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Old January 28th, 2013, 11:19 AM   #741
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Gdansk in 1760s


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Gdansk in 1760s


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Gdansk in 1760s


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Gdansk in 1760s


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Gdansk in 1760s


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Gdansk in 1760s


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Gdansk in 1635 - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._J.Hoffman.jpg

Number of plots (properties) in Gdansk City Centre/Srodmiescie by year:
1806 - 5354 plots (it's roughly the number of properties built before partitions of Poland)
1939 - 6075 plots

Torun had 772 plots in 1815 and Elblag 2024.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:05 PM   #742
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"Gratia Dei" bell in St.Mary's Church


There are two bells in St.Mary's Church. Both of them were cast in 1970 by foundry Felczyński in Przemyśl. The larger one is called Gratia Dei, weighs 7850 kg, and sounds in nominal F sharp. The smaller bell is the so-called Ave Maria, weighs 2600 kg, and sounds in C sharp.

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Dziś mało który kościół ma zespół więcej niż dwóch dzwonów. Dawne gdańskie dzwony oddano w czasie wojny na przetopienie. Nieliczne, których nie zdążono przekształcić w pociski są dziś na wygnaniu w RFN. Z kościoła Mariackiego są to: Osanna (z 1632 r., bezcenna pamiątka żałoby po śmierci „Ojca Ojczyzny”, króla Zygmunta III) – w kościele św. Andrzeja w Hildesheimie – i Dominicalis (z 1719 r.) – w kościele Mariackim w Lubece, gdzie przekazano po wojnie także dwa dzwony: Tubę Domini (z 1564 r., przelany na nowo w 1740 r.) i Mały Dzwon z Maskami (z 1735 r.) – z naszego kościoła św. Jana. W Lubece są jeszcze dwa dzwony z gdańskiego kościoła Bożego Ciała, a w kościele Mariackim w Kassel dzwon z 1679 r. z kościoła św. Mikołaja. Wszystkie są określone jako depozyt (Leihgabe). Kiedy wrócą do Ojczyzny? Jeżeli będziemy czekać z założonymi rękami, nigdy ich nie odzyskamy. Za to gdy wrócą, będzie można wznowić dawne sposoby dzwonienia, a najbardziej uroczyste święta odzyskają historyczną oprawę.

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Old January 29th, 2013, 11:05 AM   #743
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The Small Mill after WW2


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Gnilna Street before WW2


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Kladki Street before WW2 and now (Old Suburb area )

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Old January 29th, 2013, 02:28 PM   #745
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Some of the photos taken during the reconstruction process...

Main Town Hall (Long Market)


Dluga Street


Gdansk in 1951 (the historic site is being rebuilt, 5 years after work had begun)
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Gdansk in 1952 (work in progress)
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Gdansk in 1955 (many buildings already reconstructed, 9 years after start of a project)
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Gdansk in the 70s
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Old January 29th, 2013, 05:53 PM   #746
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I hope they are going to fullfill these plans from 2004





Historical reconstruction of the Swietego Ducha street

The second stage of the reconstruction of the City will begin with the reconstruction of the Swietego Ducha street which will cover 28 parcels. The work will commence after completion of archaeological research, which have already begun and are financed by the city.



Street development projects carried out on the basis of archival materials from the collections of iconographic National Archives, the Library of Gdansk Academy of Sciences, an archive of Marburg, the act of the police building and private collections.

As of July 10, 2003, the last formal obstacle to the start of the second stage of the reconstruction of the City was removed. That day the reconstruction plan for the Central City, the most prestigious part of the city was passed.

The main intention behind this plan was to create a new investment areas, as one of the basic conditions of the City placed on the prestigious list of UNESCO World Heritage Sites. Establish a plan to allow the reconstruction of the area of ​​the City a total of about 190 houses, which will increase footprints in the area by about 15%.

The reconstruction is to take place with fundings from private investors. City joins the search for investors and the tenders will communicate to the individual plots. The city authorities assume the sale of several parcels, including one investor if he is interested.

Planned Chodowiecki House. During the post-war reconstruction of the City, the ongoing different than the current political and economic conditions, many items have been omitted essential for the development and activation of the district. This leaves full and consistent play, resulting in the Middle Ages, the town planning. Service Features resolved at this point, and reserves mieszkaniom field.

Street frontage of the new building. St. Spirit provides for restoration of 'benches meat "for the service functions. It is a place designated for stalls Gdansk craftsmen, merchants, artists and collectors. There will be also a place for small catering, tourist information, etc. will be played three of the four existing original rows of stalls, maintaining pedestrian crossing between ul. St. Spirit and Mary's. There will be able to find up to 51 stalls.

The remaining 27 buildings is expected to rise to B, dining, art galleries, currency exchange trade, etc.



The building at ul. St. Spirit of 54, together with the adjacent, number 53, will be used as museum about Daniel Chodowiecki, who lived in Gdansk, just down the street at number 54th
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That project is so friggin' awesome!

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Of course, it will be a great project if houses will be rebuilt to the pre-1793 appearance.

They shouldn't reconstruct this crap from the 19-20th century...

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Before WW2 and after reconstruction


Fortunately, all churches in the Old Town and Old Suburb areas have been nicely rebuilt.

Church in the 18th century


Katarzynka Street before WW2 and now (only church was reconstructed)

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The granary island.

Pre-war granaries


Should they be reconstructed? (Of course with modern interiors for all current needs (museums, apartments, hotels, offices, shops etc.))



