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Old February 7th, 2012, 10:42 AM   #21
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i also like the way they have broken up the windows to give the building a greater vertical emphasis... the current horizontal banding of the window makes the building look wider than necassery.

i also love the texture created by the cladding, homage to the cube in colour, but suitably subtle enough to be high quality but not soo overpowering it detracts from the station.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 11:02 AM   #22
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I have a feeling that the cladding will come out in a much harsher tones than the renders suggest. The contrasts between each cladding panel could end up looking more obvious than the subtle blend in the renders - something like the new Bournville College.

I'm warming to it but only slightly. This is undoubtedly a major project though - they're reconstructing and extending the facades on each side.

As for that Manchester one, if I've got the location correct, that's a really sad proposal. There are some lovely Victorian buildings on the site.

Also, what's this obsession with hotel names and brandings on this site all of a sudden?
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Old February 7th, 2012, 11:06 AM   #23
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well yes erebuss you are indeed correct... renders can only be taken at face value!

notwithstanding this, i still like it

yes the manchester hotel is on the site of a number of lovely buildings and aparently will also lead to the loss of a 'niche' gay venue!
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Old February 7th, 2012, 11:15 AM   #24
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This is the thread for the Manchester proposal. If you want to look at it.

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Old February 7th, 2012, 11:46 AM   #25
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All I have to say about this is, look how many people moaned and complained about the revised Hotel La Tour renders, now praising it! Even now I can say renders aren't always the best, especially when these guys have had to use the New Street renders to work on also.

If you ask me, its all about materials, if its Hotel La Tour materials, this could be a winner on top of the new station, better than what's on top of Stratford City haha.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #26
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I think it's awkward to show the metallic effect of the cladding, much like hotel la tour, from the renders the reflectiveness of the materials weren't shown well compared to in person
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Old February 7th, 2012, 07:45 PM   #27
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But does the Hotel la Tour have metallic effect cladding? I don't think it does.

And the cladding on here isn't really reflective, with the exception of the grey panels which will have a bit of a shimmer to them. I'm just worried the browner tones will come out looking even darker than we're expected and the overall blending effect doesn't look anywhere near as subtle as hoped.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 09:13 PM   #28
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And it sits awkwardly with the shiny New Street beneath. It's not very complimentary. Better than what's there now however but I'd only give it 4/10.
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Old February 8th, 2012, 02:06 AM   #29
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Hmm.. I'm uneasy with it. Perhaps if the cladding was more random and perhaps more grey/black/metallic in it's materials it probably sit better - but to be honest, this building sits like a sore thumb on the redevelopment, and the only way to make it settle in better with the 'new'New Street is to keep it simple and have just one good quality type cladding. That way it wouldn't perhaps clash so bad with the station.
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Old February 8th, 2012, 10:08 AM   #30
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this is the exact reaon i like it . at the end of the day, this building is never going to seemlessly integrate with the station building by virtue of if location and form. Even if you were to cladd is in the same cladding i think it would look wierd!

consequently, why not treat is different to the station building. so long as it is of a high enough quality and design, which if this was any other 1960's slab building in the city, many of us would be happy, then i am happy!
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I'd also add that I like that IMO it should just be quality infill as the Station and John Lewis are the bold statement buildings.
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Old February 8th, 2012, 06:04 PM   #32
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I like the look of this. There was no way this could easily be blended into the station so I think it's right that it's going for a contrasting look, whilst hopefully still blending into the background against the main event of the station. BUT the quality of materials with this is going to have to be very high. If they aren't it'll just stick out a mile as being a bad job. No building is going to be as closely contrasted to the new station cladding as this so it will really have to live up to expectations.
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I think it should look different to the station. The hotel itself is going to need an identity separate to the station so that visitors can notice it better.
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This is the thread for the Manchester proposal. If you want to look at it.

motel one clears twisted wheel venue

Big bulky New York or Chicago feel to the Manchester proposal!
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Old February 9th, 2012, 08:45 AM   #35
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If its in Manchester it has a big and bulky new York feel.

If built in Birmingham it is square boxy dull and uninspiring.

Whatever
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Old February 9th, 2012, 01:34 PM   #36
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The manchester one looks like a 60's throwback; i know vintage is in fashion, but steady on!

Is it new build or refurb?
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Old February 9th, 2012, 01:52 PM   #37
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the bham one is obviously a refurb, the manchester one a new build
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Old February 9th, 2012, 01:58 PM   #38
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I think this is all great, by 2015, we would actually have something totally different, all round! It would be like a new build to new visitors of Birmingham!
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Old February 10th, 2012, 02:59 AM   #39
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I know it's a bit different, but imo it would look cool as a clad-

http://www.raisethecloud.org/#gallery

I've made these bubbles before with acetone. Now the ones added to the buidling in place could be not for human use, just as a clad, but alternatively they could be bedrooms for a hotel. But that is with a budget of an arabian sheikh.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 03:41 PM   #40
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It looks like it's already been stripped out inside.
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