their societies, and that in the near future may become developed societies such as Brazil, Peru, Chile, China, India or South Africa. However i cannot glimpse a developed country that is going through a reverse process.

At least not at this current moment in our history. However, the very evolution of societies, not inherent in its path towards the full development, has no scheduled date. We can not say that Brazil will be developed in 2030 or 2040. But we can say that Brazil currently is in the correct path of development, since several features of its society, are showing substantial improvement, as well as several other countries such as Peru, Chile, Mexico and China.

Likewise we can not say that Portugal will be underdeveloped in 2020 or 2030 because at the present time, what we see is just an economic crisis, which has limited influence over the level of development achieved by the Portuguese society, at least in the medium-term years. More likely is that both Portugal and Europe will get to recover from this crisis before it affects their societies irreversibly and in ways that affects its degree of development.

[Baleares]

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[Motul]

Voce tem muita raçao..

[Name user 1]

Originally Posted by geococcyx

That question is beyond offensive and ridiculous.

why is that question offensive?btw: some big mosques there

who does not give the questions will not find the answers

I rest my case

[Yuri S Andrade]

I do also have a question:

To me it's quite disturbing to think that the last time Europe were into a big economic crisis, they got into a world war killing almost 40 million of themselves. Americans and the good people of the British Empire had to clean their mess. Should we be worried?

[Baleares]

Originally Posted by Name user 1

why is that question offensive?btw: some big mosques there

who does not give the questions will not find the answers

I rest my case

I guess he talked about your prejudices. You think that in Latin America we are so undeveloped, that not even Mosques are permitted. But you are wrong. Actually Latin America is a very free and democratic region nowadays, specially Brazil, Chile, Peru, Mexico, Argentina and 90% of countries in the region.

Of course that we have many levels of Democratic Countries in the World, because democracy is not only free expression or free religion. But you guys need to stop seeing Latin America as a backward continent and start seeing it as a big region that undergoing a very marked transformation since 1990's just like YOUR countries did in the past.

Its a region that, in all terms, are in the average of the World. Not very nice neither very bad.

[sebvill]

Baleares: You are right, development is not only economic progress. Its not even just a well functioning democracy or really nice infraestructure. Is beyond that. Is a change of mentality and attitude. When most people in a society do not accept corruption in any level, thats development. When people use there freedom but do not interfere with the liberties and rights from everybody else in a society thats development. When people think in what they can do for their country instead what their country can do for them, I think thats development.

[Motul]

Sebvill for president!!

[Ulpia-Serdica]

I gotta say that the inferiority complexes of some Latin American members are bursting out all over the pages of this thread.

[Name user 1]

its nice to have some discussion - off course development its not only about GDP growth, but about sustainable development behind which is - economical, environmental and social development

apart from that I know some countries in Latin A. having some nice progress> such as Chile is prime example, otherwise Brazil is doing pretty good in diversification of its economy when comparing to 80's or 90's (now Brazil de facto dominate all Latin America)

don't now much about Peru or Bolivia (there are some separatists tendencies, but president is democratic and looking for consensus)

however Venezuela or Argentina are special cases both was well developed back in 50's but since then both stagnated in all fronts .. and what's worst now they try to cover it with nationalistic and inward looking protective polices (trade barriers..)

[Baleares]

Originally Posted by Ulpia-Serdica

I gotta say that the inferiority complexes of some Latin American members are bursting out all over the pages of this thread.

Are you saying it to me?

[sebvill]

Originally Posted by Ulpia-Serdica

I gotta say that the inferiority complexes of some Latin American members are bursting out all over the pages of this thread.

We are inferior to no one. Come on, we are the Worlds melting point.