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Old February 7th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #1
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[NC] New Caledonia roads & highways





Noumea




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Old February 7th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #2
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It should be [F] rather than [NC] in the title.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #3
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Yeah, we already talk about the New Caledonian roads in France's road thread.

Besides, the flag at the beginning of this thread is politically charged, being the flag of the pro-independence parties, opposed by many people on the island. It would be like posting the flag of Sinn Fein in a Northern Irish thread.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #4
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Roads in New Caledonia

Total: 5.622 Km so divided: 2.270 in the South Province (Sud Province), 2.580 Km in the North Province (Nord Province) and 772 Km in the Loyauté Islands (Îles Loyauté). The road runs continuosly over the entire perimeter of the Grande Terre, at exception of the "côte oubliée" (it enters in Thio and exit in Yaté). Six roads cross the central part of the island (Chaîne centrale), from south to north Month-Doré-Yatè, Balouparis-Thio, La Foa-Kouaoua, Bourail-Houailou, Koné-Poindimié (the Koné-Tikawa) and Koumac-Ouégoa.

Type of roads
There are three types of road network in New Caledonia based in fuction of the community that owns it and therefore responsible for development and maintenance. "routes territoriales" (RT) belongs to New Caledonia, "routes provinciales" (RP) belongs to provinces and "voirie communale" under municipal supervision.

Routes territoriales

There are four routes territoriales, in total are 575 Km (10,2% of the total network). These are essential roards to connect North and South Provinces or regional infrastructures.
_ Route Territorial 1 (RT 1): is the longest and the oldest, with 401 Km. Extending from north to south along the west coast from Noumea to Koumac. The speed limit is 110 Km/h with portion of 90m/h and 70 km/h. 50 Km/h in urban areas
_ Route Territorial 2 (RT 2): it extends for 21 Km and it connects the two major infrastructures on Lifou island (l'île de Lifou) the port of Wei and the airport of Wanaham
_ Route Territorial 3 (RT 3): is the only one of the six roads that cross the island that belongs to the Territory. It starts from the RT 1 after the village of Bourail on the west coast and it ends in Houaïlou. It extends for 145 Km
_ Route Territorial 4 (RT 4): it's the shortest, just 8 Km, starting from the RT 1 after the village of Poya and connects the industrial port of Nepouì, on the west coast
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Yeah, we already talk about the New Caledonian roads in France's road thread.
As long as exist thread about Kosovo, Srpska Republika, Abhkazia.... why New Caledonia can't have own thread?
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It should be [F] rather than [NC] in the title.
Technically, NC is correct even if it not official. But neither CN (China) is official... NC is also in all New Caledonian license plates.
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Besides, the flag at the beginning of this thread is politically charged, being the flag of the pro-independence parties, opposed by many people on the island. It would be like posting the flag of Sinn Fein in a Northern Irish thread.
I've searched infos about the flag. This is what I found on Wikipedia: "Up to 2010, the only official flag of New Caledonia, an overseas territory of France, was the French tricolor. However, with the official adoption of the Kanak flag alongside the French tricolor in July 2010, New Caledonia has become one of the few countries or territories in world with two official national flags. French Prime minister François Fillon took part in a ceremony in Nouméa where the FLNKS flag was hoisted alongside the French tricolor, giving both flags official status". However these are political things in which i'm not interested, I'm not french or caledonian, I'm just interested in roads....
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Routes provinciales

The total lenght of routes provinciales is 778 Km (13,84% of the total road network). The largest network is in the northern province with 450 km, followed by the southern with 282 Km and the îles Loyauté with 44 Km

Province Nord
_ Route provinciale 1 Nord (RPN 1): is long 40 km and it extends the RT 1 which stops just after the village of Koumac, continuing north-westerly direction along the west coast to the village of Poum.
_ Route provinciale 2 Nord (RPN 2): usually called Koné-Tikawa is a cross road long 71 Km. It starts from the RT 1 in the west coast shortly before the village of Koné and it ends in Tikawa on the East Coast, between Poindimié and Touho. There it links the RT 3 up from the south-east, and the RPN 10 coming in from the northwest.
_ Route provinciale 3 Nord (RPN 3). is long 120 Km and starts from the junction with RT 3 Houaïlou running along the east coast to the border with southern province ending in Thio.
_ Route provinciale 5 Nord (RPN 5). is a cross section long 5 Km, between the towns Sarraméa and Canala (the border between the two provinces). It joins in the RPN 3.
_ Route provinciale 7 Nord (RPN 7) is the northermost of Grande Terre, long 55 Km. It starts from the RT 1 in Koumac on the west coast and ends in Pouébo on the east coast. There, it starts the RPN 10.
_ Route provinciale 8 Nord (RPN 8) starts from the RT 1 after Koumac and runs along the coast for 11 Km north-west to Paagoumène.
_ Route provinciale 10 Nord (RPN 10). is the longest provincial road in the north, with 132 Km. It starts from the junction with the Koné-Tikawa and RT 3 and it ends in Pouébo, which serves as main street. It's the only way in New Caledonia that has a river crossed by ferry, on the Ouaïème River by the village of Hienghene.
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Routes provinciales - Îles Loyauté
_ Route provinciale 1 (RP 1). It's on the Lifou island and starts from the RT 2 at the roundabout of Kumo, near the airport Wanaham and it ends at the wharf of the tribe Chepenehe in the west. It's approximately 10 Km long.
_ Route provinciale 2 (RP 2). It's on the Ouvea island and connects the two main infrastructures. long 13 Km, it starts from the Ouloup airport and goes to the wharf of the tribe of Wadrilla.
_ Route provinciale 3 (RP 3). It's on the Maré island. It's 23 Km long and connects La Roche airport in the northeast to Tadine in southwest.

