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Old July 14th, 2016, 06:01 PM   #2921
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Not necessarily. Lately the trend in luxury residential is to have extremely high ceilings. Office space is pretty standardized at 12-13 feet or so.
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Old July 17th, 2016, 05:14 AM   #2922
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This building is a work of engineering.
I have very surprised, as it is possible that these geniuses can develop a project of this magnitude in such a small space?
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Old July 20th, 2016, 12:12 AM   #2923
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The New York Times article about the slowing top end of the market is quite alarmist. But then, that is how you sell papers, and everyone loves a bit of schadenfreude at the expense of the rich.

The delay in marketing this building has been known for months, though. As Bloomberg reported back in March (also on Curbed), it is a logical decision when you have to compete for customers. Once this building is rising and some of the cladding is installed, it will easily beat the competition from its more bland neighbors.
Every boom has a bust, just a matter of time. Thankfully, it looks like Steinway will get built this cycle. I wouldn't make any predictions about sales, though.
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Old July 20th, 2016, 12:31 AM   #2924
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Floors Forming at Super-Skinny and Supertall 111 West 57th Street


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Manhattan's love affair with super-skinny buildings has only just begun. As the tallest residential building in the world, the Rafael Vinoly-designed 432 Park Avenue has given New Yorkers a taste of what's to come. A few blocks away from this landmark property, two luxury towers that are now both under construction are approaching even greater heights. As Extell Development Company monitors the progress of their mixed-use Central Park Tower, JDS Development and Property Markets Group are building their own supertall at 111 West 57th Street.
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Old July 30th, 2016, 07:35 PM   #2925
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Old July 31st, 2016, 08:31 AM   #2926
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Wow one whole floor in what 2 weeks myb more? Don't mean to sound pessimistic but this thing is extraordinarily slow. Myb once it gets past the height of the adjacent old building it's sharing it's structure with it'll speed up, hopefully.
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Old July 31st, 2016, 07:27 PM   #2927
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Wow one whole floor in what 2 weeks myb more? Don't mean to sound pessimistic but this thing is extraordinarily slow. Myb once it gets past the height of the adjacent old building it's sharing it's structure with it'll speed up, hopefully.
I think it's pretty much agreed upon within this forum that that is indeed the case. Nothing to worry about. It'll speed up in due time.
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Old August 12th, 2016, 07:14 AM   #2928
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Old August 12th, 2016, 09:30 AM   #2929
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Two more levels added that's good progress
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Old August 12th, 2016, 10:30 AM   #2930
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I think there is a learning curve to this tower. I might be completely wrong about this, but I remember it took forever for 10 Hudson Yards to get going, then it sprouted like a weed, and now 30 Hudson Yards is flying up.
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Old August 12th, 2016, 01:59 PM   #2931
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good construction!
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Old August 12th, 2016, 04:46 PM   #2932
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I think there is a learning curve to this tower. I might be completely wrong about this, but I remember it took forever for 10 Hudson Yards to get going, then it sprouted like a weed, and now 30 Hudson Yards is flying up.
Something this dense must be extremely technical. Each piece of steel and every concrete pour must be exact. The loads travelling through what, four columns and two shear walls??? That's just crazy. That type of painstaking detail will take time. Plus, they're weaving everything into a tiny site through adjacent buildings. I'd like to know how they're pouring the one shear wall on the right hand side directly onto the adjacent masonry wall (with some blueskin or something covering the masonry). One would think you'd require a smooth surface to avoid stress concentrations in the wall.

I think it's amazing this thing is rising at all. Most exciting.
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Old August 12th, 2016, 06:39 PM   #2933
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Here is Greg Pasquarelli, Principal at SHoP on a lecture at one of Robert AM Stern's Yale lectures talking about the project from 2014. He describes a lot of the thinking behind the building. Starts about 1:07:00 in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69c-Hsjaq1w
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Old August 13th, 2016, 04:04 PM   #2934
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The construction on such a narrow lot with a landmarked building being involved has led this to crawl so far. Watching it climb one or two internal floors slowly is painful, but the payoff will be awesome. Count me as one of those hoping that once it clears the lower buildings, it takes off.
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Old August 14th, 2016, 02:06 AM   #2935
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Given the floor plate is only 60x80 feet (4,800 sq ft), this should rise several floors a week when it starts going vertical.
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Old August 14th, 2016, 06:07 AM   #2936
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Given the floor plate is only 60x80 feet (4,800 sq ft), this should rise several floors a week when it starts going vertical.

It's not gonna be 'several floors a week'
Maybe they can do a 4-5 day cycle
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Old August 15th, 2016, 05:07 AM   #2937
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Well, this may not be blazing along, but frankly, I'm glad to see that it hasn't stalled out completely, or changed height/design, or cancelled.
As long as it is just slow, it is well worth the wait.
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Old August 15th, 2016, 06:33 AM   #2938
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Old August 20th, 2016, 04:53 AM   #2939
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Nice blindside wall against wall on the right.
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Old August 20th, 2016, 08:02 PM   #2940
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Wow, the last time I looked in this thread - no floors at all, and now suddenly... 4? Amazing!
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