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Old September 10th, 2013, 07:45 PM   #361
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Here's what I think it will be like.


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I have changed my mind. We won't need a 1550ft 225 to balance out 432. This is wonderful.

107 is taking up the entire lot area at the base so it has a surprising amount of depth, 225 is the new shorter height, 220 is 850ft. Note Nordstrom is jammed to the west, likely will be closer to one57.
I guess Tower Verre won't be able to shine with all these other towers rising around it.
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Old September 10th, 2013, 11:42 PM   #362
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I guess Tower Verre won't be able to shine with all these other towers rising around it.
Nah, Verre's design stand's for itself- it doesn't need to be one of the tallest in the city to be noticed.

Although I must admit, it would be nice if they returned Verre to the original 1250ft figure.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 08:14 AM   #363
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Holy Shit!!! 1350 feet tall and only 43 feet wide! That is double the height to width ratio of 432 Park! It makes it that much less disappointing that 225 W 57 will ONLY be 1250 feet tall. New York is finally getting the massive skyscrapers it needs!
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Old September 11th, 2013, 01:50 PM   #364
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I was disappointed about 225's height reduction, but the more I think about it, the more I'm liking the current range of heights on 57th street.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 06:03 PM   #365
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Steinway Interior Gets Landmarked (Sept 10)
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MIDTOWN/MIDTOWN WEST—The rotunda-ed, frescoed first-floor interiors of Steinway Hall, the famed showroom of grand pianos, became the city's 116th indoor landmark today. According to the LPC, "it served as a circulation hub where Steinway representatives met musicians, visitors and potential customers before escorting them to the piano showrooms or to the 'piano bank,' where musicians select instruments needed for a concert or tour." Built in 1925, 109 West 57th Street was already a landmark, but now the neo-Renaissnce reception room and an adjacent hallway will also be preserved, despite the building's sale. That means the pretty spaces are safe even as its air rights were sold to JDS Development this summer, which is bringing yet another giant, skinny, glassy tower o' condos to 57th Street—the latest SHoP design was just unveiled yesterday.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 08:47 PM   #366
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Does anyone have any idea what the construction costs per square foot would be - land we know but what about hard and soft costs? $1,200 hard and soft ex land? Also, what would be the loss factor? 20%? 30%? Would likely be lower on the bottom and higher on the top. Then the next question is what would the sales price be?
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Old September 11th, 2013, 08:54 PM   #367
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I thought 225 West 57th and 432 Park Ave, being at least of the same height would have provided symmetry for the midtown skyline.. almost like two american football goal posts...except much wider.

I got the idea from this render:
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Old September 11th, 2013, 10:29 PM   #368
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These towers are so thin and so far apart that an unobstructed view is not really an argument to build the tallest.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 10:37 PM   #369
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Imagine flood lights on each setback!
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Old September 11th, 2013, 11:12 PM   #370
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Looks beautiful. Can't believe how thin it is though.
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Imagine flood lights on each setback!
I agree.

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Old September 12th, 2013, 02:22 AM   #372
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Imagine flood lights on each setback!
that would be very gotham-esque
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Old September 12th, 2013, 04:09 AM   #373
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I would like to see the sides of the building illuminated with lights that trace the steps of the setbacks. This tower in Dalllas has incredible night-time lighting.

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Old September 12th, 2013, 04:13 AM   #374
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Not gonna happen on a residential tower. Any lighting here will be minimal, people buying these units are going to want as much darkness as they can get.
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I would like to see the sides of the building illuminated with lights that trace the steps of the setbacks. This tower in Dalllas has incredible night-time lighting.

Very tacky that one in Dallas I think and NYC can do better. I for one don't see any Chinese style building illumination happening in NYC at all. NYC is all about tasteful lighting, not lighting up the city like a x-mas tree like you see in China.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 08:49 AM   #376
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Very tacky that one in Dallas I think and NYC can do better. I for one don't see any Chinese style building illumination happening in NYC at all. NYC is all about tasteful lighting, not lighting up the city like a x-mas tree like you see in China.
Agreed. In this case, less is more.

The Empire State Building has started to show occasional tacky multi color facades since it received its new LED lights. On some special nights it even had moving light shows. The simple white lights show the building in classic Gotham style. I hope that the novelty of the rest wears off quickly.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 09:04 AM   #377
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Can u image that future skyline render with HY, Manhattan West, WTC and the new towers around GC? Let's hope it all turns out, it could be absolutely amazing in a decade. Manhattan now needs some massively tall towers in the future around Penn Station to balance out the skyline in midtown.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 09:06 AM   #378
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Very tacky that one in Dallas I think and NYC can do better. I for one don't see any Chinese style building illumination happening in NYC at all. NYC is all about tasteful lighting, not lighting up the city like a x-mas tree like you see in China.
Right on! That stuff doesn't belong anywhere in NYC, that'll cheapen the skyline. I hope they come up with something creative, 432 for example has a very cool lighting scheme in my opinion.
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This thing is ridiculously skinny. A semi-truck trailer blocked the site twice over!.
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107 West 57th St by towerpower123, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Old September 12th, 2013, 10:44 AM   #380
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^ That plot is almost as large as the abandoned/for sale land located right beside my house .
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