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sefton66 · October 15th, 2012, 10:51 PM

Guess this will just be a wait and see job, I believe the motel one in Manchester is due to start soon and think both apps went in around the same time so maybe we could we movement soon

Spread · October 17th, 2012, 10:07 AM

Article from Construction Enquirer which is interesting in what it doesn't say rather than what it does. Surely the Birmingham scheme is also ready to go very soon yet it is not even mentioned?:

Construction set to start on four Motel One schemes

German hotel operator Motel One is forging ahead with fast-track plans to build four new hotels in London, Manchester, Newcastle and Glasgow.

The German hotel operator has gained planning for a 14-storey hotel next to Piccadilly Station in Manchester as part of its rapid expansion plans in the UK.

Construction is now expected to start early next year, with Vinci and Galliford Try among those said to have submitted bids two months ago for the 330-room hotel.

In London, several contractors are in the race to secure the £20m contract to build a 300-room hotel at Fenchurch Street, with ISG and John Sisk among the firms bidding the job.

Developer Lugano Group has also received the green light from Newcastle city council to build a 222-bedroom hotel in the city centre High Bridge.

Several contractors, including McAleer & Rushe, Vinci, GB Building and McAlpine, are chasing the £10m building job, which is expected to get underway this year.

Developer Buccleuch Property has also submitted planning for a scheme in Glasgow, which will see a 374-bed hotel, bar and restaurant built in Argyll Street for a cost of around £20m.

Brum X · October 17th, 2012, 03:14 PM

Maybe its becouse ours is a building already there that is being redeveloped rather than a brand new building to be constructed ??????

Just a thought, however you would think that Birmingham would of been mentioned, after all there Motel One Birmingham is going to be above a famous shiny new train station/Shopping centre.

morestoreysplease · October 17th, 2012, 07:38 PM

I have noticed though that other Motel Ones seem to be bigger or taller than ours like @ 14 storeys....also the Hotel de la Tour in Manchester is planned @ 14 storeys too....
What is it with our seemingly "lower aspirations"?

Brum X · October 17th, 2012, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morestoreysplease

I have noticed though that other Motel Ones seem to be bigger or taller than ours like @ 14 storeys....also the Hotel de la Tour in Manchester is planned @ 14 storeys too....
What is it with our seemingly "lower aspirations"?

Well maybe Brum has finally realised that Bigger is not always best.

DBadger · October 17th, 2012, 08:19 PM

14 storeys, but with Ladywood's footprint which is actually bigger?

morestoreysplease · October 17th, 2012, 09:19 PM

It makes it worse to think we should have had a fully functioning skyscraper of a Westin Hotel by now - the first in England

Brum X · October 17th, 2012, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morestoreysplease

It makes it worse to think we should have had a fully functioning skyscraper of a Westin Hotel by now - the first in England

Dont even go there.

ReissOmari · October 17th, 2012, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morestoreysplease

It makes it worse to think we should have had a fully functioning skyscraper of a Westin Hotel by now - the first in England

If only

***woodhousen*** · October 17th, 2012, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morestoreysplease

What is it with our seemingly "lower aspirations"?

who exactly are you referring to here?

morestoreysplease · October 18th, 2012, 01:30 AM

The Royal Birmingham

***woodhousen*** · October 18th, 2012, 07:21 AM

come again, i dont understand?

ReissOmari · October 18th, 2012, 08:29 AM

Basically why do other cities get higher buildings etc. for the same companies they have smaller premisies in Birmingham, e.g. our Hotel La Tour is only what, 6 floors? Where as Manchester is 14.

***woodhousen*** · October 18th, 2012, 10:11 AM

really?!?!? that is your measure of success????

- La Tour opened its first EVER hotel in Birmingham, not any other city
- StayWell Hotels are opeing their first EVER hotel in EUROPE at fiveways
- Hotel Indigo (one of the most popular new chains of up market hotels in the UK) opens its FIRST hotel in Birmingham and is about to open its second in the city - unlike any other city

plus the fact that we have nearly 20 hotel proposals currently live or under construction in our city. apparently this isnt a meassure of success anymore and instead people in this forum and decided that you means success by how many floors a building has. I though this forum had matured past this point but alas it is depressing to see it decend back into the willy meassuring self depravating world of old... a great shame.

