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Old January 12th, 2018, 04:25 PM   #3801
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Can't wait until it gets high enough where the sunlight hits it.
As the building and the sun both rise (after the winter solstice) it won't be long.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 08:16 AM   #3802
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lots of small details on this tower. The bronze on this side forms an art deco motif on the glass.


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Old January 15th, 2018, 03:20 AM   #3803
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Old January 15th, 2018, 06:31 AM   #3804
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The floor plate is so tiny. Look how big the construction workers appear here in comparrision to other towers.
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Old January 15th, 2018, 08:24 AM   #3805
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The floor plate is so tiny. Look how big the construction workers appear here in comparison to other towers.
Yes, but there are only two elevators in this building (see the white tarp for the extent of the elevator footprint) so there is more open space than usual (as a percentage of total floor area). The stairs are over at the left side of the building, BTW.

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Old January 15th, 2018, 06:52 PM   #3806
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I know modern engineering and new concretes blah blah blah, but I can't get over how dangerously thin this building looks.
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Old January 15th, 2018, 06:59 PM   #3807
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You are admiring the new techniques and materials we use nowadays. I don´t view that as granted, rather as a marvel. So despite the technological understanding of how that all works out, it´s still understandable that you are still blown away by this building.

The question is, will we ever see a building with a crazier height to width ratio than this one?
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Old January 15th, 2018, 10:33 PM   #3808
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I know modern engineering and new concretes blah blah blah, but I can't get over how dangerously thin this building looks.
An enormous amount of testing goes into these things; and there are a huge number of constraints and guidelines

plus it's obviously in the business owner's interest to have a building that is safe considering it cost like a billion dollars to build and going to want to make their money back; and a safe building means cheaper insurance
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Old January 16th, 2018, 12:32 AM   #3809
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You are admiring the new techniques and materials we use nowadays. I don´t view that as granted, rather as a marvel. So despite the technological understanding of how that all works out, it´s still understandable that you are still blown away by this building.

The question is, will we ever see a building with a crazier height to width ratio than this one?
I don't understand the engineering. I just know that it exists, and I too am marveled by it and subsequently blown away by this building.
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Old January 16th, 2018, 10:46 AM   #3810
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I don't understand the engineering. I just know that it exists, and I too am marveled by it and subsequently blown away by this building.
As long as the building isn't blown away by the next hurricane.
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Old January 16th, 2018, 04:01 PM   #3811
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Old January 16th, 2018, 06:58 PM   #3812
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As long as the building isn't blown away by the next hurricane.
Actually a bigger concern is an unexpectedly large or shallow earthquake. Example the Tangshan earthquake in 1976.
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Old January 16th, 2018, 09:09 PM   #3813
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I will be very surprised if the sway inside the building isn't very noticeable by the inhabitants.
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Old January 17th, 2018, 02:09 AM   #3816
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I will be very surprised if the sway inside the building isn't very noticeable by the inhabitants.
I live in a high rise a quarter of the size of 111 and it’s noticeable when it sways in strong winds. You don’t really “feel” it. But you’ll see your drapes start swinging. Also you’ll probably hear creaks and groans. Mass tuned dampers should help. But a building this tall is gonna move, as it should.
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Old January 18th, 2018, 07:39 AM   #3817
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Do the blank walls provide a lot of extra structursl support?
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Old January 18th, 2018, 09:18 AM   #3818
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Old January 18th, 2018, 11:42 AM   #3819
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I live in a high rise a quarter of the size of 111 and it’s noticeable when it sways in strong winds. You don’t really “feel” it. But you’ll see your drapes start swinging. Also you’ll probably hear creaks and groans. Mass tuned dampers should help. But a building this tall is gonna move, as it should.
I remember watching a film about the people who work in the John Hancock Center in Chigago who said the you can visibly see and feel the building swaying from side to side up to 6 feet in high winds.
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Old January 19th, 2018, 05:49 AM   #3820
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I live in a high rise a quarter of the size of 111 and it’s noticeable when it sways in strong winds. You don’t really “feel” it. But you’ll see your drapes start swinging. Also you’ll probably hear creaks and groans. Mass tuned dampers should help. But a building this tall is gonna move, as it should.
A quarter of the size of 111...? Where, how?
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