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Old April 14th, 2016, 02:07 AM   #2801
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Gosh, it always amazes me how tall it looks just because it's so thin. Still can't imagine how it must feel to live in such heights. I mean visiting an observatory is one thing, but to wake up every day with such a view... Will there ever come a moment when it's just like living in a "normal" building?
Personally i would actually prefer a big house in a nice spot in nature, even if i am a fan of tall buildings. But imagine eating breakfast by the window on a sunny morning. Man!
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Old April 14th, 2016, 09:23 AM   #2802
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Old April 14th, 2016, 09:24 PM   #2803
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Does anyone know what type of support this has against wind loads? It's so thin.
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Old April 14th, 2016, 09:29 PM   #2804
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Does anyone know what type of support this has against wind loads? It's so thin.
this one has a tuned mass damper and open floors like at 432 Park.
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Old April 14th, 2016, 11:51 PM   #2805
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Personally i would actually prefer a big house in a nice spot in nature, even if i am a fan of tall buildings. But imagine eating breakfast by the window on a sunny morning. Man!
I'm pretty sure the people who will have apartments here have those houses too.
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Old April 15th, 2016, 12:46 AM   #2806
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Old April 15th, 2016, 01:29 AM   #2807
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Does anyone know what type of support this has against wind loads? It's so thin.
not an engineer expert but I would assume there is some tradeoff. Thinner so amount of load will be less, but thinner so less structure to absorb load.

A question I would be interested to know is if there is a minimum a structure must be designed to stand up to. I assume there is but I wonder what that is. I would hope it is a least 180-200mph. I know in places like Taiwan where they can get a 160mph typhoon it is at least that high. Manila too.
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Old April 15th, 2016, 05:00 AM   #2808
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not an engineer expert but I would assume there is some tradeoff. Thinner so amount of load will be less, but thinner so less structure to absorb load.

A question I would be interested to know is if there is a minimum a structure must be designed to stand up to. I assume there is but I wonder what that is. I would hope it is a least 180-200mph. I know in places like Taiwan where they can get a 160mph typhoon it is at least that high. Manila too.
According to the NYC building code. Buildings in NYC above 700 feet are required to withstand wind pressure of 40 PSF (pounds per square foot) which works out to 125 MPH. Which is only a category 3 hurricane.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/download...code/bcrs9.pdf
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Old April 15th, 2016, 05:05 AM   #2809
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According to the NYC building code. Buildings in NYC above 700 feet are required to withstand wind pressure of 40 PSF (pounds per square foot) which works out to 125 MPH. Which is only a category 3 hurricane.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/download...code/bcrs9.pdf
thats seems a bit low. I hope they go well above the minimum. A Cat 2 hurricane can easy produce gust over 125mph.
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Old April 15th, 2016, 06:16 AM   #2810
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Especially with global warming already producing stronger storms. I would hope this is designed to withstand winds well in excess of 200 mph.
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Old April 15th, 2016, 06:45 AM   #2811
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The building is a perfection !!!
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Old April 15th, 2016, 11:17 AM   #2812
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I've been loving most of the NYC developments lately, but this one... Hmmmm.. not sure. It seems way out of place and too thin.
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Old April 15th, 2016, 01:31 PM   #2813
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too thin?.. maybe. Pretty cool though..

out of place?.. hmm.. me thinks not. NY has gone through so many changes through the eras that the buildings work like a book where the many different types just tell the story. There are few cities where you can find such a diversified skyline. So what perfect place for such a "strange" building to be in, other than NY?

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Old April 16th, 2016, 03:54 AM   #2814
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too thin?.. maybe. Pretty cool though..

out of place?.. hmm.. me thinks not. NY has gone through so many changes through the eras that the buildings work like a book where the many different types just tell the story. There are few cities where you can find such a diversified skyline. So what perfect place for such a "strange" building to be in, other than NY?

And when you get to see it finished.. I believe you will come here and edit that post
that is exactly what make it the best skyline in the world. New York is more like a Skyscraper museum where as Dubai is more like a Skyscraper theme park. Both are cool in their own right, but what NY has cannot be replicated no matter how much money you throw at it.
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Old April 20th, 2016, 08:55 PM   #2815
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An interesting note on the history of address

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Old April 21st, 2016, 07:38 AM   #2816
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This building is so narrow that the cross section to catch the wind is minimized. The walls are extremely thick concrete of something like 15,000 psi. It also has a tuned mass damper. It is extremely narrow and will be a masterpiece.

As far as being out of place, wait two years and there will be another building a block away that is taller. 432 Park is the same height and a block and a half the other way. One 57 and Stern's tower are shorter but also nearby. 432 Park looks out of place now, but all of these new ones will really fill in those gaps.
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Old April 21st, 2016, 08:05 PM   #2817
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There is the progress during the month of March.



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Old April 21st, 2016, 11:47 PM   #2818
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the entire structure is now at ground level
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Old April 22nd, 2016, 08:36 AM   #2819
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thats seems a bit low. I hope they go well above the minimum. A Cat 2 hurricane can easy produce gust over 125mph.
...at ground level. 1000 feet off the ground, the wind speeds can be much greater.
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Old April 22nd, 2016, 11:09 AM   #2820
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...at ground level. 1000 feet off the ground, the wind speeds can be much greater.
I figured as much. But I had not looked into it so I did not want to speak out of my arse. Either way, IMO anything over 800 feet should be built to handle like 170mph.
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