sefton66 · October 18th, 2012, 12:55 PM

Isn't this motel one larger bed wise though?

morestoreysplease · October 18th, 2012, 07:21 PM

It just make me laugh though that as a city it is a coup to get some of these proposals first before anyone else but why do we seem to get them at a second-rate level or we have to make some kind of compromise in the design stages?? Look at Hotel de la Tour, Radisson SAS. Why can't we get a great big f*** off hotel off the ground?? Where are our Broad Street monsters? Pillo went away and now the Edgbaston Double Tree is suspect.

sefton66 · December 8th, 2012, 08:17 PM

sorry to bump but looked into this one and its really confusing, we have two apps approved...

one for a motel one with the design posted at the start and the second for the app reiss mentioned,

Just looked through the D&A statement and whats confusing is that they don't mention an operator this time but instead have pictures of the interior with captions like "anticipated hotel operators" none of which match motel ones branding. Also says it will be a 4* hotel, I think motel one was due to be 3*?

D&A statement
http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/N...rod_DC_PLANAPP

Anyone recognise the interior shots as a particular brand? might be able to find out some more info then

ReissOmari · December 10th, 2012, 11:23 PM

I said this on the previous page, not quite sure what's going on, considering no work had happened as well.

JayPeeDee · December 11th, 2012, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sefton66

Anyone recognise the interior shots as a particular brand? might be able to find out some more info then

Looks like a Holiday Inn. They are 4*.

emiratesdxb · December 11th, 2012, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sefton66

sorry to bump but looked into this one and its really confusing, we have two apps approved...

one for a motel one with the design posted at the start and the second for the app reiss mentioned,

Just looked through the D&A statement and whats confusing is that they don't mention an operator this time but instead have pictures of the interior with captions like "anticipated hotel operators" none of which match motel ones branding. Also says it will be a 4* hotel, I think motel one was due to be 3*?

D&A statement
http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/N...rod_DC_PLANAPP

Anyone recognise the interior shots as a particular brand? might be able to find out some more info then

4.4 The hotel is in a highly sustainable location, in the heart of the City Centre and immediately
adjacent to main transportation nodes. In fact, the anticipated hotel operator is renowned for
locating their hotels at major railway stations and airports in order to support the travelling
business and leisure communities. It is very accessible by foot, public transport and car. It will
significantly enhance the range of accommodation available within the City Centre and also
support the Tourist and Business economy of Birmingham.

October 17th, 2012, 07:38 PM	#64
morestoreysplease Brummie Angeleno Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Birmingham UK, Los Angeles CA Posts: 6,668 Likes (Received): 19	I have noticed though that other Motel Ones seem to be bigger or taller than ours like @ 14 storeys....also the Hotel de la Tour in Manchester is planned @ 14 storeys too.... What is it with our seemingly "lower aspirations"? __________________ Birmingham - TheBigCityPlan.

October 17th, 2012, 08:19 PM	#66
DBadger culled Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wolverhampton, Greater Birmingham Posts: 5,679 Likes (Received): 406	14 storeys, but with Ladywood's footprint which is actually bigger? __________________ WOLVERHAMPTON *♣ DIRECT TRAINS TO LONDON AND TIPTON* ♣**

October 17th, 2012, 09:19 PM	#67
morestoreysplease Brummie Angeleno Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Birmingham UK, Los Angeles CA Posts: 6,668 Likes (Received): 19	It makes it worse to think we should have had a fully functioning skyscraper of a Westin Hotel by now - the first in England __________________ Birmingham - TheBigCityPlan.

October 18th, 2012, 01:30 AM	#71
morestoreysplease Brummie Angeleno Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Birmingham UK, Los Angeles CA Posts: 6,668 Likes (Received): 19	The Royal Birmingham __________________ Birmingham - TheBigCityPlan.

