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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:01 PM   #1
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Britain trading outside eu, fixing the economy

To get the UK trade back to way it was, britain needs to trade out of europe! - it needs asian/china investment and trade and commonwealth trading and also brazil and US and mexico and many other's.

The EU is on its way out and down, britain has alot going for it and trading outside the eu is the way foward to increase trade.

Asian economies are booming Britain needs to grab this opprtunity and use it to it's advantage.

And britain needs to get manufacturing up and going again, that is a number 1 priority. Growth would clime, jobs will be created, Treasury will gain extra cash and overall the deficit will eventually get down.

No goverment in the uk has realised yet that the EU is going down like the titanic, they need to move back to the US and asia and trade more with our commonwealth partners.

we need to get exports high, do this by actually making stuff again and going on trade missions, get manufacturing up and get people in jobs and they will spend.

Get inflation down and people will spend that little bit more, get them all in jobs. Manufacturing is the answer! - we rely to much on banking and retail, them days are gone!

This is my solution and this will work, many other economy related people agree.

The tory's need to listen to this

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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:29 PM   #2
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You think Britain doesn't trade outside Europe?
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:34 PM   #3
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Manufactruing in this country will never be restored, the attitudes of the british play a pivotal role in the reasons why.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:34 PM   #4
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There is already manufacturing going on right now, at record levels. But of course since many of the cars being manufactured right now are not actually British it doesn't mean anything..
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:38 PM   #5
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I hate it when people say never. So just because the last few decades have been shit we will never manufacture again.....right then. Even though we are still 6 or 7th biggest manufacturer in the world with a lot of that being high tech.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:39 PM   #6
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I don't think OP has clear understanding of the reality.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:41 PM   #7
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You think Britain doesn't trade outside Europe?
Ever since thatcher left we have been throwing what we got at the EU and look what the EU has become now.

We don't trade Enough outside the eu
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #8
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There is already manufacturing going on right now, at record levels. But of course since many of the cars being manufactured right now are not actually British it doesn't mean anything..
Well record levels mean nothing you cannot compare today to many years ago, we could manufacture alot more then we currently are doing.

Many economists agree that we have to manufacture ALOT more then we currently do to get the economy to grow.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:46 PM   #9
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What exactly are you going to manufacture and export to China, given their ultra cheap slave labour as opposed to British?
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:46 PM   #10
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I don't think OP has clear understanding of the reality.
Are you saying many top economists don't have "clear understanding of the reality" either?

We need the thing's i said to grow economically again, otherwise we must aswell give up and walk away.
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In the 70's, half of all British manufactured cars never got exported.

Now, virtually all cars manufactured in Britain are exported abroad.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:47 PM   #12
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Ever since thatcher left we have been throwing what we got at the EU and look what the EU has become now.

We don't trade Enough outside the eu
How much is 'enough'. I think British businesses are happy to get customers in any part of the world.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:48 PM   #13
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What exactly are you going to manufacture and export to China, given their ultra cheap slave labour as opposed to British?
We could turn Scotland into an 'enterprise zone' and pay Chinese wages there.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:49 PM   #14
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What exactly are you going to manufacture and export to China, given their ultra cheap slave labour as opposed to British?
Well germany exports to china, why can't we?

We just need to wait and get the manufacturing business going again, at the end of the day the benefits will be seen.

China and UK have increased trade last year and will be doing so this year, China has also said about investing in many UK road/rail projects.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #15
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Robit obviously doesnt know his history, it was Thatcher that cut British Manufacturing and closed the mines as they were 'low value' jobs in her personal opinion and that Britain should concentrate on the service industry 'high value'.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:52 PM   #16
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How much is 'enough'. I think British businesses are happy to get customers in any part of the world.
We can say "enough" when we see growth speed up and pass 1.5% maybe or higher.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:55 PM   #17
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I suggest we rename this thread 'lets state the obvious'.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:55 PM   #18
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Well germany exports to china, why can't we?

We just need to wait and get the manufacturing business going again, at the end of the day the benefits will be seen.

China and UK have increased trade last year and will be doing so this year, China has also said about investing in many UK road/rail projects.
You had your chance to be like the Germans but you've rejected it.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:55 PM   #19
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Robit obviously doesnt know his history, it was Thatcher that cut British Manufacturing and closed the mines as they were 'low value' jobs in her personal opinion and that Britain should concentrate on the service industry 'high value'.
Yeah but the economy wasn't to bad at all at the end of the 80s, uneployment down and growth overall better then today's.

The services industry is over, done and dusted. it's useless now to be honest.

Manufacturing is the way foward with more trade outside of the EU with emerging economies.
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You had your chance to be like the Germans but you've rejected it.
Our goverment never accepted the offer, your correct.

That was one failure indeed.
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