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Old February 25th, 2012, 03:51 AM   #21
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I knew that the statsistics of Tourism ministry included that. But I didn't know even Euromonitor didnt bother to adjust that. There is no use putting those stats, without adjusting it.
Every state/country has its own share of diaspora visitors, why is that a problem ? Don't they stay in hotels, restaurants visit places and spend money in our country.

How does it make the visitor different class?
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Old February 25th, 2012, 04:01 AM   #22
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It is not a problem definitely. It can definitely be included in air traffic statstics (which may be used for planning the airport)

When pubishing tourist traffic specifically, it is better not to include that. It may give wrong information to people unnecessarily. It does not serve any purpose.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 06:28 AM   #23
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It is not a problem definitely. It can definitely be included in air traffic statstics (which may be used for planning the airport)

When pubishing tourist traffic specifically, it is better not to include that. It may give wrong information to people unnecessarily. It does not serve any purpose.
Many of them are tourists too? So I dont find anything wrong with that unless they have permanent residence in India. In most of Malaysia or Singapore or Srilankan citizens they won't have much roots in India (4th generation in Malayasia andSingapore and 20th generation with Srilanka)
So Can we ignore Guyana, South Africa and Pakistan and Bangaladesh visitors to India also count only who has white or yellow skin?
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Old February 25th, 2012, 06:58 AM   #24
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I dont mean that. Dont try to make me look a racist. That "many of them" is really subjective. Some of the business travellers are tourists too. So will they start including those coming with work permit. If they dont have exact figures, they shouldn't publish or give a rider with astericks. That is it. Hope I am clear. Now, most of the people who see this stats will believe Chennai and Mumbai are bigger (or as big) toursit hotspots than Delhi. And sometimes use it to brag too.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 07:03 AM   #25
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I dont mean that. Dont try to make me look a racist. That "many of them" is really subjective. If they dont have exact figures, they shouldn't publish or give a rider with astericks. That is it. Hope I am clear. Now, most of the people who see this stats will believe Chennai and Mumbai are bigger (or as big) toursit hotspots than Delhi. And sometimes use it to brag too.
Exactly, that is the general impression which is conveyed when you hear about ‘foreign’ tourists.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 09:40 PM   #26
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I dont mean that. Dont try to make me look a racist. That "many of them" is really subjective. Some of the business travellers are tourists too. So will they start including those coming with work permit. If they dont have exact figures, they shouldn't publish or give a rider with astericks. That is it. Hope I am clear. Now, most of the people who see this stats will believe Chennai and Mumbai are bigger (or as big) toursit hotspots than Delhi. And sometimes use it to brag too.
That is truth why deny it? no body can brag about anything
I don't think any tourist look at these euro monitor to decide where to go
Its more or less based on marketing and knowledge they have
For India, Golden Triange (Delhi-Jaipur-Agra), TN Temples, Goa and Kerala were traditional tourist hotspots. Landing in 70% of the tourists land either in Mumbai or Delhi.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 10:20 PM   #27
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IMO more diaspora visitors visit the interior places instead of just sticking to the regular cities and the regular tourist spots. In a way that works out even better for Indian economy.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 11:43 PM   #28
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We discussed this its Tamil diaspora with nonindian passports visiting tn for cultural adn business (Lanka, Malaysia and Singapore )
R2IChennai:

For your info. a significant % of the Delhi tourist entries are the Punjabi traffic from Canada and the UK, with these nations' passports. Lets call this the Punjabi/Northie diaspora.

For Bombay, we have the Gujju and Maharashtrian diaspora which forms a significant % of tourist entries, and they are from from UK, East Africa, Canada, etc.

So why the heck do we harp on the Tamil diaspora (foreign passport holders) putting Chennai on top of the heap? Admit it dammit - Chennai is great!

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Old February 26th, 2012, 08:44 AM   #29
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CLASSIFICATION OF FTAs IN INDIA ACCORDING TO PURPOSE OF VISIT, 2010
Country of FTAs Business & Leisure, Visiting Medical Others
Nationality (Numbers) |Professional| Holiday | Friends | Treatment | Others

Canada 242372 13.0 18.0 49.8 0.4 18.8
USA 931292 19.1 13.1 47.1 0.2 20.5
Total 1173664 18.1 13.8 47.5 0.3 20.3

On an average in india 30% of the tourist are coming for business purpose, 30% for lesiure and 40 % to meet their relatives and treatment. I will try to put the full report when I get time.