Or should we end up with something like this?
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Granary Island in 1617


Granary Island in 1765


Stagiewna Gate (Granary Island) in 1790

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How about a full reconstruction? That'll fit in the area and will give the harbour a more beautiful look again.

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reconstructed and retrofitted granaries would be prime real estate ideal for lofts, prestigoius offices, high-tech incubators, boutique hotels, maybe a City of Gdansk Museum (not sure if there is one). they would sell out very fast.
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Andrzej Januszajtis: The Gdansk granaries - forbidden beauty

http://trojmiasto.gazeta.pl/trojmias...___piekno.html



I like to borrow the title of the album "Granaries of Gdańsk - the beauty of forgotten". Change the last word on the "forbidden" reflects a situation in which the person determining the shape of our city like the devil avoids "holy water" reconstruction, afraid of being accused of immoral desire to recreate the old beauty.

I am writing this after reading the information that conservation authorities have accepted the shape of the new building on the section of Green Bridge into the storehouse "Deo", proposed by a team of architects working for the investor. They haven´t noticed that this point of view of the Law on Protection of Monuments (Protection of Landscape in Monument History) vision is fraught with serious errors.

The most serious of these is failure to extremely important for the beauty of the Old Port on Motława spatial proportions and the adoption by the previous restorer too large maxima (ie elevation ridges), which unfortunately have not been informed about the council approved in the approved master plan. As a result, everything is at least one floor too high, and the ratio between the facades are changed to the detriment of the whole.

Examples? You're welcome.

The old granaries had a base of no more than five storeys peaks, while the proposed "vision" count six. The frontage of the former granary Will Head was one of the highest in the current vision of the design is the smallest! In addition, instead of restoring it to its former shape outside, the new chief conservator repeat the previous mistake: they accept the glass superstructure.

It may be recalled that the head is called the Will as of 1553, since 1423, has been owned by the family Winterfeldów, which include Godfrey came Lengnich eminent historian, teacher and tutor Stanisław August Poniatowski. Income from Wole's Head went to the maintenance of St. James in St. Mary's church, and the reformation of the education and charity.

Wide, 39 feet (11 m), with an attic has seven floors, serviced by four men. Before the last war, belonged to the Polish company Polryż. Destroyed in 1945, kept the walls and the facade, which is adorned with carved coat of arms (the head of an ox), banners, and a cartouche with the Latin inscription: "The duty Winterfeldów to the unknown successors of the ruins of the monument was raised and restored in 1759."

This valuable witness to history, should be rebuilt as a whole and not to frighten the immortalized forever as a ruin, with a deformed glass structure on top of it! We appreciate the effort the designers put into formal exterior differentiation, but it is impossible to answer the proposed team other than the mighty walls of overwhelming the delicate architecture of the Long Wharf beautifully rebuilt on the other side of the river. You can imagine the shock that affected our visitors, captivated by the beauty of the Long Market, when will come the Green Gate and will be faced with a big block, violently contrasting with what ever viewed.

Why destroy the effects of the reconstruction efforts, which brought us international recognition and attracts millions of tourists? What would happen wrong, we recreated the granaries in the external shape, and the "modern" treated only interruption between them? All planned features would still be possible, and the individual objects would gain additional historical value, which will undoubtedly increase their market value. Such a reconstruction would certainly be not as expensive (I suspect that even cheaper).

Why don´t we follow the example of cities such as Bergen, Norway, where the Hanseatic wooden granaries burned down in 1944 and were rebuilt in 1955 and was later included on the UNESCO World Heritage list? Reconstructed Bryggen - one of the biggest tourist attractions in Europe - brings millions in profits.

Is our bristling with shiny glass sheets and the other side of the Old Port on Motława such interest will be aroused? This architecture is impressive in places, but empty and soulless, devoid of depth and mystery associated with the history. Will it be harder to attract tenants apartments and flats? Personally, I doubt it.

Wasting chances, hidden in history, carried by the old shapes and - not least - the old names. Will names like Head, Car Fire, Four Knights, Black Cross, Madonna, Black Hens, etc. are of interest and attract extraordinary. This marketing promotion, which no sophisticated vision is no substitute. This has been for a long time understood in other cities with profitable Islands Tradition (loacations) such as Boston, Chicago, Liverpool and many other places in the world. Our investors have yet to discover it.
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A bit of history...

For the first time the name of the city ("urbem Gyddanzyc") appears in the "Life of St.Adalbert", written in 999 and describing events of 997.


That's why in 1997 Gdansk celebrated 1000 years of recorded history.

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Some historical reconstructions from the 90s (Stagiewna Street)


And 20 years later ("Kwartal Kamienic", modern architecture)


Some reconstructed granaries


And modern architecture ("Aura Island")

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Gdansk in 1765


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One of the last coins made by Gdansk (Gedan) mint before Second and Third Partitions of Poland (the city was annexed by "German" Prussia in 1793).

The coin was minted during the reign of Polish king Stanisław August Poniatowski (who by the way spent the first few years of his childhood in Gdansk).

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reconstructed and retrofitted granaries would be prime real estate ideal for lofts, prestigoius offices, high-tech incubators, boutique hotels, maybe a City of Gdansk Museum (not sure if there is one). they would sell out very fast.
Really? It's not like these will be old buildings retrofitted with modern amenities. Either way, a more authentic reconstruction and one with a more modern interpretation will result in the same: a modern interior.
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"Zieleniak" from 1971 (I hope it will be renovated and lowered, because it spoils the panoramic view of the Old Town)

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