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Old January 29th, 2012, 12:06 PM   #81
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The arena is also owned by the owner of the Bruins, not the Celtics.
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Old January 29th, 2012, 03:53 PM   #82
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How is American Airlines Arena and Amway considered better than American Airlines Center?

In my opinion, the AAC is the most unique arena in the NBA.
I wouldn't put too much stock in that list, it has Staples and MSG at the top, two pretty terrible arenas. I didn't read the article but I assume it's based on "amenities" for the 1%ers, or other things that have nothing to do with the arena itself. For example, why is Prudential Center 25th? I'm certain that has nothing to do with the actual arena.

Maybe I'll make a list of the greatest Cabbage Patch Kids of all time. I have no idea what I'm talking about but I bet it would cause quite a stir in the Cabbage Patch Kids forums
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Old January 29th, 2012, 07:04 PM   #83
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That's typical Bleacher Report BS. An article for the sake of writing an article. His "analysis" is terrible, and he gives no real explanation for any of it.
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Old January 29th, 2012, 09:47 PM   #84
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i really dont understand the rankings above. why on earth is MSG #1? the basketball mecca nonsense needs to stop.

LA, Chicago, and Boston are basketball meccas, NYC...not so much. Most NBA championships? Boston and LA. Most NCAA championships? LA. City with the most players in the NBA? LA every year, by a huge margin and Chicago second. MSG basketball championships? 2 in 65 years. Staples Center? 5 in 12. United Center? 6 in 20. there is zero reason why MSG should be #1.
If sporting venues were ranked based upon team success, PNC would be the worst park in the majors.
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Old January 29th, 2012, 10:03 PM   #85
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i really dont understand the rankings above. why on earth is MSG #1? the basketball mecca nonsense needs to stop.

LA, Chicago, and Boston are basketball meccas, NYC...not so much. Most NBA championships? Boston and LA. Most NCAA championships? LA. City with the most players in the NBA? LA every year, by a huge margin and Chicago second. MSG basketball championships? 2 in 65 years. Staples Center? 5 in 12. United Center? 6 in 20. there is zero reason why MSG should be #1.
Boston won their championships in the original Boston Garden. Lakers won a lot of theirs in the Forum. The Knicks have always played in MSG.
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Old January 29th, 2012, 10:11 PM   #86
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i really dont understand the rankings above. why on earth is MSG #1? the basketball mecca nonsense needs to stop.

LA, Chicago, and Boston are basketball meccas, NYC...not so much. Most NBA championships? Boston and LA. Most NCAA championships? LA. City with the most players in the NBA? LA every year, by a huge margin and Chicago second. MSG basketball championships? 2 in 65 years. Staples Center? 5 in 12. United Center? 6 in 20. there is zero reason why MSG should be #1.
By this logic, the Oakland Coliseum is one of the five best stadiums in MLB history. Come on now. I'm a Lakers fan and I couldn't even put it in the top 10. It's a poor place to watch a game, designed as much for the concerts and other events as it is basketball. That's fine because it makes the arena a brilliant moneymaking machine and capable of hosting so many events that make it so famous, but that doesn't make it a good place to watch a basketball game.
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Old January 29th, 2012, 10:18 PM   #87
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i really dont understand the rankings above. why on earth is MSG #1? the basketball mecca nonsense needs to stop.

LA, Chicago, and Boston are basketball meccas, NYC...not so much. Most NBA championships? Boston and LA. Most NCAA championships? LA. City with the most players in the NBA? LA every year, by a huge margin and Chicago second. MSG basketball championships? 2 in 65 years. Staples Center? 5 in 12. United Center? 6 in 20. there is zero reason why MSG should be #1.
Common sense would tell you that championships have nothing to do with the quality of a building in terms of watching basketball.

