General Hall of Fame discussions - Page 2

Monkey · November 10th, 2004, 08:54 PM

^ Well said, Islander.

th0m · November 11th, 2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Islander

Another anology: a baseball hit out of the ballpark, and then signed, by Babe Ruth. I bet you'd say "Whoopdedoo, it got smacked really hard by a peice of wood and now there's some ink on it, it's no more valuable than any ordinary baseball", when it's actually worth tens of thousands of dollars!

That analogy is only half of the truth though. Although it may or may not have a value of tens of thousands of dollars, not everybody is willing to spend that much money on "something that got smacked really hard by a piece of wood with ink on it". So you have to seperate actual and personal value.

noli · November 12th, 2004, 12:11 PM

No one would bother building a clone of the ESB. It is an architectural monstrosity with no style. The only thing it has going for it is the height title it held for so long and subjective feelings of nostalgia. Im not from NYC so I can seperate myself from the nostalgia and look at the ESB like I would at any other scraper in the world. In my eyes, it simply is an ugly building that was the tallest for a long time. Only a New Yorker would bother spending money to build a clone of such an ugly building. As for the ball hit by babe ruth. I wouldnt pay a dollar for it.

New Jack City · November 12th, 2004, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Koreanczyk

No one would bother building a clone of the ESB. It is an architectural monstrosity with no style. The only thing it has going for it is the height title it held for so long and subjective feelings of nostalgia. Im not from NYC so I can seperate myself from the nostalgia and look at the ESB like I would at any other scraper in the world. In my eyes, it simply is an ugly building that was the tallest for a long time. Only a New Yorker would bother spending money to build a clone of such an ugly building. As for the ball hit by babe ruth. I wouldnt pay a dollar for it.

You must be the first person I've ever heard call the ESB an "architectural monstrosity."

I can see the point of the side that says the design isn't architecturally spectacular but don't fool yourself, it ain't a monstrosity.

Islander · November 13th, 2004, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koreanczyk

As for the ball hit by babe ruth. I wouldnt pay a dollar for it.

Then you're a fool, because if you bought it for a dollar you could turn around and sell it for a few year's salary.

***Ashok*** · November 13th, 2004, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koreanczyk

No one would bother building a clone of the ESB. It is an architectural monstrosity with no style. The only thing it has going for it is the height title it held for so long and subjective feelings of nostalgia. Im not from NYC so I can seperate myself from the nostalgia and look at the ESB like I would at any other scraper in the world. In my eyes, it simply is an ugly building that was the tallest for a long time. Only a New Yorker would bother spending money to build a clone of such an ugly building. As for the ball hit by babe ruth. I wouldnt pay a dollar for it.

f16_freak · November 13th, 2004, 07:49 AM

the korean guy is just stating his reasons why he thinks that chrysler is better. He thinks that esb is a lousy building so let it be. We all have our own viewpoints and theres no need to interfere or change other's viewpoint.

I feel that esb is better. it is very proportionate and I like its colour.

noli · November 20th, 2004, 03:30 AM

The Chrysler is s amazing. The ESB is fine up to the part where the roof and spire begin. It just doesnt mesh up there with the rest of the building. The spire is butt ugly too. The Chrysler though, just flows smoothly from top to bottom. The spire and roof and the body of the building form an organic whole. Simply put, the Chrysler has style and beauty. The ESB has none of that. It seems to me that while the Chrysler was built wih the idea od beauty and style first and height second, the ESB was probably the first example of a building where architecture is kicked to the curb and height at any cost is all that matters.

noli · November 20th, 2004, 03:42 AM

The Chrysler is s amazing. The ESB is fine up to the part where the roof and spire begin. It just doesnt mesh up there with the rest of the building. The spire is butt ugly too. The Chrysler though, just flows smoothly from top to bottom. The spire and roof and the body of the building form an organic whole. Simply put, the Chrysler has style and beauty. The ESB has none of that. It seems to me that while the Chrysler was built wih the idea od beauty and style first and height second, the ESB was probably the first example of a building where architecture is kicked to the curb and height at any cost is all that matters.

airmale007 · November 27th, 2004, 08:19 PM

The Empire State Building and the Chrysler Building are both gorgeous examples of the architectural ingenuity of a great american city. While I find both to be beautiful, I think no edifice speaks quite so much about New York City, and America, as the Empire State Building. Those who can only see pictures miss so much of the building's importance. Louis Sullivan, a famous American architect, one said "A building is an act". The Empire State Building was not merely an act, but an American architectural triumph.

redstone · December 21st, 2004, 03:39 PM

Why do people vote for famous buildings rather than the truly beautiful building?

New Jack City · December 21st, 2004, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by redstone

Why do people vote for famous buildings rather than the truly beautiful building?

Aren't most famous buildings truly beautiful?

redstone · December 22nd, 2004, 01:00 AM

Now I honestly think HK's BOC's lighting is nothing.
What about towers lit in rainbow colours? Or those that change colours?

Monkey · December 28th, 2004, 08:07 PM

150m+ Skyscrapers completed in 2004: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?8712065

Monkey · December 28th, 2004, 08:09 PM

oops, double post

Monkey · December 28th, 2004, 08:15 PM

SwissRe is without a doubt my first choice ... It has transformed London's skyline and attracted the public's attention like no other building. It's become a design icon, and a symbol of 21st century Britain.

I can't believe somebody on the other thread described it as "an average building". Get a clue!!!

Desven · January 15th, 2005, 03:48 PM

nice idea wjfox!

i would propably nominate Skyper,Frankfurt(154m)

the facade isn't something special but i really like that shape!

