Irish Rugby Thread - Page 6

jpgjohnnyg · March 2nd, 2012, 08:16 AM

Murray has potential but is slow to get the ball out and is hesitant. Reddan got quick ball out against the Italians but can also be quite hesitant. Reddan was a class player at wasps and although good at times hasnt really showed that class with Leinster or Ireland. I think for once Deccie may have got it right. Murray to start as his physicality will help the Irish defence which Im sure will be in constant action and then bring on Reddan as an impact sub when both teams are tiring hopefully we will still be in the game at that stage. I think we have a chance but only if Earls and Darcy have great games and nail all their tackles - is that likely? - probably not

thebig C · March 2nd, 2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hitmanhart

Why is there a big clamor to replace Murray with Reddan?Murray has had 1 average game since he came into the team. As people have been saying he brings physicality to the no. 9 shirt and offers an attacking threat ala Phillips for Wales.Reddan has been good but we know what he brings to the team. Good passing but can be suspect himself at times. People are overlooking the fact that Italy were beaten before Reddan even got on the pitch.And how can there be a bias for munster players thebigc? Reddan like murray is from limerick.So whats your point?

Think JD47 is right expect France through Rougerie and Fofana to overrun Darcy and Earls.

Hey Hitman

.....I meant in the sense that Reddan plays for Leinster, Murray plays for Munster. Ironically, I know I brought up the bias issue but personally I don't like to focus on it. Having said that, I know a guy in Limerick and he socialises with some of the players who were around circa 2007 World Cup. He told me that there was a brawl in the dressing room at half time in one of the World Cup games, and it was an internecine fight amongst Leinster and Munster players!! All I'm trying to say is some of this rubbish could be at play.

IMO, on the basis of the performances I would have Reddan on ahead of Murray. Decco was very innovative as regards his subs and the final 15 which was on for the last 20 mins or so looked very good. I am surprised he didn't go (with one or two exceptions) with this formation.

thebig C · March 2nd, 2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jpgjohnnyg

Murray has potential but is slow to get the ball out and is hesitant. Reddan got quick ball out against the Italians but can also be quite hesitant. Reddan was a class player at wasps and although good at times hasnt really showed that class with Leinster or Ireland. I think for once Deccie may have got it right. Murray to start as his physicality will help the Irish defence which Im sure will be in constant action and then bring on Reddan as an impact sub when both teams are tiring hopefully we will still be in the game at that stage. I think we have a chance but only if Earls and Darcy have great games and nail all their tackles - is that likely? - probably not

Stranger things have happened. This may account for the calls among Rugby journalists for Tommy Bowe to switch from wing to centre for Ireland.....he did look decent there when tested against Italy.

thebig C · March 6th, 2012, 08:31 PM

Well, it ended all square. Either side could have won it really.

T Bowe was excellent as usual. Admittedly, Murray had a much better game and suffered a very nasty injury.

JD47 · March 6th, 2012, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thebig C

Well, it ended all square. Either side could have won it really.

T Bowe was excellent as usual. Admittedly, Murray had a much better game and suffered a very nasty injury.

Ireland need to learn how to finish off the game against the French. We had them on the ropes but we let them back into the game.

thebig C · March 7th, 2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JD47

Ireland need to learn how to finish off the game against the French. We had them on the ropes but we let them back into the game.

Thats true Mate. We were the same against the Welsh!

JD47 · March 7th, 2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thebig C

Thats true Mate. We were the same against the Welsh!

They are like Liverpool. They can play well but just cant kill the game off coming to the closing.

thebig C · March 7th, 2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JD47

They are like Liverpool. They can play well but just cant kill the game off coming to the closing.

) Aw don't talk to me....I'm a Pool fan.....I'm fed up watching Suarez miss 20 chances in the first ten minutes and then we end up geting beaten

JD47 · March 7th, 2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thebig C

) Aw don't talk to me....I'm a Pool fan.....I'm fed up watching Suarez miss 20 chances in the first ten minutes and then we end up geting beaten

Me too. I get loads of shit for being a Liverpool fan in the sports field. Then again I am very biased

thebig C · March 17th, 2012, 06:47 PM

Well.... I think we can take England, but, either way I think the IRFU should sit down and look at the management. I feel we have gone just a little stale. In both the French and Welsh games we just seemed to lack the sharpness to put the opposition away.