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As long as exist thread about Kosovo, Srpska Republika, Abhkazia.... why New Caledonia can't have own thread?
Feel free to open a thread about each and every French region then. I'd like to see a thread about roads in Champagne-Ardennes.
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I've searched infos about the flag. This is what I found on Wikipedia: "Up to 2010, the only official flag of New Caledonia, an overseas territory of France, was the French tricolor. However, with the official adoption of the Kanak flag alongside the French tricolor in July 2010, New Caledonia has become one of the few countries or territories in world with two official national flags. French Prime minister François Fillon took part in a ceremony in Nouméa where the FLNKS flag was hoisted alongside the French tricolor, giving both flags official status". However these are political things in which i'm not interested, I'm not french or caledonian, I'm just interested in roads....
This is a controversial decision, and in any case the two flags should be shown, since that's the decision that was adopted by the authorities. Showing only one flag is taking sides.
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Feel free to open a thread about each and every French region then. I'd like to see a thread about roads in Champagne-Ardennes.
New Caledonia is not a french region, but a special collectivity in Pacific Ocean. (holding a referendum on independence between 2014 and 2018). Little bit different from Champagne-Ardennes....
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This may be a good criteria to decide what is a state and what isn't, plus this exception still under discussion. Beside that there can be more thread for a single state, like what as been done for the USA.
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This may be a good criteria to decide what is a state and what isn't, plus this exception still under discussion. Beside that there can be more thread for a single state, like what as been done for the USA.
I think that what is State is clear to everybody. The question here is another, that for somebody a territory shouldn't be considerated as "territory" in itself but a part not divisible of State. Just if we follow this theory, also shouldn't exist threads like Hong Kong, Macau, Abhkazia, Puerto Rico... I didn't see nobody to complain when I open the threed about Greenland, being however part of Denmark. In my opinion these are just political questions that has nothing to do with roads, especially speaking of territories that may have the same flag, but far thousands kilometers from each other
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New Caledonia is not a french region, but a special collectivity in Pacific Ocean. (holding a referendum on independence between 2014 and 2018). Little bit different from Champagne-Ardennes....
Wanna make a bet that New Caledonia will still be French in 2020, just like Champagne-Ardennes?
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I think that what is State is clear to everybody. The question here is another, that for somebody a territory shouldn't be considerated as "territory" in itself but a part not divisible of State.
We don't do politics here. The fact is we posted many pictures about New Caledonian roads in the [F] Motorways in France • Autoroutes de France thread already, in fact far more than you have posted here, so your thread is a bit pointless, or un cheveu sur la soupe as we say in French, even in New Caledonian French.
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Wanna make a bet that New Caledonia will still be French in 2020, just like Champagne-Ardennes?
For me it changes nothing, I'm italian, not french or caledonian

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We don't do politics here. The fact is we posted many pictures about New Caledonian roads in the [F] Motorways in France • Autoroutes de France thread already, in fact far more than you have posted here, so your thread is a bit pointless, or un cheveu sur la soupe as we say in French, even in New Caledonian French
Besides the fact that I just opened this thread that's why the pics are few, besides that I didn't look the french thread cause I wasn't interested in...at this point I ask moderators to decide if this thread has reason to exist or not. They are superpartes without political reasons. If they think that this shouldn't exist, they close...in the contrary, don't bemoan....
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besides that I didn't look the french thread cause I wasn't interested in...
Then perhaps you should have done it before opening this thread. Just a thought.

I guess I should open a thread about Sicilian roads without even looking at the Italian road thread...
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I think that what is State is clear to everybody. The question here is another, that for somebody a territory shouldn't be considerated as "territory" in itself but a part not divisible of State. Just if we follow this theory, also shouldn't exist threads like Hong Kong, Macau, Abhkazia, Puerto Rico... I didn't see nobody to complain when I open the threed about Greenland, being however part of Denmark. In my opinion these are just political questions that has nothing to do with roads, especially speaking of territories that may have the same flag, but far thousands kilometers from each other
I don't see the problem if there is a separate thread for New Caledonia (it's even better, it reduces confusion).

But just like Greenland with Danemark, [F] instead or together with [NC] would be more correct.
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I don't see the problem if there is a separate thread for New Caledonia (it's even better, it reduces confusion).

But just like Greenland with Danemark, [F] instead or together with [NC] would be more correct.
I marked Greenland with KN, following the list of international codes here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...stration_codes. The same I did for New Caledonia, according to this list
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