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Old March 20th, 2012, 08:33 PM   #21
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Alright, if you consider Iran not in the Middle East fine. Let's be more general so we can include all of that area of the planet.......all Muslim countries.
There is not a Muslim country on this planet that has any form of functioning democratic government which respects the equality of all.
You can agree or disagree with that statement but it doesn't change the fact that it's true.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 09:13 PM   #22
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Alright, if you consider Iran not in the Middle East fine. Let's be more general so we can include all of that area of the planet.......all Muslim countries.
There is not a Muslim country on this planet that has any form of functioning democratic government which respects the equality of all.
You can agree or disagree with that statement but it doesn't change the fact that it's true.
True.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 10:32 PM   #23
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Alright, if you consider Iran not in the Middle East fine. Let's be more general so we can include all of that area of the planet.......all Muslim countries.
There is not a Muslim country on this planet that has any form of functioning democratic government which respects the equality of all.
You can agree or disagree with that statement but it doesn't change the fact that it's true.
that is true , however its 180 degrees different to what u first claimed

but i still dont get your point,

its not like we dont know this
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Old March 20th, 2012, 11:00 PM   #24
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Alright, if you consider Iran not in the Middle East fine. Let's be more general so we can include all of that area of the planet.......all Muslim countries.
There is not a Muslim country on this planet that has any form of functioning democratic government which respects the equality of all.
You can agree or disagree with that statement but it doesn't change the fact that it's true.
after this regim is gone islam will be kicked out of iran to where it came from, and oh my god genius did you come up with all you said yourself ?! Iran is a great country we have been fighting for democracy for two hundred years, democracy will come to iran pretty soon.
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Old March 21st, 2012, 05:12 AM   #25
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Ignore the troll, he has obviously been mishandled by someone.
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Old March 21st, 2012, 06:55 AM   #26
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Stay on topic gentlemen.
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Old March 24th, 2012, 04:32 AM   #27
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Human rights in Iran seems to be better than other countries nearby.

Young people seem to have more freedom interacting between different sexes.

Again this is based on what I see on media though. Anyone can confirm this?
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Old March 24th, 2012, 05:34 AM   #28
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Human rights in Iran seems to be better than other countries nearby.

Young people seem to have more freedom interacting between different sexes.

Again this is based on what I see on media though. Anyone can confirm this?
human rights in iran is not much better or worse than maybe saudi arabia, however irans lack of rights seems to be more systematic
for politicals its even worse worse though

about the other part: by law, interaction between sexes isnt liked but due to the general social attitude and culture of the people much of these issues are ok and people have no problem with them, because the people are tolerant and kind amd open minded than the system, the people's culture is very different than what the government forces, this is what differentiates iran and some of its neighbors
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Old March 24th, 2012, 11:09 AM   #29
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human rights in iran is not much better or worse than maybe saudi arabia, however irans lack of rights seems to be more systematic
for politicals its even worse worse though

about the other part: by law, interaction between sexes isnt liked but due to the general social attitude and culture of the people much of these issues are ok and people have no problem with them, because the people are tolerant and kind amd open minded than the system, the people's culture is very different than what the government forces, this is what differentiates iran and some of its neighbors
Well said.

From what i've heard the government is more liberal now than it was under Khomenei's era. Is this true? lol
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Old March 24th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #30
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yea, since they were new in power, they really wanted to have a grip, everything was far more strict
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Old May 1st, 2012, 05:47 PM   #31
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http://www.freedomessenger.com/archives/48572

Islamic Republic of Iran - Wahhabi Republic of Iran?
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 12:20 AM   #32
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Iranians need to reject this totalitarian ideology that is Islamism! This will FREE the Middle East. Iranians have a ancient and great history, that predates Islam, I'm sure many have embraced it and want to embrace it.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 02:15 AM   #33
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islamism and islamic mentality(which in most cases is a closed, harsh mentality) truly need to be taken away

i really hope for a better future in the region
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 03:17 PM   #34
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Yes

Islam is the root of all backwardness, corruption, misery and poverty etc that exists in the Middle East, and the whole world as whole.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 03:26 PM   #35
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Is it me or is this topic changing to an anti-religion topic??!
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 04:48 PM   #36
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Is it me or is this topic changing to an anti-religion topic??!
human rights and islamic sharia law are tightly interwoven
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 07:25 PM   #37
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human rights and islamic sharia law are tightly interwoven
This.

I'm not here to bash religion, but if any more news about Islam tied with Human Rights Violations (which occur pretty often) i will post it here and people may discuss it, as long as it's OK with the moderators.

Also the worst human rights violating states in the world has Islam as state religion, so i don't think it's a coincidence. >_>

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Old May 4th, 2012, 12:30 AM   #38
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Yes

Islam is the root of all backwardness, corruption, misery and poverty etc that exists in the Middle East, and the whole world as whole.
"All" .... Disagree with you on that! I don't think Islam or any single ideology is the source of all corruption and misery on the planet.
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Old September 3rd, 2012, 10:41 PM   #39
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I certainly would not agree Islam is the "source" of all misery on this planet......there is more than enough blame to go around.

No Islamic country {and Iran is a stellar example} will ever have even a remote chance of creating a truly democratic and human rights based society while Islam is the rule of law. I think Mohammed would be rolling over in his grave if he say what was supposedly being done in his name as would Jesus during The Crusades. The difference of course is about 800 to 1000 years.

Islam and human rights have proven themselves to be completely incompatible.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 09:53 AM   #40
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We are living in one of the most Democratic country.we elect our president, we have Parliament and We can choose our Supreme leader via Assembly of Experts.
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