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Old August 8th, 2013, 02:19 PM   #221
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This landscape will change significantly!

I'd like to see this video in a few years:


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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:01 PM   #222
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57th street will be so badass.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:17 PM   #223
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you bet me to it.
was about to say, do not forget about shenzhen. but in the end it is all about timing for the cities. if new york starts all proposed projects rather soon it may still get the title since shenzhen has a lot of long term projects. but on the other side New York sometimes takes very long to get buildings up and Shenzhen also has a lot of supertalls that are not included in the list, since they are still conceptual and only fillers for the qianhai area, so we will see how it goes.
You can't really compare New York and Shenzhen.

New Yorks builds on demand, all those new supertalls are residential which is crazy. No other city on earth builds so many tall residential buildings!
Shenzhen on the other hand builds big because ... well mostly for the sake of it (and of course to put the city on the map).
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:22 PM   #224
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Shenzhen isnt even a world city. It cant compare with New York.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:25 PM   #225
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I thought that was pretty rude to come here and post about shenzen when us new york lovers are trying to enjoy a height increase..really trying to compare new york to shenzen? Thats like comparing a diamond to a turd.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:35 PM   #226
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Shop is the architect of record, but who will be the design architect? I'm guessing it'll remain Cetra-Ruddy. They have more experience designing modern/classic buildings and restoring historic buildings. If Shop does the design, I'll be surprised.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #227
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A 1200 ft copper clad building would be pretty awesome. Imagine how brightly it would gleam in the sun.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #228
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Here's something I whipped up.

Looks good but where is the Nordstrom Tower & Tower Verre?
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Old August 8th, 2013, 06:30 PM   #229
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I looked at the Steinway building on Google Earth. It's aparently quite large and seems to extend all the way to 58th St. Presumably, only the 57th St portion will be retained.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 08:15 PM   #230
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Just FYI, there are about 50 200m+ buildings currently under construction / on hold / in preparation / approved / proposed in New York City.
58 buildings over 200m are completed and topped out, respectively.

Thus New York could have more than 100 skyscrapers completed by 2025.

This city is unstoppable.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 08:19 PM   #231
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I looked at the Steinway building on Google Earth. It's aparently quite large and seems to extend all the way to 58th St. Presumably, only the 57th St portion will be retained.
Even so, at just 100 planned units, the tower will be slim by necessity. these guys are shooting for the same double height ceilings and wraparound views as 432 Park. But of course, anything would have more stylistic flair compared with Vinoly's perforated yardstick.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 08:34 PM   #232
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Even so, at just 100 planned units, the tower will be slim by necessity. these guys are shooting for the same double height ceilings and wraparound views as 432 Park. But of course, anything would have more stylistic flair compared with Vinoly's perforated yardstick.


I think it's pretty cool that we still see various architectural styles being applied in the city.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 08:41 PM   #233
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Are there any examples of a supertall close to 1,200 ft with aprox 300,000 sq ft of space in the globe? If not this is for the record books = epic

57th Street = the land of skinny supertalls.

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Old August 8th, 2013, 08:54 PM   #234
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111 West 57th Street to Soar 1,200 Feet
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Per the permits, the new supertall will rise 74 stories and hold 100 dwelling units, allowing for stunning views from the upper floors.

The Schedule A reveals:

bottom six floors will be retail
floors 7-16 will each hold two units
floors 17-71 will each be full-floor
floors 72-74 to be used for mechanical equipment, which also opens the possibility to a crown.


The tower’s dimensions will require significant measures to counteract swaying.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 08:56 PM   #235
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Inb4 mass tuned damper.

(just lease the top mechanical floor to the Honey Boo Boo family! )
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Old August 8th, 2013, 09:04 PM   #236
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If the top floors aren't used for apartments, it would be cool to have an observation deck or restaurant up there.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 04:12 AM   #237
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Mmmm,,,, knowing well both NYC (Manhattan only, though) and Shenzhen, I'd say your comparison is a bit raw. I remember NYC from its rotten, destructive days in the early '90s, pre Giuliani, where African Americans were routinely assaulting European looking passengers on city buses, happened to me too, and when therewas even talk of demolishing gems such as 60 Wall Street for, uh, parking lots and such... lots has changed since then and guess what, now one can find a proper large supermarket in the city too, althrough have to walk to Columbus Circle or Battery Park City to find a decent sized Whole Foods, for instance

Shenzhen city, at 34 years old, is younger than many of us on this forum, its population (unlike Shanghai or Guangzhou) may be mostly rural and provincial, with corresponding results on city's cleanliness, lack of sophistication and even quality food supply (you'll find multimillionaires here gorging on MSG-laden foods and sugary drinks coz they simply don't know anything better), but it is rapidly improving and has something that New York City doesn't - far more efficient and effective government here, that can even pass Singapore-style laws to manage and protect the city environment, discipline the population step by step, and do large scale planning without being obstructed by Weiner-like episodes.

So, in a sense, NYC is an aged diamond, whose mid-30's skyline still seems its golden age long gone, and frankly it is still THE skyline of all times, even how romantic and impressive it was - while Shenzhen is a new jewel, in the process of being polished up. It takes time, of course, but as its resident polulation stabilises (the total population is like 17 million now), and the housing prices, which aren't that far from NYC ones anymore, entice developers AND flat owners to build and maintain quality buildings (for instance, learning to WASH the windows and facades once in a while...) you'll see a plethora of great office and residential buildings there too, aside from at least 3 megatalls by 2020 of course.

If NYC had such government, besides other obvious improvements, you'd have at least 3 megatalls in the city right now, and they wouldn't let the skycraper capital of the world be upstaged by Dubai or anyone else even in the height department - I personally believe midtown or Upper Manhattan, or maybe even tip of Battery Park near the ferry, could house a landmark megatall. As yes, it would be a safer city, Shenzhen has very good safety record knowing what kind of population turnover it had all these years.

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Old August 9th, 2013, 04:18 AM   #238
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I don't think anyone in the West, whether America, Canada, Europe, etc., wants repressive, dictatorial government like China's. Eventually, China will become a democracy.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 04:54 AM   #239
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Are there any examples of a supertall close to 1,200 ft with aprox 300,000 sq ft of space in the globe? If not this is for the record books = epic

57th Street = the street of nice skinny supertalls.
There. Fixed.
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Inb4 mass tuned damper.

(just lease the top mechanical floor to the Honey Boo Boo family! )
Now that's some exercise for them!
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