Having said that, I'm gutted the Welsh won. Granted every winning grand slam team gets the bounce of the ball in their favour, but Wlaes had a few referees acting as a 16th man throughout the tournament....including today. Sad that even with the TMO wrong decisions can still decide the fate of the Championship.

Seravia · March 17th, 2012, 11:32 PM

Wales were by far the best team in the competition. You can look at the Ferris decision and talk about how we should have won it, but really, we shouldn't. We were terrible that day. Wales haven't been superb this whole tournament, but they have been the best team.

As for today, we were absolutely atrocious. That is the worst Ireland game I have ever seen, and we made Scotland v Italy look good. During the first half I was going crazy with all the knock ons, many of them for no apparent reason.

Ross was being beaten in the scrum, but Court got absolutely destroyed. I thought Northampton v Munster was bad, but the Irish scrum had no chance whatsoever. But you can't blame Court for the performance today. Yes he was useless today, but he is a decent loosehead. The real blame lies with the management and Kidney. He is turning this Irish team into a laughing stock. Why in the name of god did he bring on TOL just after half time?! Why not sub Darcy for McFadden, Sexton was having a grand game. I just can't see a future for this Irish team with Kidney at the head.

With that rage out of the way, I have to see Fare play to England, particularly the Front Row and Morgan.
Also congratulations to Wales.

JD47 · March 18th, 2012, 12:34 PM

That was an awful result yesterday. I have ro say though that they deserved to lose. All week we have been cocky and saying how we are going to win this game. I think Kidney needs to go and we need someone else in. We have another year to do that now before the Six Nations begins in 2013. Something just is'nt right in that Ireland team. To many mistakes leads to to many defeats.

thebig C · March 30th, 2012, 11:50 AM

Hahaha....boy did I get my above comment wrong. Thats the worst I have seen Ireland play in a long time! Pause for thought!!!

Robinson has held on at Scotland but at least he could claim that the performances have improved if not the results.

Lancaster was a shoo-in for the English job given what transpired.

I still think Wales were the best by default. And also, I stand my my remarks that its a pity the Grand Slam was decided by a refereeing error.

Oh well......I still have Leinster

JD47 · March 30th, 2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thebig C

Hahaha....boy did I get my above comment wrong. Thats the worst I have seen Ireland play in a long time! Pause for thought!!!

Robinson has held on at Scotland but at least he could claim that the performances have improved if not the results.

Lancaster was a shoo-in for the English job given what transpired.

I still think Wales were the best by default. And also, I stand my my remarks that its a pity the Grand Slam was decided by a refereeing error.

Oh well......I still have Leinster

Alright C. I have not spoken to you in a while. I thought that Ireland would lose like that to England. England really wanted to beat us so they did. This just sums up how we are not as good as everyone thinks. We need new change in management. Lets hope Leinster do us proud.

Seravia · March 30th, 2012, 10:39 PM

And Munster! Hoping the game tomorrow is going to be a cracker. I'm still hoping Munster can do it, but realistically we're missing our second row and scrum half. MoD and DoC should do a fine job in the 2nd row, but ToL could be the death of us.

Earls versus O'Driscoll is going to be an interesting fight, as is the Backrow.

thebig C · March 31st, 2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JD47

Alright C. I have not spoken to you in a while. I thought that Ireland would lose like that to England. England really wanted to beat us so they did. This just sums up how we are not as good as everyone thinks. We need new change in management. Lets hope Leinster do us proud.

Hey Mate! Yeah....a combination of being busy and unwell kept me away from the keyboard

I think you are correct, England had something to prove and they did it! Ireland are a team at a crossroads the so called golden generation are either retired or in the process of doing so. Now is the time to make changes and rebuild.

thebig C · March 31st, 2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Seravia

And Munster! Hoping the game tomorrow is going to be a cracker. I'm still hoping Munster can do it, but realistically we're missing our second row and scrum half. MoD and DoC should do a fine job in the 2nd row, but ToL could be the death of us.

Earls versus O'Driscoll is going to be an interesting fight, as is the Backrow.

Didn't know you were Munster

It seems to be predominently Leinster and Ulster represented here!!

Still win all the injuries Munster remain one of those teams that will be in the shake-up until the end!

JD47 · March 31st, 2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Seravia

And Munster! Hoping the game tomorrow is going to be a cracker. I'm still hoping Munster can do it, but realistically we're missing our second row and scrum half. MoD and DoC should do a fine job in the 2nd row, but ToL could be the death of us.

Earls versus O'Driscoll is going to be an interesting fight, as is the Backrow.

