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Old March 11th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #81
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Did you see Pete Wylie down there GV?
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Old March 11th, 2012, 11:11 PM   #82
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Old March 11th, 2012, 11:13 PM   #83
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The following photos are from Upper Parliament St, which has the best examples of late Regency ironwork in the city.
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Old March 11th, 2012, 11:15 PM   #84
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Old March 11th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #85
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Old March 11th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #86
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In the 90s I think, Wylie fell through some railings into the cellar area in Upper Parly or Canning Street and broke his back.
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Old March 11th, 2012, 11:29 PM   #87
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Thanks Joe, i was expecting a send-up tbh. Btw Scarecrow, you were spot on about the warehouses at Miller's Bridge being cut down. I had a good look at them a few weeks ago. It must've been back in the 1920's, the next street south also had a huge range cut down back i sections at the same time. I'll post the photos later.
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Old March 11th, 2012, 11:32 PM   #88
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Old March 12th, 2012, 02:52 AM   #89
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Old March 12th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #90
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due to all too common burglaries. over here, in the Basque country, the railings would normally be solidly fitted to the ground and first floor windows
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Old March 12th, 2012, 09:01 PM   #91
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You do see that here occasionally, but luckily it isn't common practice. Just to add, bars on first floor windows, are thankfully, very rare here.

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Old March 12th, 2012, 09:02 PM   #92
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Plenty in Sydney I noticed.
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Old March 18th, 2012, 04:46 PM   #93
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The Last Remaining Court Dwelling in Liverpool

I only learnt of the existence of this building a few weeks ago. It is the only remaining court dwelling( or at least part of one) in the city. This type of housing was prevalent in the inner districts of the city up until the 1930's, when most were cleared and replaced with the municpal tenements, although some courts were still occupied up until the early 1960's.

The building is located in Pembroke Place, just up from the listed Galkoff's building, thankfully this court property is also listed, but only due to the perserverance of the conservation dept at the council. EH initially rejected the application to list, saying the site wasn't complete. It was only after the conservation dept called on an historian from the Georgian Group, who obviously put the building in its historic context did EH agree to list.
I've been very critical of the conservation dept's record of safeguarding our heritage in the past, but in this instance they've gone beyond their obligations to preserve and protect our historic fabric, good work.

The property is of little architectural significance, from a sociological perspective however, it's very important. Hundreds of thousands of Liverpudlians lived in this type of dwelling from the 1760's until the 1960's The erdaication of this type of housing was a progressive and humane policy.
It's easy to fall in to the trap of romantising this type of thing, for the people who lived in these places , they were far from that,unhygenic and undignified would be nearer the truth.

We are lucky in this city to have a fine legacy of Regency houses,despite the losses, we still have terrace after terrace of the residences of the rich.
However, fine buildings as they are, the twenty feet or so of back alley off Pembroke Place, is much more important than the grandest stucco fronted house or porticoed entrance of Rodney St or Canning, ....imo (pics to follow)
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Pembroke Place. Gallkoff's Butchers is just out of shot to the left. The gap between the buildings is the entrance to the court. There isn't any direct access, fortunately the Tailor whose premises are part of the court allowed me to climb onto the back wall. (the court entrance is the buildings with timber supports)
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Old March 18th, 2012, 08:08 PM   #96
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A blocked doorway can be seen here.
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Old March 18th, 2012, 08:13 PM   #97
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Very interesting GV. I wonder if in its heyday, it will have looked something like this:



If anything, this seems more spacious but you can see the number of people who would have lived in this sort of location and the communal privies.
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Old March 18th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #98
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Yes Martin, i'm not sure about 'hey day' but i know what you mean The early courts were the narrowest. I think a byelaw was passed in the 1840's stipulating the minimum width.
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Ashton St off Pembroke Place, part of the university.
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Old March 18th, 2012, 11:46 PM   #100
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It would be interesting to know how the architect justified that effect on the building gable ends - does it allow natural ventilation or natural lighting without direct sunlight or is this some marine biology school and the effect represents the scales of a fish? The problem for modern architects always seems to be how you ornament a building without seeming to do that.

I took this photo yesterday, of Drury House in Water Street, which looks to me to date from the 50s or early 60s. The architect has got round that problem by emphasising the staircase:

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