Hakuna Matata lounge

[Uhuru na Umoja]

Originally Posted by xJamaax

I agree, I think we should get a mod here!

By the way, are you forgetting the Brits took Tanzania after WW1?The Germans had already decided an African language should be used instead of German.

.....kenya has nothing origin, everything about you gays its foreign.! kill yourself with your JELAZ!

[xJamaax]

Originally Posted by Uhuru na Umoja

you are such a fool....swahili was just used by german as an administrative language and never national languge, it was Julius Nyerere made a national language. what do you know? can you teach as our mother tongue?? you can talk of your tribalist languages but not swahili...

Swahili was instituted to you by colonialists and here you are boasting about it?

You should have come up with something unique "made in Tanzania" and not something that had colonial links and roots.

[xJamaax]

Originally Posted by Uhuru na Umoja

.....kenya has nothing origin, everything about you gays its foreign.! kill yourself with your JELAZ!

Our languages that you call tribalistic are pure African, that's the difference and like yourselves, we use English because of colonial history.

Swahili was instituted by colonialists and English was instituted by colonialists. You dont have anything to boast about my friend.

If you are great, you should have come up with something unique with no colonial links. Why couldn't you do that?

[xJamaax]

Originally Posted by Uhuru na Umoja

.....kenya has nothing origin, everything about you gays its foreign.! kill yourself with your JELAZ!

You are proud of a colonial language?

[bantugbro]

Kenyan folks pls show respect or go back to your subforum, we dont want to come over there and reciprocate this rubish!

[kijan]

This is difficult, Swahili was instituted by colonialists for both countries, and there is no copyright on the phrase which was coined in a language adopted by for us by our colonial masters.

[mwanamwiwa]

Originally Posted by bantugbro

Kenyan folks pls show respect or go back to your subforum, we dont want to come over there and reciprocate this rubish!

The slogan remains a Kenyan right.

[Uhuru na Umoja]

Originally Posted by xJamaax

You are proud of a colonial language?

English is a colonial language cause they brought it from europe, swahili is never colonial language, people were speaking swahili before colonial period....for them to use it as an administrative language doesnt make swahili their's, only the spread of kiswahili has an influence colony and not the language itself a colonial. they didnt bring it from German they found it here and used it.

your teachers at school must have gone through a very rough time with you, I think this is a reason why, Kenyans cant get along with Kenyans...The luo, kelenji, Kikuyu, kamba and many other tribes due to your poor understanding of national identity....though you must have been taught a lot of tribal issues.

[Uhuru na Umoja]

Originally Posted by Uhuru na Umoja

hen Kenya's Minister of Education Sam Ongeri recently lamented the poor performance of primary school pupils in national examinations of Kiswahili, and ordered an investigation into the matter, it was reminiscent of an oft-quoted saying in East Africa: www.afroarticles.com

A primary school child in eastern Kenya will eat boiled maize for lunch, and it might be the only decent meal he has, for all the time he is in primary school-- of boiled maize mixed with beans. This dual incentive to get on in life, and to have a full stomach, doesn't exist in Tanzania and Uganda. In Uganda, the lazy, the enterprising, the not-so-poor, and the rich all tend to go to bed well fed on something. It is the closest to an equal-dinner-eating-opportunity country in the region.

"Tanzanians are the kings and queens of Kiswahili" allafrica.com/stories

[mwanamwiwa]

Originally Posted by Uhuru na Umoja

these are your opinions, we can not entertain these kenyan fools....and you cant see us on their sub-forum, we use our language and start a thread "hakuna matata" the said its their slogan from when? do they even know how to speak swahili, wewe hawa wadwanzi sio wakuwaangalia wanaharibu kila kitu tunachanzisha, sasa kama wewe utacheza nao ni wewe but sisi tutawapa kubwa all the time.

for years they have been cheating the world that mountain kilimanjaro is their's.

Originally Posted by Geza Ulole

Kenya has for the last four decades enjoyed a unique global status as the homeland of celebrated words and phrases, some of which have become the face of tourism in the world.
The words, most of which have Swahili origin, have been embraced in all corners of the world. Mention words like hakuna matata, jambo, safari, nyama choma and harambee across the world and immediately Kenya comes to mind.
Nyama choma is among the attraction South Africa is touting ahead of the World Cup.

[Uhuru na Umoja]

Originally Posted by mwanamwiwa

Originally Posted by xJamaax

You are proud of a colonial language?