Anyone who travels is a tourist. In that criteria statistically TN may have highest tourist (domestic+international). But if it is looked up on as for lesiure and foreign tourist things will be different and may not well relate to local tourism. Mumbai, delhi, kolkata and chennai serves huge region outside their states due to flight connectivity and cheaper options.
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Old February 26th, 2012, 10:45 AM   #30
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That is truth why deny it? no body can brag about anything
I don't think any tourist look at these euro monitor to decide where to go
Its more or less based on marketing and knowledge they have
For India, Golden Triange (Delhi-Jaipur-Agra), TN Temples, Goa and Kerala were traditional tourist hotspots. Landing in 70% of the tourists land either in Mumbai or Delhi.
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IMO more diaspora visitors visit the interior places instead of just sticking to the regular cities and the regular tourist spots. In a way that works out even better for Indian economy.
Let us agree to disagree. In that case, the report should be titled as "number of arrival of foreign nationals". It should not be called as statistics, if it considers "many of them " are tourists too. It should be called as estimate and the procedure for estimation should be published just like GDP estimates(what percentage of the diaspora visitors are considered as tourists).

I am sure that visitors with work permit are not considered here. I know many foreign models in Bandra/ Lokhandwala visiting more places in India than I ever would visit in my lifetime. They come here on work permit for 3-6 months.Every visit to India by a foreign national, whether it is related to tourism or business or any other pupose, would help Indian economy. There is no arguments there.

As far as the other comment on Bombay and Delhi getting diaspora visitors, I was exactly saying the same thing. It has to be adjusted for all cities. If adjusted, Agra and Jaipur will be just behind Delhi. Chennai,Goa, Bombay and Kerala may be pretty close to each other. I am aware that the temples and monuments in Chennai /TN get many foreign "tourists".

My last comment on this subject.

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Old February 26th, 2012, 10:21 PM   #31
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I agree with R2IChennai and Karkal even Indian disapora people who are foreigners dont have much root in India stay in good hotels and spend lot of money visiting interior places.
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Old February 26th, 2012, 11:09 PM   #32
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Ministry of Tourism statistics - 2009-2010

Foreign Tourist Arrivals by Mode of Transport (Percentage)
i) Air 91.8
ii) Land 7.5
iii) Sea 0.7

Foreign Tourist Arrivals by Port of Entry (Numbers in million and Percentage share)
i) Delhi (Airport) 1.99(34.4%)
ii) Mumbai (Airport) 1.18(20.5%)
iii) Chennai (Airport) 0.62(10.7%)
iv) Bangalore (Airport) 0.37(6.5%)
v) Haridaspur (Land Check post) 0.24(4.2%)
vi) Kolkata (Airport) 0.21(3.7%)
vii) Dabolim-Goa (Airport) 0.17(3.0%)
viii) Hyderabad (Airport) 0.17(2.9%)
ix) Trivandrum (Airport) 0.12(2.0%)
x) Cochin (Airport) 0.11(1.9%)
xi) Others 0.60(10.2%)
xii) All Ports 5.78(100.0%)

Foreign Tourist Arrivals From Top 15 Markets (Numbers in million and percentage share)
i) U.S.A. 0.931(16.12%)
ii) UK 0.759(13.15%)
iii) Bangladesh 0.432(7.48%)
iv) Sri Lanka 0.266(4.61%)
v) Canada 0.242(4.20%)
vi) Germany 0.228(3.94%)
vii) France 0.225(3.90%)
viii) Malaysia 0.179(3.10%)
ix) Australia 0.170(2.94%)
x) Japan 0.168(2.91%)


STATE/UT-WISE DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN TOURIST VISITS, 2009- 2010

State/UT, FTV, % growth

Maharashtra 5,083,126 (109.5)
TN 2,804,687 (18.4)
Delhi 1,893,650 (-3.3)
UP 1,675,123 (8.1)
Rajasthan 1278523 (19.1)
WB 1,192,187 (1.0)
Kerala 659,265 (20.1)
Bihar 635,722 (50.3)
HP 453,616 (13.2)
Goa 441,053 (17.1)
Karnataka 380,995 (16.5)
AP 322,825 (-59.4)
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 11:04 AM   #33
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Where I can find the statistics of Feb 2012
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Old April 17th, 2012, 02:29 PM   #34
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The growth in domestic traffic has declined drastically to 1.1% in March 2012 (from 10% in previous 2 months and 15% in the previous year), as expected.

http://www.dgca.nic.in/reports/pass-ind.htm
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 12:32 PM   #36
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Old July 19th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #37
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The domestic air traffic in June declined 3.4% year-on-year. This is the first month , capacity had declined year-on-year for the first time. KF's collapse will lead to further decline in demand and capacity.

http://dgca.nic.in/reports/rep-ind.htm
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