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Old January 27th, 2012, 04:04 PM   #121
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I don't know if it's been already discussed, but i have a doubt...
Why HDI future estimation are downgrading sweden so much?
it isn't supposed to like the paradise those escandinavian countries? never been there.

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Old January 27th, 2012, 04:12 PM   #122
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I don't know if it's been already discussed, but i have a doubt...
Why HDI future estimation are downgrading sweden so much?
it isn't supposed to like the paradise those escandinavian countries? never been there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...United_Nations
I don't know.. its pretty wierd though. I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 05:26 PM   #123
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I don't know if it's been already discussed, but i have a doubt...
Why HDI future estimation are downgrading sweden so much?
Well, if you have seen the Swedish Chef then you will know that the Swedish cuisine isn't much to brag about. This is probably hampering their future.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #124
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I agree, but I also divide the "fully developed countries" in 4 categories.

1. Developped as heaven: Scandinavia, Australia, NZ, Japan, South Korea, Netherlands, Switzerland
2. Very developed: USA, Canada, Germany, Austria, UK, Ireland, Singapore
3. Developed: France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Slovenia, Taiwan, Israel, HK
4. Developed, but not very much: Czech Republic, maybe Slovakia, Portugal, Greece, Cyprus, Malta, some arab countries like Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Brunei, Kuwait

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Nearly developed: Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Baltic countries, Poland, Russia, Hungary, Croatia, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, (Turkey and Lebanon?)

Developing: Most of the balkan countries, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, most of Southeastern Asia countries, most of Latin America (with the exception of Bolivia, Paraguay, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti), South Africa, Namibia, Botswana

Undeveloped:

1. Almost developing: countries like India
2. Completely undeveloped (as hell ): countries like the Democratic Republic of Congo

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What on Earth is this South Korea is better than France, Belgium, Austria, Canada, US,........??? What a bloody joke Seriously, you are kidding right?
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Old January 27th, 2012, 07:35 PM   #125
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There must be a reason why S. Korea is above France in the HDI ranking...
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Old January 27th, 2012, 09:20 PM   #126
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I see that a lot of people underestimate South Korea, thats so unjustified.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #127
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It takes longer mentalities to change than countries.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #128
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What on Earth is this South Korea is better than France, Belgium, Austria, Canada, US,........??? What a bloody joke Seriously, you are kidding right?
HDI for these countries:

South Korea 0.897

Belgium 0.886

Austria 0.885

France 0.884
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Old January 27th, 2012, 10:46 PM   #129
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does south korea receive so much asylum seekers and immigrants as france?
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Old January 27th, 2012, 10:53 PM   #130
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What on Earth is this South Korea is better than France, Belgium, Austria, Canada, US,........??? What a bloody joke Seriously, you are kidding right?
Dude, South Korea has been overtaking many European Economies over the past 5 years in almost every indicator plus, their economic growth is still to die for considering growth among developed countries. On which planet do you live?
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:01 PM   #131
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I suppose you can't compare way of life just by comparing economic data.
Never heard of someone who would like to live the ''south korean way of life'', but on the other hand, the quality of french life is just a bit more inspiring.

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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:16 PM   #132
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I suppose you can't compare way of life just by comparing economic data.
Never heard of someone who would like to live the ''south korean way of life'', but on the other hand, the quality of french life is just a bit more inspiring.


It seems like you are living in the 19th century or something.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #133
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''It seems like you are living in the 19th century or something.''

no, but when i travel to europe, i see yellow faces everywhere, and i doubt if south korea is invaded by european tourists.
wtf wants to go to/ be in/ be like south korea?
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #134
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I suppose you can't compare way of life just by comparing economic data.
Never heard of someone who would like to live the ''south korean way of life'', but on the other hand, the quality of french life is just a bit more inspiring.
ugh, eurocentrism is so passé and disturbing
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #135
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''It seems like you are living in the 19th century or something.''

no, but when i travel to europe, i see yellow faces everywhere, and i doubt if south korea is invaded by european tourists.
wtf wants to go to/ be in/ be like south korea?
Heard of the Korean wave?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_wave
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #136
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and i'm not even european, but south korea? no thanks, not even the south koreans like their country it seems.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/...010400291.html

korean wave? in china? well, who wants to be a chinese?

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Old January 28th, 2012, 12:07 AM   #137
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and i'm not even european, but south korea? no thanks, not even the south koreans like their country it seems.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/...010400291.html

korean wave? in china? well, who wants to be a chinese?
Almost all over the world...last summer the was a korean pop concert in Paris that sold out in 10 min.

Watch these news clips about the phenomenon:

USA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsnVitJ5Vvw

Mexico

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFlxy1aQv30
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Old January 28th, 2012, 12:08 AM   #138
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ugh, eurocentrism is so passé and disturbing
I don't think it's eurocentrism, you need to work on your resintements or something judging from your constant posts with the same tone.

Actually, he has a point regarding "the way of life" and all of that. One has a lot of reasons to praise South Korea, but the way of living ain't one of them. Did you check their average working hours per week? It would be meaningless (taking into account Greece ranks right afterwards in the ranking) if it wasn't because they have also A VERY high productivity. Also, did you check their suicide rates? Vactions per year, etc?

Said this, one shouldn't get surprised either to see South Korea with such a high HDI index. They make top-noch, very high productivity, GDP per capita increasing, good education, life expectancy, infraestructures, and so on...

But there is a point in saying, as I explained, why one wouldn't want the "korean way of life". Much, much more harsh than the Japanese one!
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Old January 28th, 2012, 12:11 AM   #139
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S.Korea being not fully developed yet like France, is already more developed than France in many aspects. Now think about future! And wtf is "French way of life" and "everyone wants to be French" thing? If you talk about popularity Korean things are very popular in Asia. Your answer to that is "who wants to be Chinese?" Well, if you imagine that they realize things Europe can dream of only with 1/5 of Europe's GDP per capita imagine a fully developed China. I am actually admiring China. And France.. well, they've got the Eiffel tower...
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Old January 28th, 2012, 12:13 AM   #140
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I don't think it's eurocentrism, you need to work on your resintements or something judging from your constant posts with the same tone.

Actually, he has a point regarding "the way of life" and all of that. One has a lot of reasons to praise South Korea, but the way of living ain't one of them. Did you check their average working hours per week? It would be meaningless (taking into account Greece ranks right afterwards in the ranking) if it wasn't because they have also A VERY high productivity. Also, did you check their suicide rates? Vactions per year, etc?

Said this, one shouldn't get surprised either to see South Korea with such a high HDI index. They make top-noch, very high productivity, GDP per capita increasing, good education, life expectancy, infraestructures, and so on...

But there is a point in saying, as I explained, why one wouldn't want the "korean way of life". Much, much more harsh than the Japanese one!
I would love to live a Korean or a Japanese life rather than my boring Swedish life at the moment! I like the work ethics there, they have much better work ethics than the in the west.

For me:

high-paced life = more interesting
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