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Old January 24th, 2012, 10:36 AM   #41
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well to me the picture clearly shows 24 floors...... and the article clearly states this will be an office building.

assuming both are accurate - which i assume they would be if it is an official press release - then id say at the present moment in time... it is indeed confirmed... though why you need this explaining to you is beyond me, you can see what i can see sandblast!
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Old January 24th, 2012, 10:47 AM   #42
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I think it's more to do with the fact "The Fly" notorious for hating anything other than Manchester and Manchester United is questioning the tower believing it's 10 storeys tall due to the description within the article that the floor plates are 20,000sqft and the office element is only 200,000sqft.

Unfortunately he lacks understanding of the area and common sense which has seen him cause a stir with a few Brummie forumers.

Apparently Birmingham "will never construct a 100m office tower as it'll only the be the 4th outside London" ... or something along those lines anyway.

We can all see it for ourselves. It's just the ones with blinkers who cant.

It's a biggie.
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Old January 24th, 2012, 11:00 AM   #43
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well where has he said that???

he may have a point.... his maths is right.... 20,000 sqft floorplats for a 200,000 sqft building is a 10 storey building....

that said, the image clearly shows the following...

a) 24 floors
b) changing floor plates - only because the building offers 20,000 sqft floorplates doesnt mean all floorplates will be 20,000sqft
c) the footprint og the site is much smaller than that of the first two office buildings, and if memory serves, they dont offer floorplates much larger than 20,000 sqft (though im happy to be corrected)

i have taken the 120-125m from the picture, but that said, the fact that the article clearly states the office will be between 150,000 to 200,000 sqft suggests the developers dont know how big it will be... thats a 25% range!
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Old January 24th, 2012, 11:54 AM   #44
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Goning to be a bigge nomatter what! #WINNING
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Old January 24th, 2012, 11:59 AM   #45
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well where has he said that???

he may have a point.... his maths is right.... 20,000 sqft floorplats for a 200,000 sqft building is a 10 storey building....
Indeed. But common sense prevailing and local knowledge (we all know this is a gateway site, due for a highrise tower)


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that said, the image clearly shows the following...

a) 24 floors
It does

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b) changing floor plates - only because the building offers 20,000 sqft floorplates doesnt mean all floorplates will be 20,000sqft
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c) the footprint og the site is much smaller than that of the first two office buildings, and if memory serves, they dont offer floorplates much larger than 20,000 sqft (though im happy to be corrected)
Exactly - as I have explained to him.

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i have taken the 120-125m from the picture, but that said, the fact that the article clearly states the office will be between 150,000 to 200,000 sqft suggests the developers dont know how big it will be... thats a 25% range!
I agree with you. I assumed the same.

We shall wait and see. The reason Sandblast wanted clarification was I believe to throw it at "The Fly".

He tends to ignore what we've been saying on the thread so I think he wants your "thumbs up".
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Old January 24th, 2012, 08:17 PM   #46
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WOODY is king or queen, he he he he he
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Old January 24th, 2012, 08:19 PM   #47
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now BOW damn you!!!
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Old January 24th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #48
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well where has he said that???

he may have a point.... his maths is right.... 20,000 sqft floorplats for a 200,000 sqft building is a 10 storey building....

that said, the image clearly shows the following...

a) 24 floors
b) changing floor plates - only because the building offers 20,000 sqft floorplates doesnt mean all floorplates will be 20,000sqft
c) the footprint og the site is much smaller than that of the first two office buildings, and if memory serves, they dont offer floorplates much larger than 20,000 sqft (though im happy to be corrected)

i have taken the 120-125m from the picture, but that said, the fact that the article clearly states the office will be between 150,000 to 200,000 sqft suggests the developers dont know how big it will be... thats a 25% range!
That's absolutely fantastic if it is going to be a 24 storey office tower Woody, and makes up for the loss of a 40 storey apartment building on this site.

I only questioned it for the reasons Ecological stated above ... and thought you may be privvy to written information that you can't publish, maybe?!?
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Old January 24th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #49
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nope, i know nothing more than you guys and gals know im afraid!
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Old January 25th, 2012, 01:18 AM   #50
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Shame. Great view of St. Chads from the corner offices when it is built.
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Old January 25th, 2012, 01:29 AM   #51
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We'll have to wait until we get a CGI, I'm sure the glass effect will look just as good, one thing I'm not too keep on though it the boldness of it, the slim profile of the first project was spot on.
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Old January 25th, 2012, 02:03 AM   #52
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Will they use the old cores, or demolish them?
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Old January 25th, 2012, 08:19 AM   #53
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If the pic is to be taken literally I think it's around 100m. It looks taller because of the perspective but if you compare the height of the far wall to snow hill 2, it's 50% higher, so that's 1.5 x 75 = 110ish.
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Old January 25th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #54
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Will they use the old cores, or demolish them?
well they have kept the same podium design which suggests they are keeping the some of the core
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Old January 25th, 2012, 09:33 PM   #55
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100m max.... I think

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Old January 25th, 2012, 10:25 PM   #56
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How can the smaller building be 50m if Snowhill 2 is 75m, and it looks the same height or a bit taller..

(I could be wrong!)
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Old January 25th, 2012, 10:32 PM   #57
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How can the smaller building be 50m if Snowhill 2 is 75m, and it looks the same height or a bit taller..

(I could be wrong!)
shit the bed, i thought snowhill 2 was around 57m? whoops!
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Old January 25th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #58
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^ I looked at completed projects and for some reason snowhill 1 says 57m.. So i assumed, being the same height, that snowhill phase 2 was also 57m. ohwell
In that case... over 100m!
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Old January 25th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #59
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Snowhill 2 actually has a couple more floors (i think) making it 75m
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Old January 25th, 2012, 11:02 PM   #60
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Taking a look at the thunbnail pic from the back of the building, the shorter section appears to be about level with SnowHill 2 .Then taking a look from the front there seems to be a further 10 floors to add on .I'd be disappointed if it didn't hit 110m.
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