Westfield London Expansion | Shepherd's Bush | 205,000 m² retail space | Pro

[NCT]

Originally Posted by JimB

What, exactly, are E and F going to be?

Look like some kind of retail units with street frontage. E will probably have residential on top. I think they correspond to No. 4 in this link:

http://www.westfieldlondondevelopmen...masterplan.htm

[JimB]

Originally Posted by ReissOmari

Currently looks like this

Not quite...

The park shown to the north of the Hammersmith and City Line (bottom of picture - we're looking north to south) isn't there at present.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by NCT

Look like some kind of retail units with street frontage. E will probably have residential on top. I think they correspond to No. 4 in this link:

http://www.westfieldlondondevelopmen...masterplan.htm

F looks to be a bit of a weird one. From the plans, there does appear to be some extra square footage, but it's very narrow.

[kerouac1848]

Just seen this will take 20-years to complete. Although a large project this seems excessively long for its size. It's no Olympic Park or even a Kings Cross.

[Rational Plan]

Originally Posted by kerouac1848

Just seen this will take 20-years to complete. Although a large project this seems excessively long for its size. It's no Olympic Park or even a Kings Cross.

I somehow doubt it. At the end of the day once the Mall is built, that nearly all the heavy work done. That can't take more than 4 years. Then all your left with is some blocks of flats. We are only talking about 1500 in total, a small amount for London, even in one scheme.

They would not want the flats to finish before the Mall opened but even 5 years later would be stretching it.

I wonder if they meant 20 years for the development not covered by this planning application. The land North of the Hammersmith and City line?

[kerouac1848]

It appears ridiculous given the size and development on offer. The site is a mere fraction of the Olympic Park or Greenwich Peninsula.

Yet, on the phasing section of the website it says:

Westfield has now submitted an outline planning application to the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham. This is a 20-year build programme which will be delivered over a number of phases, as indicated in the diagrams above. Click the images to view larger versions.

Those diagrams only refer to the area south of the H&C line. It doesn't stack up.

Re. the area between this development and the Westway, It is one of the favoured sites for QPR's new ground (along side OOC) and they'd need at least 60% of it, probably more.

[andysimo123]

Originally Posted by ReissOmari

Even with all the stats, Westfield London will become the biggest shopping centre in the country

I don't know about that. New expansion which should start this year will take the Trafford Centre to just over 187,000sq m but there are also two other expansion plans for four large anchor stores. They'd be similar to the Marks and Spencers store in size so I'd guess anything it could increase to 205-210,000sq m to 224,000sq m depending on four stores sizes. Beyond that the owners have said its also future proofed for a 3rd floor in the main building. I'd guess these massive malls all have expansion plans in place. Either way I reckon we'll see either two or three break the 200,000sq m in the next ten years.

[cloudburst]

Originally Posted by *Nurse*

Courtesy of Googlemaps:

Great Stuff, Thanks *Nurse*

[LDN_EUROPE]

video here: http://www.westfieldlondondevelopment.co.uk/












This shows the order of the phasing over 20 years: http://www.westfieldlondondevelopment.co.uk/phasing.htm

[delores]

Looks impressive but 20 years? that's a very long time for the development.

[WtS]

So with construction likely to begin in 2014 at the earliest can we expect the shopping expansion completed by 2016 at the earliest?

[Rational Plan]

Well, Westfield have divested themselves of some of their smaller UK malls and development sites. I think this only leaves this site with any possibility of expansion.

If John Lewis are keen then imagine they will be keen to push on. But they have only recently opened Stratford, so they will be waiting on special deals they signed to get retailers to open here to expire and for the full cash flow to start pouring in start reducing their debts.

[jdjones]

Originally Posted by Rational Plan

Well, Westfield have divested themselves of some of their smaller UK malls and development sites. I think this only leaves this site with any possibility of expansion.

If John Lewis are keen then imagine they will be keen to push on. But they have only recently opened Stratford, so they will be waiting on special deals they signed to get retailers to open here to expire and for the full cash flow to start pouring in start reducing their debts.

The John Lewis Partnership have decided in recent years to concentrate of the John Lewis at Home format, saying Cardiff and Stratford are possibly the last stores of their sort for some time. At least that's what they told us in the Partnership magazine and then they decide to build a big John Lewis in Birtmingham!

I honestly think that Oxford Street and Peter Jones are too close to warrant a new store in West London, but the Partnership seems of late to be ignoring its partners fears and turning their back on their previous successful conservative stance. Hey, but what do I know! All I know is that over the recession it seems that Waitorse has been keeping the Partnership in the black, with pretty much every John Lewis store down on profits.

[Rational Plan]

Imperial West is Imperial Colleges new campus. 600 new post graduate study rooms have already been finished and funding has just been announced for the new admin and laboratory buildings has been announced and construction about to start. You can see these as you head into town on the Westway, The most exciting will be the 32 storey sloping tower to help fund the scheme. Imperial is supposed to be also trying to by the 10 acre Marks & Spencer warehouse just north of the westfield expansion scheme.

So potential a real high rise campus here.

[Rational Plan]

a couple thousand units mainly 9 to 12 storey mansion blocks around a central square with a 16 and 32 storey towers. It looks quite classy. The tower is very classic New York with brick and terracotta

[mulattokid]

Andy Slaughter is a great local Labour MP. However, he has a personal aversion to anything over 6 storey. I can guarantee he will set up a group to fight this purely on the height of the tallest tower.

[SE9]

Well, here's the group against Imperial West: http://imperialfolly.org.uk/



Imperial West and Brickfields (the two projects above) are big enough to warrant their own individual threads in my opinion

[Rational Plan]

Imperial looks like a done deal to me as the 1st phase is built and 2nd just about to start.

Westfield expansion is approved.

I hope Brickfields goes through as the brick looks great.

I thought it might be good to keep all the Whitecity schemes together. While they are big they are not in central London and therefore will not be updated frequently.

[SE9]

Ah, something like the 'Greenwich Peninsula - Various projects' thread, but for White City... got ya

[Glom]

Those big buildings in front of the Westway really help it. Make it look more spacey as it flies through a futuristic metropolis rather than just a big concrete viaduct ramming its way through a humble residential area.