Of course Munster. I follow all of the Irish four. Leinster first of course but I love seeing the other three win for Ireland.

thebig C · April 1st, 2012, 03:10 PM

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Of course Munster. I follow all of the Irish four. Leinster first of course but I love seeing the other three win for Ireland.

Me too

)

JD47 · April 1st, 2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thebig C

Me too

)

We can do it. I think one of the Irish sides will win the Heineken Cup. Hopefully it will be Leinster. Maybe they can brighten up my week by beaten Cardiff Blues next week. That will at least be one of the sports teams I support win

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March 2nd, 2012, 08:16 AM	#101
jpgjohnnyg boondock Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 107 Likes (Received): 5	Murray has potential but is slow to get the ball out and is hesitant. Reddan got quick ball out against the Italians but can also be quite hesitant. Reddan was a class player at wasps and although good at times hasnt really showed that class with Leinster or Ireland. I think for once Deccie may have got it right. Murray to start as his physicality will help the Irish defence which Im sure will be in constant action and then bring on Reddan as an impact sub when both teams are tiring hopefully we will still be in the game at that stage. I think we have a chance but only if Earls and Darcy have great games and nail all their tackles - is that likely? - probably not

March 6th, 2012, 08:31 PM	#104
thebig C Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,030 Likes (Received): 13	Well, it ended all square. Either side could have won it really. T Bowe was excellent as usual. Admittedly, Murray had a much better game and suffered a very nasty injury.

March 17th, 2012, 06:47 PM	#110
thebig C Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,030 Likes (Received): 13	Well.... I think we can take England, but, either way I think the IRFU should sit down and look at the management. I feel we have gone just a little stale. In both the French and Welsh games we just seemed to lack the sharpness to put the opposition away. Having said that, I'm gutted the Welsh won. Granted every winning grand slam team gets the bounce of the ball in their favour, but Wlaes had a few referees acting as a 16th man throughout the tournament....including today. Sad that even with the TMO wrong decisions can still decide the fate of the Championship.

March 17th, 2012, 11:32 PM	#111
Seravia Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 104 Likes (Received): 2	Wales were by far the best team in the competition. You can look at the Ferris decision and talk about how we should have won it, but really, we shouldn't. We were terrible that day. Wales haven't been superb this whole tournament, but they have been the best team. As for today, we were absolutely atrocious. That is the worst Ireland game I have ever seen, and we made Scotland v Italy look good. During the first half I was going crazy with all the knock ons, many of them for no apparent reason. Ross was being beaten in the scrum, but Court got absolutely destroyed. I thought Northampton v Munster was bad, but the Irish scrum had no chance whatsoever. But you can't blame Court for the performance today. Yes he was useless today, but he is a decent loosehead. The real blame lies with the management and Kidney. He is turning this Irish team into a laughing stock. Why in the name of god did he bring on TOL just after half time?! Why not sub Darcy for McFadden, Sexton was having a grand game. I just can't see a future for this Irish team with Kidney at the head. With that rage out of the way, I have to see Fare play to England, particularly the Front Row and Morgan. Also congratulations to Wales.

March 18th, 2012, 12:34 PM	#112
JD47 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dublin Posts: 3,322 Likes (Received): 89	That was an awful result yesterday. I have ro say though that they deserved to lose. All week we have been cocky and saying how we are going to win this game. I think Kidney needs to go and we need someone else in. We have another year to do that now before the Six Nations begins in 2013. Something just is'nt right in that Ireland team. To many mistakes leads to to many defeats.

March 30th, 2012, 11:50 AM	#113
thebig C Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,030 Likes (Received): 13	Hahaha....boy did I get my above comment wrong. Thats the worst I have seen Ireland play in a long time! Pause for thought!!! Robinson has held on at Scotland but at least he could claim that the performances have improved if not the results. Lancaster was a shoo-in for the English job given what transpired. I still think Wales were the best by default. And also, I stand my my remarks that its a pity the Grand Slam was decided by a refereeing error. Oh well......I still have Leinster

March 30th, 2012, 10:39 PM	#115
Seravia Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 104 Likes (Received): 2	And Munster! Hoping the game tomorrow is going to be a cracker. I'm still hoping Munster can do it, but realistically we're missing our second row and scrum half. MoD and DoC should do a fine job in the 2nd row, but ToL could be the death of us. Earls versus O'Driscoll is going to be an interesting fight, as is the Backrow.