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Old April 2nd, 2015, 03:09 PM   #1161
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Old June 13th, 2015, 10:45 AM   #1162
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6 houses to be rebuilt along Sw.Ducha street...



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Old June 13th, 2015, 05:43 PM   #1163
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would love to live in a place like that.
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Old June 13th, 2015, 07:00 PM   #1164
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Wow, Gdansk reconstructing buildings again, great to see that!

Such a row of houses wasn't reconstructed for for quite some time, was it? Any more such projects?
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Old June 13th, 2015, 07:09 PM   #1165
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Good to see old houses being rebuild. Postmodernism does not belong to the inner core, but a kilometer away
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Old June 14th, 2015, 09:46 AM   #1166
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Ciekawostka - rzuty elewacji pierzei do rekonstrukcji na ul. św. Ducha. Opracowanie - S. Michel.

1. Część z Ławami Mięsnymi + trzy kamieniczki do ul. Krowiej. To miało być najpierw odbudowane, ale jak wiemy inwestor = bankrut, potem dziura wstydu przez kilka lat, a teraz Rada Dzielnicy Śródmieście próbuje nieudolnie zagospodarować ten teren na tymczasowy skwerek.



2. Ta część jest obecnie najbliższa do realizacji - 6 kamieniczek na wschód od Krowiej ma być wsniesiona przez inwestora z Banina. Przeprowadzono badania archeo, trwa projektowanie. Ciekawe na ile projekt będzie zbliżony do tego co widzimy na tych rzutach. Zakładając, że Michel skopiował przedwojenną dokumentację, a obowiązujący MPZP nakazuje rekonstrukcję, to projekt inwestycji powinien być w miarę tożsamy. Choć w jakimś ostatnim artykule przebąkiwano o "współczesnych wstawkach na miejscu mniej wartościowych kamienic" - tylko jak się ma to do ustaleń MPZP?



3. Dalsza część pierzei do ul. Mokrej.


4. Początek odcinka między Mokrą a Mydlarską.


5. Koniec do ul. Mydlarskiej.
Some of these houses could be rebuilt along Sw.Ducha street in future...
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Old June 14th, 2015, 11:35 PM   #1167
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these two are exactly the same block. the concept above referred to the pre-Prussian period (based on 18/19 c. engravings, including Chodowiecki and Schultz) while the new one reconstructs the inter-war layout.


the project below is not very likely to restart since the bankruptcy of the plot owner. after a few years the site was eventually abandoned, the excavations filled and the fences removed. the area hosts temporary exhibitions or art-interventions from time to time now.



...and yes. there are some other reconstructions or (call them) re-creations planned for near future, one of them being this granary (or its facade, to be more precise) - The Long Way or Daleka Droga at the very tip of the Granary Island.

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Old July 19th, 2015, 11:20 PM   #1168
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In a potential reconstruction of the whole city, would you guys support the "correction" of the reconstruction that was done after WW2? We have technology which can help us to discover how some houses that were replaced by "neo-historical" or how should I call them looked like before the war or even before the German rule. I think it would be a good idea as some ornated houses were replaced by much simpler ones.
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Old July 20th, 2015, 12:42 PM   #1169
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i think some of you might find this one interesting: an intact medieval street partially revealed next to st. John's.

http://www.trojmiasto.pl/wiadomosci/...y-n92581.html#
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Old July 20th, 2015, 07:44 PM   #1170
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In a potential reconstruction of the whole city, would you guys support the "correction" of the reconstruction that was done after WW2? We have technology which can help us to discover how some houses that were replaced by "neo-historical" or how should I call them looked like before the war or even before the German rule. I think it would be a good idea as some ornated houses were replaced by much simpler ones.
Taking into account that in 1950s Polish community of reconstructors was among the best in the world and now... well, one can see... I really wouldn't tamper with old reconstruction, even though some of them might be controversial or unsatisfactory.

Additionally the errors or assumptions made during reconstruction are becoming themselves of historical value
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Old July 21st, 2015, 10:39 PM   #1171
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Taking into account that in 1950s Polish community of reconstructors was among the best in the world and now... well, one can see... I really wouldn't tamper with old reconstruction, even though some of them might be controversial or unsatisfactory.

Additionally the errors or assumptions made during reconstruction are becoming themselves of historical value
Yeah, the reconstruction was amazing, but the flaws of it are still bugging me. I don't know if I would support the "rewritting" of it because it was still a big achievement after the war that practically destroyed Poland, but I would still think that through.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 06:02 PM   #1172
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Old October 12th, 2015, 08:34 PM   #1173
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So lovely.
I wish Gdansk would continue building in this style.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 08:39 PM   #1174
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I hope someone buys the ground and construct these six white and grey houses mentioned above on this page. Any news on them?
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Old October 12th, 2015, 10:54 PM   #1175
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Are those reconstructions of prewar buildings or postmodern buildings?
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Old October 13th, 2015, 11:08 AM   #1176
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Are those reconstructions of prewar buildings or postmodern buildings?
Does it have to be one or the other?

It's not because it's not a reconstruction (wich I don't know if it is) that it's postmodern.

Isn't postmodern more like a architecturestyle and these buildings don't seem postmodern to me.

I would describe them as new buildings build in the old style. (is it renaissance?)
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it's neither postmodern nor reconstruction. it's cheap fairytale fantasy aka crap.
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Don't you act so hostile. What's cheap about those buildings? Actually they are made from genuine brickwork and the paintjob and proportions look really good. I'm just a little irritated about the two left buildings' ground floors with that unusually large passage and the somewhat strange lower 'postmodern' ornamental feature of the red building.

But all in all, these are very welcome New Classical buildings that adapt well to their old town surroundings! Take off your ideology glasses everyone, this is solid architecture that will last much longer than some modernist or postmodern experiment in this location would.

And btw, if these are called "fairytale fantasy crap" buildings, then pretty much most of Gdansk's/Danzig's old town is, as a large portion of it was rebuilt with simplified classical style gable houses that never stood there, neither in German nor Polish times.
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Old October 13th, 2015, 01:43 PM   #1179
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New Classical for Gdansk!

The construction of classical architecture never ceased, it always continued! It's just some ideological people who tried to make us think it's somehow disgraceful/tasteless/revisionist to do it, while most of mankind loves this kind of architecture and some of the most progressive and developped countries in the world (including USA, UK) continue to build a lot in classical styles, especially for their academic buildings/campuses, downtown developments and private homes. In the end, beauty and timeless architecture always wins. There's more than enough room for experiments outside of old towns and classical ensembles, which largely generate their charme from being homogenous, harmonious and picturesque.

I think Gdansk/Danzig should build much more buildings in New Classical styles or reconstruct valuable lost facades, there's so much to gain and nothing to lose. This is an outstanding row of new buildings:

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You're sure it's completed in 2015?
I was there last year and i thought it was already there and finished.
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