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Old August 9th, 2013, 05:23 AM   #241
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If this is built to that height, that will look freakishly thin. I hope the design will be nicer, as well. Never liked the current one.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 05:31 AM   #242
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432 Park Ave.'s 89 floors will cost a little over $1 billion and One57's 75 floors will cost an estimated $1.3 billion. I'm having a really hard time processing that $2.5 billion number. SHoP's designs are generally economical to build although clearly JDS is planning something special here. Maybe it's a deliberately vague extended number on that DOB filing.
I am with you DP and for good reason. the actual figure quoted on the DA is

Estimated Total Cost: $2,500,000.00

which I read as $2.5 million not $2.5 billion. So there is clearly something wrong with the figure as submitted to New York Building or else it refers to the first stage which might be site clearing/pre foundaiton work or something relatively inexpensive or else construction is going to be done by trained monkeys and that is the expected banana bill for the build...

Anyway, I am sure the final figure will appear at some point.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 06:22 AM   #243
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Now this I had not heard. Stunning. Guess I planned my trip a few years too early, haha.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 07:07 AM   #244
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So, this is going to be taller than Tower Verre...I wonder if 107 57th will make Verre appear insignificant in the skyline.

Also, where's that commission lady's hissy fit for this building being too tall? If 107 West 57th street will be this tall, will Hines attempt a new height designation for Tower Verre?

It seems every project in New York is moving faster than Tower Verre. A new super tall will move from proposed, to prep to under-construction then to completion before Tower Verre starts construction.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 08:04 AM   #245
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I think this is too thin to make TV insignificant. The problem with TV being shorted was less not standing out and more hurting a great looking building's proportions imo.

Edit Also was it ever determined whether this new figure is highest floor or tallest limit?

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Old August 9th, 2013, 06:32 PM   #246
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You can't really compare New York and Shenzhen.

New Yorks builds on demand, all those new supertalls are residential which is crazy. No other city on earth builds so many tall residential buildings!
Shenzhen on the other hand builds big because ... well mostly for the sake of it (and of course to put the city on the map).

NY Yimby sums it up:

http://newyorkyimby.com/#/2013/08/pe...ar-1200.html/1

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Come 2020, the corridor will have four supertall buildings, presenting an unparalleled canyon of height, urbanity, and luxury. Most impressive is the organic nature of the new development, as all towers – One57, 111 West 57th, 225 West 57th, and 432 Park – are privately financed and demand driven, the defining difference between supertall construction in New York as compared to Dubai and other developing cities.
I couldn't agree more.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:39 PM   #247
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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:47 PM   #248
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Old August 9th, 2013, 11:29 PM   #249
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Aren't we being just a tad over-optimistic about 225?

That aside, this massing of 107, (or as it's I believe it'll now officially be know, 111) w57th is just... I can't even wrap my mind around it. It's just SO thin. Have engineers just been trolling us for the last couple thousand years? Is physics a lie? Because it doesn't seem like it should be possible, how the proportions on these towers just gets more and more extreme.
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Old August 10th, 2013, 12:08 AM   #250
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the nordstrom tower look as a monster taller than 1 wtc,like a megatall
what is this building near 432 park ?? the 107 west 57 look some height of esb

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Old August 10th, 2013, 12:24 AM   #251
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That looks like 650 Madison (Ralph Lauren HQ). That site if they decide to develop it may have near supertall potential.

I dunno, that massing looks really tall unless there is a potential site i'm not aware of that can go that tall indicated in the photo by germantower.
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Old August 10th, 2013, 08:12 AM   #252
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A thin supertall THAT thin would be pretty cool IMO. It gives New York a sort of futuristic/art deco style look.
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Old August 10th, 2013, 07:30 PM   #253
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This would beat 432 Park in terms of extreme proportions.
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Old August 10th, 2013, 08:24 PM   #254
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I see a lot of skinny towers rise above the 'fatter' existing towers
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Old August 10th, 2013, 11:39 PM   #255
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Yeah, in a couple years it's going to start looking like Lower Manhattan in the 1930s. Albeit obviously with different styles. I love the Midtown skyline but adding some new iconic peaks to break through the plateau will be great.
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Old August 11th, 2013, 12:42 AM   #256
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This might not be any skinnier than 432 Park. It appears from Google Earth that Steinway Hall is actually quite a large building that extends all the way to 58th St. Can someone copy and past Google's aerial view of 107 W 57th?
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Old August 11th, 2013, 05:24 AM   #257
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This might not be any skinnier than 432 Park. It appears from Google Earth that Steinway Hall is actually quite a large building that extends all the way to 58th St. Can someone copy and past Google's aerial view of 107 W 57th?

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Old August 11th, 2013, 05:30 AM   #258
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Guys, this tower isn't going to happen.
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Old August 11th, 2013, 05:35 AM   #259
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Guys, this tower isn't going to happen.
*Sigh*...I'll bite. Why won't it?
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Old August 11th, 2013, 05:38 AM   #260
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Thanks.

This site is about the same size as One 57's.
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