And NYC is a basketball mecca...just ask anyone from there how much the city loves the game.
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Old January 29th, 2012, 10:18 PM   #88
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i was surprised about how cozy the arena felt. i liked it and i really wanted to hate the place. getting out was interesting though. its seems as though the staircase winds down forever, going down to the depths of hell.
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By this logic, the Oakland Coliseum is one of the five best stadiums in MLB history. Come on now. I'm a Lakers fan and I couldn't even put it in the top 10. It's a poor place to watch a game, designed as much for the concerts and other events as it is basketball. That's fine because it makes the arena a brilliant moneymaking machine and capable of hosting so many events that make it so famous, but that doesn't make it a good place to watch a basketball game.
agreed, i preferred the feel of the Forum myself. my main gripe is the perpetuation of MSG and NYC as the mecca of basketball, it simply isnt. i wasnt trying to imply that Staples, TD or United Center are best places to watch basketball, rather, i was saying that in their short histories, all three have as much if not much more basketball history than MSG.
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agreed, i preferred the feel of the Forum myself. my main gripe is the perpetuation of MSG and NYC as the mecca of basketball, it simply isnt.
I thought East Coast/West Coast died with Pac and Biggie...
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You know, this "east cost bias" nonsense needs to stop. You guys out on the west coast have such an inferiority complex when it comes to this stuff. The Lakers are on TV all the time. The Clippers are on TV all the time. ESPN does nationally televised college games over there all the time. You have fewer metro areas. Deal with it. You guys decided to live in a place that's 3 hours behind the major population centers of the country. Deal with it.
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Old January 29th, 2012, 10:31 PM   #92
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agreed, i preferred the feel of the Forum myself. my main gripe is the perpetuation of MSG and NYC as the mecca of basketball, it simply isnt. i wasnt trying to imply that Staples, TD or United Center are best places to watch basketball, rather, i was saying that in their short histories, all three have as much if not much more basketball history than MSG.
MSG probably holds more basketball events in a single year than Staples, United and TD combined (outside of the NBA).

Kids dream of someday playing at MSG in college. Wonder why the Big East Tournament is so cool? It's at the Garden. The NIT holds 2 tournaments there every year. And apart from that, there are a bunch of other preseason tournaments held there every year. When's the last time you turned on ESPN and saw a team other than the Celtics playing at TD? Or the Bulls at United? I guess Staples has the oh so popular Pac 12 tournament (which I've been to BTW, and was not impressed with the atmosphere.)

Maybe you just don't get it, but over here on the East Coast, NYC is basketball. It isn't even arguable. It's a fact.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 12:09 AM   #94
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The old Boston Garden had those color seats which is why they were chosen.

I'm sure inside its fine but the TD Garden outside looks more then a bit banal. Perhaps the worst? outside exterior in the NBA I'm thinking.
Bradley center takes the cake for mine, ugly inside and out.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 05:59 AM   #95
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MSG probably holds more basketball events in a single year than Staples, United and TD combined (outside of the NBA).

Kids dream of someday playing at MSG in college. Wonder why the Big East Tournament is so cool? It's at the Garden. The NIT holds 2 tournaments there every year. And apart from that, there are a bunch of other preseason tournaments held there every year. When's the last time you turned on ESPN and saw a team other than the Celtics playing at TD? Or the Bulls at United? I guess Staples has the oh so popular Pac 12 tournament (which I've been to BTW, and was not impressed with the atmosphere.)

Maybe you just don't get it, but over here on the East Coast, NYC is basketball. It isn't even arguable. It's a fact.
lol the NIT... whooop de doo.

and we dont have an inferiority complex on the west coast... its just that its very annoying that NYers have to insist that MSG and NYC are the mecca.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 08:00 AM   #96
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how is new york the basketball mecca when their basketball team isn't even the most popular team in their own city? NYC is basketball .. lol
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Sounds like they haven't figured out how to properly insulate the floor at the Prudential Center. Nets players are complaining it's too cold.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 08:49 AM   #98
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lol the NIT... whooop de doo.
Yeah, and the Big East Tournament -- you know, the conference that's won FOUR titles since the WAC-12 last did?
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Old January 31st, 2012, 01:58 AM   #99
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i really dont understand the rankings above. why on earth is MSG #1? the basketball mecca nonsense needs to stop.

LA, Chicago, and Boston are basketball meccas, NYC...not so much. Most NBA championships? Boston and LA. Most NCAA championships? LA. City with the most players in the NBA? LA every year, by a huge margin and Chicago second. MSG basketball championships? 2 in 65 years. Staples Center? 5 in 12. United Center? 6 in 20. there is zero reason why MSG should be #1.

Are you serious? Maybe you mean NYC is not an NBA mecca. But for the game of basketball in general with the history of street basketball, tournaments, and the legends that have came from there. Yes, NYC is indeed a basketball mecca. It's a huge part of their culture. Especially among Blacks and Hispanics.
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Old January 31st, 2012, 03:08 AM   #100
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lol the NIT... whooop de doo.

and we dont have an inferiority complex on the west coast... its just that its very annoying that NYers have to insist that MSG and NYC are the mecca.
The NIT is also a preseason tournament that starts before the conference schedule. It's one of many preseason basketball tournaments held at MSG.

And no one has to insist that MSG is the mecca of basketball. Over here it's just implied that it is. No one questions it because it's true.
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