October 18th, 2012, 07:21 AM	#72
*woodhousen* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Leeds/Birmingham, UK Posts: 10,842 Likes (Received): 2	come again, i dont understand? __________________ Simply BIRMINGHAM

October 15th, 2012, 10:51 PM	#61
sefton66 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6,490 Likes (Received): 60	Guess this will just be a wait and see job, I believe the motel one in Manchester is due to start soon and think both apps went in around the same time so maybe we could we movement soon

October 17th, 2012, 10:07 AM	#62
Spread Brummie & Proud Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 1,647 Likes (Received): 33	Article from Construction Enquirer which is interesting in what it doesn't say rather than what it does. Surely the Birmingham scheme is also ready to go very soon yet it is not even mentioned?: Construction set to start on four Motel One schemes German hotel operator Motel One is forging ahead with fast-track plans to build four new hotels in London, Manchester, Newcastle and Glasgow. The German hotel operator has gained planning for a 14-storey hotel next to Piccadilly Station in Manchester as part of its rapid expansion plans in the UK. Construction is now expected to start early next year, with Vinci and Galliford Try among those said to have submitted bids two months ago for the 330-room hotel. In London, several contractors are in the race to secure the £20m contract to build a 300-room hotel at Fenchurch Street, with ISG and John Sisk among the firms bidding the job. Developer Lugano Group has also received the green light from Newcastle city council to build a 222-bedroom hotel in the city centre High Bridge. Several contractors, including McAleer & Rushe, Vinci, GB Building and McAlpine, are chasing the £10m building job, which is expected to get underway this year. Developer Buccleuch Property has also submitted planning for a scheme in Glasgow, which will see a 374-bed hotel, bar and restaurant built in Argyll Street for a cost of around £20m.

October 17th, 2012, 03:14 PM	#63
Brum X Brum X Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 3,969 Likes (Received): 16	Maybe its becouse ours is a building already there that is being redeveloped rather than a brand new building to be constructed ?????? Just a thought, however you would think that Birmingham would of been mentioned, after all there Motel One Birmingham is going to be above a famous shiny new train station/Shopping centre.

October 18th, 2012, 08:29 AM	#73
ReissOmari Birmingham - #1 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,930 Likes (Received): 53	Basically why do other cities get higher buildings etc. for the same companies they have smaller premisies in Birmingham, e.g. our Hotel La Tour is only what, 6 floors? Where as Manchester is 14. __________________ ReissOmari.. flickr flickr2

October 18th, 2012, 10:11 AM	#74
*woodhousen* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Leeds/Birmingham, UK Posts: 10,842 Likes (Received): 2	really?!?!? that is your measure of success???? - La Tour opened its first EVER hotel in Birmingham, not any other city - StayWell Hotels are opeing their first EVER hotel in EUROPE at fiveways - Hotel Indigo (one of the most popular new chains of up market hotels in the UK) opens its FIRST hotel in Birmingham and is about to open its second in the city - unlike any other city plus the fact that we have nearly 20 hotel proposals currently live or under construction in our city. apparently this isnt a meassure of success anymore and instead people in this forum and decided that you means success by how many floors a building has. I though this forum had matured past this point but alas it is depressing to see it decend back into the willy meassuring self depravating world of old... a great shame. __________________ Simply BIRMINGHAM

October 18th, 2012, 12:55 PM	#75
sefton66 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6,490 Likes (Received): 60	Isn't this motel one larger bed wise though?

October 18th, 2012, 07:21 PM	#76
morestoreysplease Brummie Angeleno Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Birmingham UK, Los Angeles CA Posts: 6,668 Likes (Received): 19	It just make me laugh though that as a city it is a coup to get some of these proposals first before anyone else but why do we seem to get them at a second-rate level or we have to make some kind of compromise in the design stages?? Look at Hotel de la Tour, Radisson SAS. Why can't we get a great big f*** off hotel off the ground?? Where are our Broad Street monsters? Pillo went away and now the Edgbaston Double Tree is suspect. __________________ Birmingham - TheBigCityPlan.

December 8th, 2012, 08:17 PM	#77
sefton66 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6,490 Likes (Received): 60	sorry to bump but looked into this one and its really confusing, we have two apps approved... one for a motel one with the design posted at the start and the second for the app reiss mentioned, Just looked through the D&A statement and whats confusing is that they don't mention an operator this time but instead have pictures of the interior with captions like "anticipated hotel operators" none of which match motel ones branding. Also says it will be a 4* hotel, I think motel one was due to be 3*? D&A statement http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/N...rod_DC_PLANAPP Anyone recognise the interior shots as a particular brand? might be able to find out some more info then

December 10th, 2012, 11:23 PM	#78
ReissOmari Birmingham - #1 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,930 Likes (Received): 53	I said this on the previous page, not quite sure what's going on, considering no work had happened as well. __________________ ReissOmari.. flickr flickr2

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