What developing countries closer to achieving developed country status? - Page 4

henrique42 · January 17th, 2012, 07:15 PM

and maybe you should read this article; where that same church is doubting the oficial poverty numbers....

http://www.zenit.org/article-18506?l=portuguese

chornedsnorkack · January 17th, 2012, 07:17 PM

Some countries, by 2010, nominal GDP per capita:

Italy - 34059
New Zealand - 32163
Hong Kong - 31514
Spain - 30639
Israel - 29264
South Cyprus - 28854
Greece - 27311
Slovenia - 23648
Portugal - 21542
South Korea - 20756
Malta - 19707
Taiwan - 18558
Czech Republic - 18277
Slovakia - 16104
Estonia - 14405
Croatia - 13776
Hungary - 13024
Poland - 12323
Uruguay - 11998
Chile - 11827
Lithuania - 11046
Brazil - 10816
Latvia - 10680
Russia - 10356
Turkey - 10309
Venezuela - 10049
Lebanon - 10041
Mexico - 9522
Argentina - 9131
Kazakhstan - 9009

Which of the above are developed, in your opinion?

Acosta · January 17th, 2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique42

and maybe you should read this article; where that same church is doubting the oficial poverty numbers....

http://www.zenit.org/article-18506?l=portuguese

Church? This university YES doubt the official poverty numbers. They say it's not 8.6%, but 25%. However, they state the reduce on poverty.

Of course they doubt the official poverty numbers. Everyone in Argentina or Somalia knows that the INDEC is not reliable. But the reduce on poverty is REAL.

Acosta · January 17th, 2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack

Some countries, by 2010, nominal GDP per capita:

Italy - 34059
New Zealand - 32163
Hong Kong - 31514
Spain - 30639
Israel - 29264
South Cyprus - 28854
Greece - 27311
Slovenia - 23648
Portugal - 21542
South Korea - 20756
Malta - 19707
Taiwan - 18558
Czech Republic - 18277
Slovakia - 16104
Estonia - 14405
Croatia - 13776
Hungary - 13024
Poland - 12323
Uruguay - 11998
Chile - 11827
Lithuania - 11046
Brazil - 10816
Latvia - 10680
Russia - 10356
Turkey - 10309
Venezuela - 10049
Lebanon - 10041
Mexico - 9522
Argentina - 9131
Kazakhstan - 9009

Which of the above are developed, in your opinion?

I don't agree on using nominal GDP per capita. Do you really think that South Korea can be represented with $20.756??? Or Russia, Argentina and Kazakhstan also thus poor?

Developed there: Italy, New Zealand, HK, Spain, Israel, Greece, Slovenia, Portugal, South Korea, Taiwan and maybe Czech Republic. Slovakia is very near.

henrique42 · January 17th, 2012, 07:19 PM

''Church? This university YES doubt the oficial poverty numbers''

universidad catolica...........and as you know, the catholic church is quite powerful over here

Antonio227 · January 17th, 2012, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique42

and maybe you should read this article; where that same church is doubting the oficial poverty numbers....

http://www.zenit.org/article-18506?l=portuguese

This article is from 2008.

Antonio227 · January 17th, 2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique42

''Church? This university YES doubt the oficial poverty numbers''

universidad catolica...........and as you know, the catholic church is quite powerful over here

In Brazil maybe. Not here, nowadays.

henrique42 · January 17th, 2012, 07:22 PM

''This article is from 2008''

right
and you can imagine how it is nowadays, with an inflation of 23 %.....

Acosta · January 17th, 2012, 07:23 PM

They say it's not 8.6%, but 25%. However, they state the reduce on poverty.

Of course they doubt the official poverty numbers. Everyone in Argentina or Somalia knows that the INDEC is not reliable. But the reduce on poverty is REAL.

Antonio227 · January 17th, 2012, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique42

''This article is from 2008''

right
and you can imagine how it is nowadays, with an inflation of 23 %.....

Dear brasuca: Argentina is not a poverty hole. Face it.

Antonio227 · January 17th, 2012, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acosta

They say it's not 8.6%, but 25%. However, they state the reduce on poverty.

Of course they doubt the official poverty numbers. Everyone in Argentina or Somalia knows that the INDEC is not reliable. But the reduce on poverty is REAL.

+1

Acosta · January 17th, 2012, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique42

''This article is from 2008''

right
and you can imagine how it is nowadays, with an inflation of 23 %.....

Now we're going to start the discussion about inflation.

With inflation or not, Argentina has the biggest purchasing parity medium income in Latin America (I'm not talking about GDP per capita. Argentina has the biggest medium income in Latin America even when you face it with the inflation).

henrique42 · January 17th, 2012, 07:27 PM

''They say it's not 8.6%, but 25%. However, they state the reduce on poverty.''
''Dear brasuca''

omg
the threats are starting......i'll rest my case, 'after all i know a bit of argentinian history, i don't want to disappear...
but still; argentina is just another 3th world country...with TWENTYFIVE % poverty, and inflation of 23 %....

henrique42 · January 17th, 2012, 07:29 PM

just this;

http://discepolin.blogspot.com/2011/...esando-la.html

THEY say it's 44 %....

Antonio227 · January 17th, 2012, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique42

just this;

http://discepolin.blogspot.com/2011/...esando-la.html

THEY say it's 44 %....

A libertarian blog.

What a joke.

Acosta · January 17th, 2012, 07:31 PM

44%?

That surely in Brazil.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique42

''They say it's not 8.6%, but 25%. However, they state the reduce on poverty.''
''Dear brasuca''

omg
the threats are starting......i'll rest my case, 'after all i know a bit of argentinian history, i don't want to disappear...
but still; argentina is just another 3th world country...with TWENTYFIVE % poverty, and inflation of 23 %....

