10 Fastest Growing and Declining Cities

[henrique42]

''So what? DIEESE (and nobody else for that matter) NEVER contested those numbers as they're absolutely correct

why o why then, do oficial numbers speak of 5% unemployment, and DIEESE of 10,5%

Where did those jobs go?
Forging data? Do you yourself believe in an inflation of 6,5 %

..

[Yuri S Andrade]

Do you understand unemployment data has NOTHING to do with the data for job creation? We have several different methodologies to mesure unemployment worldwide. That's why different numbers. Data for job creation is simple: it's based on "carteira assinada". It's generated automatically.

About inflation, you are kidding, right? Several PRIVATE institutions mesure inflation, like the IGP-M of FGV, for example. And again, nobody contests the IBGE numbers (IPCA), only you and other clueless people. The financial world operates under the assumption these numbers are correct, because they are. How can a person who not understand such basic things, dares to talk about data forgery so liberally?

And I'm still waiting a link claiming Brazilian government forges numbers. I'm a regular reader of Veja, Exame, Folha de São Paulo, Estado de São Paulo, and I've never read such thing.

[henrique42]

well, Lula tried to implement the Conselho federal de Jornalismo, controling the media, and try this, the Veja, respected enough for you?

http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/bra...le-da-imprensa

explaining that the ruling PT wants more control over the media....
ofcourse, after that you never hear anything anymore...

I suppose you're a PT voter?

[bobcat]

Originally Posted by CarltonHill

Infra & Construction-wise, fastest growing cities must be the cities of China, Vietnam, India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines & Thailand... (just my opinion though) -look at their forums here.

Yeah, because their economies are growing at a rapid speed nonstop, and it will be the economic power region in the future.

[henrique42]

''We have several different methodologies to mesure unemployment worldwide. That's why different number''

a diference of 6,5%???


http://oglobo.globo.com/pais/noblat/...eua-336556.asp

http://www.jornalpequeno.com.br/2011...dia-168686.htm

No quesito Liberdade de Imprensa, lá vem o Brasil descendo a ladeira !
http://www.observadorpolitico.org.br...ndo-a-ladeira/

but hey, you win.......but time will tell, like greece....

[Yuri S Andrade]

Originally Posted by henrique42

well, Lula tried to implement the Conselho federal de Jornalismo, controling the media, and try this, the Veja, respected enough for you?

http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/bra...le-da-imprensa

explaining that the ruling PT wants more control over the media....
ofcourse, after that you never hear anything anymore...

I suppose you're a PT voter?

And WHAT this has to do with forgery data? No, I'm not a "PT voter".

You're completely lost.

Originally Posted by henrique42

''We have several different methodologies to mesure unemployment worldwide. That's why different number''

a diference of 6,5%???

Yes, because they're distinct methodologies. Dieese, for example, includes underemployment or part time jobs as unemployment. It doesn't mean IBGE is forging the numbers. For international comparisons, IBGE numbers are better as their methodology is more common worldwide.

Originally Posted by henrique42

http://oglobo.globo.com/pais/noblat/...eua-336556.asp

http://www.jornalpequeno.com.br/2011...dia-168686.htm

No quesito Liberdade de Imprensa, lá vem o Brasil descendo a ladeira !
http://www.observadorpolitico.org.br...ndo-a-ladeira/

but hey, you win.......but time will tell, like greece....

I'll (and everybody) win only if you drop this nonsense.

[henrique42]

''And WHAT this has to do with forgery data?


I'm lost and you're naive
controlling the media has nothing to do with forgery..........LOL

Bye Yuri

[Yuri S Andrade]

Again, I'm a regular reader of Veja, Exame, Folha, Estadão, which cannot be accused of being "pro-government" and I've never read that Brazilian government was forging numbers for employment, inflation, economic growth, etc. It's only in your head, apparently.

BTW, you seem to believe in the numbers for economic growth for 2009 and 2011. So, when IBGE posts "bad numbers", you believe. When, they're "good", it must be a lie...

[henrique42]

''BTW, you seem to believe in the numbers for economic growth for 2009 and 2011. So, when IBGE posts "bad numbers", you believe. When, they're "good", it must be a lie...''''

no, i believe they are even worse



http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/1...dedieese.shtml

and read you estadao;
http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/i...-,822172,0.htm

or folha
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/9...da-midia.shtml

[Yuri S Andrade]

Are you serious?!?!?!

The first link is telling exactly what I'm saying to you: IBGE and DIEESE use distinct methodologies. It has NOTHING to do with forgery or whatever conspiracy theory you might believe. The second link has nothing to do with this discussion or this thread.

[henrique42]

Are you serious?

IBGE is oficial
DIEESE unoficial (unemployment 10,5%, wage 1510 reais)

the second link; explains how the PT tries to control the media in Bahia. Relative i think

[Yuri S Andrade]

You're beyond help.

[bobcat]

henriquw42,

That guy Yuri S Andrade is a troll and a joke, he talk nonsense, just ignore him.

[Yuri S Andrade]

Said the guy registered two weeks ago whose biggest accomplish is posting trollish photos. This thread became a circus.

[sebvill]

Yuri dont listen to those kids.

henrique42 doesnt even know how to quote correctly. I mean, if you cant manage with the basics...

And bobcat is just a South American hater. Haters gonna hate.

Its a waste of time discussing with them.

[henrique42]

''Yuri dont listen to those kids.

henrique42 doesnt even know how to quote correctly''

That's because i once said that in Brazil we think peru (another shining example of a reliable country) is a turkey?


Go ahead you guys, if you want to believe in a government of one of the most corrupt countries in the world, from time to time trying to control the media, 8 years ruled by a mineworker, who became rich in those 8 years (some say even a billionaire), (The american ambassador quoted the Lula government as extremely corrupt), now since 1 year ruled by a government, where already SIX ministers stepped down in this year because of corruption, well i suppose the numbers they publish must be very, very trustworthy

I really lost it...

[sebvill]

I dont care if you think Peru is a turkey or a penis. Thats your problem. Im only saying you should at least learn how to quote if you wanna discuss here.

[henrique42]

quote;

''Its a waste of time discussing with them.''

[bobcat]

Originally Posted by henrique42

quote;

''Its a waste of time discussing with them.''

yup, it is a waste of time talking to those 2 clowns. Just let it go, they are trolls, liking their own continent and country so much, they believe it is Disneyland or something , jesus.

[odlum833]

Originally Posted by Yuri S Andrade

But that's precisely the point: are there any NEW jobs in Dublin? Nobody posted nothing about it.

There are new jobs being created particularly by the multinationals but these are top of the food chain type jobs that pay alot of money for brains. If it's construction you are into go elsewhere for the time being. But if you are skilled there is no shortage of skilled jobs in things like Pharmaceuticals or ICT and things like that. Most of the worlds largest companies in these areas have significant operations in Ireland that provide tremendous career opportunities. Alot of them have their European/Asian headquarters here and continue to invest. The lack of jobs in Ireland is primarily, though not exclusively, in the construction sector. Like I say if that's your area avoid. Otherwise if you are skilled Dublin is very attractive.