English is a colonial language cause they brought it from europe, swahili is never colonial language, people were speaking swahili before colonial period....for them to use it as an administrative language doesnt make swahili their's, only the spread of kiswahili has an influence colony and not the language itself a colonial. they didnt bring it from German they found it here and used it.

your teachers at school must have gone through a very rough time with you, I think this is a reason why, Kenyans cant get along with Kenyans...The luo, kelenji, Kikuyu, kamba and many other tribes due to your poor understanding of national identity....though you must have been taught a lot of tribal issues.

[bantugbro]

There is nothinng to argue about!
Lets respect Geza's wishes and use Kiswahili
in this thread!
Leta majamboz!

[mwanamwiwa]

Close this thread and leave Kenya(n) slogans alone.

[xJamaax]

Originally Posted by Uhuru na Umoja

English is a colonial language cause they brought it from europe, swahili is never colonial language, people were speaking swahili before colonial period....for them to use it as an administrative language doesnt make swahili their's, only the spread of kiswahili has an influence colony and not the language itself a colonial. they didnt bring it from German they found it here and used it.

your teachers at school must have gone through a very rough time with you, I think this is a reason why, Kenyans cant get along with Kenyans...The luo, kelenji, Kikuyu, kamba and many other tribes due to your poor understanding of national identity....though you must have been taught a lot of tribal issues.

Which means, it's the colonialist (Germans) had decided what your language of instruction would be and not a typical Tanzanian.

Like, I told you, you need to come up with something unique on your own and not boast about something introduced by colonialists. It's because of them that you use this language, you did not come up with it on your own.

That's why I refer to it as a colonial language due to the colonial links it has.

It was just instituted so that you dont have access to the German language and their way of doing things so that they peacefully exploit you with no agitations that happened in many other colonies.

Therefore, the fact that Tanzania uses Swahili is mainly due to the colonial aspect of it rather than them having achieved something on their own.


I think this is my last point with you.I am tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.

[Uhuru na Umoja]

Originally Posted by bantugbro

There is nothinng to argue about!
Lets respect Geza's wishes and use Kiswahili
in this thread!
Leta majamboz!

shwari....kitambo hatuja wasiliana..dah! niko bize sana maana mpaka sasa niko mzigoni na nitakuwepo sana....inanishinda hata kusoma. Kila nikiingia hawa mafala wako huku na kule na wanaongea sana but nafikiri ni wivu.

wana wivu na sisi sana.

[Uhuru na Umoja]

Originally Posted by xJamaax

Which means, it's the colonialist (Germans) had decided what your language of instruction would be and not a typical Tanzanian.

Like, I told you, you need to come up with something unique on your own and not boast about something introduced by colonialists. It's because of them that you use this language, you did not come up with it on your own.

That's why I refer to it as a colonial language due to the colonial links it has.

It was just instituted so that you dont have access to the German language and their way of doing things so that they peacefully exploit you with no agitations that happened in many other colonies.

Therefore, the fact that Tanzania uses Swahili is mainly due to the colonial aspect of it rather than them having achieved something on their own.


I think this is my last point with you.I am tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.

they used it for administrative purposes only and never made it a national language; IT WAS JULIUS NYERERE MADE IT NATIONAL LANGUAGE AND NATIONAL IDENTITY. we understand kenyans want to frustrate us due to JELAZ. we will just ignore you from now own.

[Mintali]

What is jelaz

[xJamaax]

Originally Posted by Uhuru na Umoja

they used it for administrative purposes only and never made it a national language; IT WAS JULIUS NYERERE MADE IT NATIONAL LANGUAGE AND NATIONAL IDENTITY. we understand kenyans want to frustrate us due to JELAZ. we will just ignore you from now own.

What's really jealous to be about it? We have never been jealous, only showing you we are ahead economically backed by facts.

English is not our national language but one of our two official languages.

My point was, you don't have to boast about something that has colonial roots. In this case there was much colonial involvement into you using Swahili and which you did not seem to recognize.

You should have come up with something new and unique to Tanzania in order to boast like this.

[musiccity]

So much for Hakuna Matata!

[TZBoy]

Originally Posted by musiccity

So much for Hakuna Matata!

+100 respect Geza's decision to open this thread, he used a Kiswahili term which I last checked is the national language of Tanzania and it is NOT a Kenyan term. This is getting old and let us keep this civil. I don't mind Kenyans visiting the forum only if constructive opinions are given and no bashing of Tanzania