Nobody has denied that Argentina is another 3rd world country.
____
With inflation or not, Argentina has the biggest purchasing parity medium income in Latin America (I'm not talking about GDP per capita. Argentina has the biggest medium income in Latin America even when you face it with the inflation).

Antonio227 · January 17th, 2012, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique42

''They say it's not 8.6%, but 25%. However, they state the reduce on poverty.''
''Dear brasuca''

omg
the threats are starting......i'll rest my case, 'after all i know a bit of argentinian history, i don't want to disappear...
but still; argentina is just another 3th world country...with TWENTYFIVE % poverty, and inflation of 23 %....

Slavery end:

Argentina-1813

Brasiú-1888

Cope with that.

Acosta · January 17th, 2012, 07:33 PM

Now we have really disturbed the thread theme.

In Latin America, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay and Costa Rica are the most developed countries. That's it.

isakres · January 17th, 2012, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack

Some countries, by 2010, nominal GDP per capita:

Italy - 34059
New Zealand - 32163
Hong Kong - 31514
Spain - 30639
Israel - 29264
South Cyprus - 28854
Greece - 27311
Slovenia - 23648
Portugal - 21542
South Korea - 20756
Malta - 19707
Taiwan - 18558
Czech Republic - 18277
Slovakia - 16104
Estonia - 14405
Croatia - 13776
Hungary - 13024
Poland - 12323
Uruguay - 11998
Chile - 11827
Lithuania - 11046
Brazil - 10816
Latvia - 10680
Russia - 10356
Turkey - 10309
Venezuela - 10049
Lebanon - 10041
Mexico - 9522
Argentina - 9131
Kazakhstan - 9009

Which of the above are developed, in your opinion?

Czeck Republic and above developed. Below, Developing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acosta

Now we have really disturbed the thread theme.

In Latin America, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay and Costa Rica are the most developed countries. That's it.

Costa Rica is no longer in the top 5 even. Panama and Mexico are above Costa Rica in almost every indicator, if only CR ranks better in security.

Quote:

Originally Posted by seattle92

Sure, you buy your imports with that fantasy money

Do you even know what PPP is?

So GDP Nominal is not fantasy money. lol lol.

PPP takes into account the cost of goods between 2 different currencies, so prices could be affected if the Peso is Overvalued or Undervalued vs US Dollar and thus, it would be a better proxy to determine and compare cost of living between countries.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/...#axzz1jkXpnhcX

Acosta · January 17th, 2012, 10:38 PM

That's true, but Costa Rica has less poverty.

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January 17th, 2012, 07:15 PM	#61
henrique42 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 156 Likes (Received): 0	and maybe you should read this article; where that same church is doubting the oficial poverty numbers.... http://www.zenit.org/article-18506?l=portuguese

January 17th, 2012, 07:17 PM	#62
chornedsnorkack Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,603 Likes (Received): 25	Some countries, by 2010, nominal GDP per capita: Italy - 34059 New Zealand - 32163 Hong Kong - 31514 Spain - 30639 Israel - 29264 South Cyprus - 28854 Greece - 27311 Slovenia - 23648 Portugal - 21542 South Korea - 20756 Malta - 19707 Taiwan - 18558 Czech Republic - 18277 Slovakia - 16104 Estonia - 14405 Croatia - 13776 Hungary - 13024 Poland - 12323 Uruguay - 11998 Chile - 11827 Lithuania - 11046 Brazil - 10816 Latvia - 10680 Russia - 10356 Turkey - 10309 Venezuela - 10049 Lebanon - 10041 Mexico - 9522 Argentina - 9131 Kazakhstan - 9009 Which of the above are developed, in your opinion?

January 17th, 2012, 07:19 PM	#65
henrique42 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 156 Likes (Received): 0	''Church? This university YES doubt the oficial poverty numbers'' universidad catolica...........and as you know, the catholic church is quite powerful over here

January 17th, 2012, 07:22 PM	#68
henrique42 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 156 Likes (Received): 0	''This article is from 2008'' right and you can imagine how it is nowadays, with an inflation of 23 %.....

January 17th, 2012, 07:23 PM	#69
Acosta USP Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: São Paulo Posts: 1,624 Likes (Received): 74	They say it's not 8.6%, but 25%. However, they state the reduce on poverty. Of course they doubt the official poverty numbers. Everyone in Argentina or Somalia knows that the INDEC is not reliable. But the reduce on poverty is REAL.

January 17th, 2012, 07:27 PM	#73
henrique42 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 156 Likes (Received): 0	''They say it's not 8.6%, but 25%. However, they state the reduce on poverty.'' ''Dear brasuca'' omg the threats are starting......i'll rest my case, 'after all i know a bit of argentinian history, i don't want to disappear... but still; argentina is just another 3th world country...with TWENTYFIVE % poverty, and inflation of 23 %....

January 17th, 2012, 07:29 PM	#74
henrique42 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 156 Likes (Received): 0	just this; http://discepolin.blogspot.com/2011/...esando-la.html THEY say it's 44 %....

January 17th, 2012, 07:33 PM	#78
Acosta USP Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: São Paulo Posts: 1,624 Likes (Received): 74	Now we have really disturbed the thread theme. In Latin America, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay and Costa Rica are the most developed countries. That's it.

January 17th, 2012, 10:38 PM	#80
Acosta USP Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: São Paulo Posts: 1,624 Likes (Received): 74	That's true, but Costa Rica has less poverty.