Tazmaniadevil · October 22nd, 2005, 04:37 AM

The ESB and the Chrysler have stood the test of time. They remain classic skyscrapers, along with other tall buildings in the USA that I also admire.
There were no tall buildings outside of the Americas until the 1970's. And how many buildings built in the rest of the world since the 70's hold up as classics?? Very few, I think, and that includes those built in the USA. I think it will be interesting to see how many of the buildings being built today will be considered on the same level as the ESB and Chrysler in the future.

the glimpser · August 22nd, 2012, 05:00 PM

Bumping this thread. Just saw this article that I want to share - has this been posted already?...

The World's Most Majestic Skyscrapers

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The Chicago based CTBUH, a group of architects and structural engineers that monitors tall building projects around the world, said there has been a "renaissance" in skyscraper development. A record 88 towers taller than 200 meters were completed in 2011 - compared to 32 such projects in 2005.

The 29-story Al Bahar Towers in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates was given an innovation award for its dynamic facade that rotates in response to the movement of the sun by the Chicago-based Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH) on June 13, 2012.

A 28-story elliptical tower in Sydney, Australia, was named Best Tall Building in Asia & Australia by the Chicago-based Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (CTBUH) on June 13, 2012.

This 46-story Doha Tower in Qatar has been named the Best Tall Building in Middle East & Africa

Italy's 40-story Palazzo Lombardia in Milan was named the Best Tall Building Europe

An artist's rendering of the soon-to-be completed Absolute Towers, a 56-story residential project in Mississauga, Ontario. The towers have been named the Best Tall Building in Americas.

Source and other pictures:http://ph.news.yahoo.com/photos/the-...339649937.html

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November 10th, 2004, 08:54 PM	#21
Monkey Londinium langur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Londinium Posts: 14,616 Likes (Received): 1	^ Well said, Islander.

November 12th, 2004, 12:11 PM	#23
noli Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 552 Likes (Received): 0	No one would bother building a clone of the ESB. It is an architectural monstrosity with no style. The only thing it has going for it is the height title it held for so long and subjective feelings of nostalgia. Im not from NYC so I can seperate myself from the nostalgia and look at the ESB like I would at any other scraper in the world. In my eyes, it simply is an ugly building that was the tallest for a long time. Only a New Yorker would bother spending money to build a clone of such an ugly building. As for the ball hit by babe ruth. I wouldnt pay a dollar for it.

November 13th, 2004, 07:49 AM	#27
f16_freak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 37 Likes (Received): 0	the korean guy is just stating his reasons why he thinks that chrysler is better. He thinks that esb is a lousy building so let it be. We all have our own viewpoints and theres no need to interfere or change other's viewpoint. I feel that esb is better. it is very proportionate and I like its colour.

November 20th, 2004, 03:30 AM	#28
noli Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 552 Likes (Received): 0	The Chrysler is s amazing. The ESB is fine up to the part where the roof and spire begin. It just doesnt mesh up there with the rest of the building. The spire is butt ugly too. The Chrysler though, just flows smoothly from top to bottom. The spire and roof and the body of the building form an organic whole. Simply put, the Chrysler has style and beauty. The ESB has none of that. It seems to me that while the Chrysler was built wih the idea od beauty and style first and height second, the ESB was probably the first example of a building where architecture is kicked to the curb and height at any cost is all that matters.

November 20th, 2004, 03:42 AM	#29
noli Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 552 Likes (Received): 0	The Chrysler is s amazing. The ESB is fine up to the part where the roof and spire begin. It just doesnt mesh up there with the rest of the building. The spire is butt ugly too. The Chrysler though, just flows smoothly from top to bottom. The spire and roof and the body of the building form an organic whole. Simply put, the Chrysler has style and beauty. The ESB has none of that. It seems to me that while the Chrysler was built wih the idea od beauty and style first and height second, the ESB was probably the first example of a building where architecture is kicked to the curb and height at any cost is all that matters.

November 27th, 2004, 08:19 PM	#30
airmale007 Central Illinoisan Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Decatur,IL and Urbana/Champaign, IL Posts: 171 Likes (Received): 0	The Empire State Building and the Chrysler Building are both gorgeous examples of the architectural ingenuity of a great american city. While I find both to be beautiful, I think no edifice speaks quite so much about New York City, and America, as the Empire State Building. Those who can only see pictures miss so much of the building's importance. Louis Sullivan, a famous American architect, one said "A building is an act". The Empire State Building was not merely an act, but an American architectural triumph.

December 28th, 2004, 08:07 PM	#34
Monkey Londinium langur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Londinium Posts: 14,616 Likes (Received): 1	150m+ Skyscrapers completed in 2004: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?8712065

December 28th, 2004, 08:15 PM	#36
Monkey Londinium langur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Londinium Posts: 14,616 Likes (Received): 1	SwissRe is without a doubt my first choice ... It has transformed London's skyline and attracted the public's attention like no other building. It's become a design icon, and a symbol of 21st century Britain. I can't believe somebody on the other thread described it as "an average building". Get a clue!!!

October 22nd, 2005, 04:37 AM	#38
Tazmaniadevil Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tampa Posts: 333 Likes (Received): 0	The ESB and the Chrysler have stood the test of time. They remain classic skyscrapers, along with other tall buildings in the USA that I also admire. There were no tall buildings outside of the Americas until the 1970's. And how many buildings built in the rest of the world since the 70's hold up as classics?? Very few, I think, and that includes those built in the USA. I think it will be interesting to see how many of the buildings being built today will be considered on the same level as the ESB and Chrysler in the future.