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Old January 22nd, 2012, 12:45 AM   #21
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I think it's the nature of rapid (and by rapid we really mean rapid) change in Chinese cities where even those who closely follow the events cannot digest all the changes that happen there. Hence prejudice and default assumptions come to help (such as Shenzhen having no culture and being dangerous, or Guangzhou being gray and ugly, or Shanghai being just a business city, or Beijing being better for culture than Shanghai, etc.). I think the biggest excitement in China is to see the place in person and break any stereotypes one might have in their head.
That is a good point. It is hard to believe how fast Shanghai has grown, not to mention other chinese cities.

I admit that I did go to Shanghai with this colossal business-city image in my mind (which by no means would be a bad thing), but of course there was a lot more to it. The city had a special East-meets-West atmosphere which - I'd hazard a guess - makes Shanghai a bit different compared to the other major chinese cities.

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by any means, Paperbird please continue with posting your excellent photos if you have any more. It's a great pleasure to enjoy quality.
I have a few more coming... I appreciate your interest!
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 12:54 AM   #22
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I hope they keep these buildings in the future...


great pictures!
Thank you, El Palmesano! I'm sure they will. Those buildings are (from the top) Metropole Hotel, YiChang Lu Fire Station and Longhua Temple. I should have included some info on the photos...
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 05:10 AM   #23
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shanghai probably has the largest "downtown eara"in the world---means highly urban eara.several months ago i drove to shanghai, it's almost dark and i lost direction,comes to an eara which is far away from city center ,a bit south of hongqiao airport---still heavy traffic, high quality streets \shops\restaurants, just same as city center.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 10:58 AM   #24
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Great, very nice photos from Shanghai, well done and thanks
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 05:49 PM   #25
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I do agree with you about Shanghai, especially after visiting the city. I was merely quoting what I was told before my trip. I have a feeling that some people who visit - especially those who are only stopping by - only see the areas around Nanjing Lu, Bund and Pudong and leave with mixed feelings. Of course there is a great deal more to this diverse city. I found Zhabei and Hongkou particularly nice to walk around, although I regret to note that I didn't come home with many pictures from those parts.

I should also mention that I stayed at the Broadway Mansions Hotel, which I chose - in addition to being a classy hotel at a great location - for its historical significance.
Zhabei and Hongkou are precisely the areas that I had in mind. The area around Nanshi along with the area near Huaihai Lu (not the commercial Huaihai Lu) near DaShiJie subway station have a very deep historic character to it. They feel like a J.G. Ballard story come to life with their sounds, smells, and most of all, a continuity with the past that few other Chinese cities have (I've been to a fair number of them). There is a raw authenticity in Shanghai's connection to its past as opposed to Beijing, where there is instead an artificial effort to reconstruct its historic character by restoring its monuments and building modern structures with Chinese characteristics. (Not to say that this doesn't happen in Shanghai either, I've seen many buildings where Western columns have just been added for the sake of decoration as well as horrendous half assed attempts at making a structure look art deco)

Now I'm not trying to bash Beijing. These efforts I feel are better than soulless modern architecture and wholesale destruction of historic monuments. The effort to reconnect Beijing with its past is very worthwhile and will definitely pay off. But I'm reaffirming your impression that Shanghai is definitely not just a modern business center, but should be recognized for its significant contribution to history and culture, especially from 1912-1949.
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Zhabei and Hongkou are precisely the areas that I had in mind. The area around Nanshi along with the area near Huaihai Lu (not the commercial Huaihai Lu) near DaShiJie subway station have a very deep historic character to it. They feel like a J.G. Ballard story come to life with their sounds, smells, and most of all, a continuity with the past that few other Chinese cities have (I've been to a fair number of them). There is a raw authenticity in Shanghai's connection to its past as opposed to Beijing, where there is instead an artificial effort to reconstruct its historic character by restoring its monuments and building modern structures with Chinese characteristics. (Not to say that this doesn't happen in Shanghai either, I've seen many buildings where Western columns have just been added for the sake of decoration as well as horrendous half assed attempts at making a structure look art deco)

Now I'm not trying to bash Beijing. These efforts I feel are better than soulless modern architecture and wholesale destruction of historic monuments. The effort to reconnect Beijing with its past is very worthwhile and will definitely pay off. But I'm reaffirming your impression that Shanghai is definitely not just a modern business center, but should be recognized for its significant contribution to history and culture, especially from 1912-1949.
Zhabei and Hongkou were indeed atmospheric and felt very authentic. I regret that I didn't make it to the area around DaShiJie station. Hopefully there will be an another change. I'd love to re-visit Shanghai in a few years time to see how much it has changed. Still, I hope they will preserve the areas and buildings with historical significance, despite the pressure for redevelopment.
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That such great photos, you capture the city in a different way, congratulations!

This reminds me in particualar the game Sim City 4


please more photos!
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That such great photos, you capture the city in a different way, congratulations!

This reminds me in particualar the game Sim City 4


please more photos!
Thank you very much!
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