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Old October 15th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #641
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Oh man, this looks incredible
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Old October 15th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #642
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All it needs now is financing. It shouldn't be too hard except if the economy crumbles, once again (2007-08).
I don't think that will happen, western economies are more stable now and not so dependant on the banking industry and financial sector, this should get financing easily, the whole world seems to be investing their money in New York and London right now, let the good times roll
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Old October 15th, 2013, 09:18 PM   #643
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Yes.
nice!
was just wondering cause I thought it might've still need permission from the council for numerous stages etc but great news again!

how long would this take to get financing? I'm guessing the building will start rising in around a year due to digging and foundations on top
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Old October 15th, 2013, 09:24 PM   #644
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How deep do we think they'll have to dig the foundations for this? A building so thin, you'd think they really need to anchor it deep.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 09:36 PM   #645
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The Landmarks Preservation Commission was sort of surprisingly okay with SHoP Architects' proposed 1,350-foot residential tower at 107 West 57th Street, the site of the landmarked Steinway Building (which will also be restored), when it was presented two weeks ago. While the commissioners did have a few concerns, they were for the most part related to the Steinway Building and not to the tower itself. At a second presentation this morning, SHoP addressed those concerns, revising their plans to demolish a much smaller portion of the structure taking up the Steinway Building's back courtyard and replacing the glass of the 57th Street atrium facade with a much clearer single-layered glass, so that observers at street level would be able to look through and see the landmarked building. The plans were approved, and so the 1,350-foot climb begins.



Does anyone have images of this back courtyard of the Steinway building?

Also, from the street level render of 111 W 57th, pedestrians could see through the glass just fine to see the re-clad east side of the Steinway, which might have been partially or completely blocked by a tower set right next to it, not set deep in the plot as the current plan. Won't single-layered glass be LESS LEED-COMPLIANT OH MY GOD.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #646
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damn, i hope this gets financed as soon as possible
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Old October 15th, 2013, 09:44 PM   #647
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How deep do we think they'll have to dig the foundations for this? A building so thin, you'd think they really need to anchor it deep.
Probably about the same as 432 Park...there core and main column footings are about 60' down from grade. But you really do not have to go very deep (as little as ten feet in midtown to hit bedrock) The only reason they went as deep as they did at 432 is for garage and basement services..they blasted for 4-5 months as in some part sof the site rock was right on the surface...Many holes were drilled directly into the living rock then huge rebar cemented into the holes in the rock...footings were then poured on top...you an go back through the pictures of 432 and see exactly what they did...midtown foundations are incredibly strong.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 11:03 PM   #648
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Awesome!!! Let's get this bad boy going!
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Old October 15th, 2013, 11:30 PM   #649
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Should be interesting to see the original wall of the neighbouring building through the ultra clear glass of this tower's lobby, from the outside.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 04:56 PM   #650
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http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1486771

Narrow tower, higher than Empire State Building, wins city approval
SHoP Architects-designed building on W. 57th St. is called 'daring' by Landmarks Commission. And it's not even the biggest tower in town.

By Matt Chaban
October 15, 2013


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Ever want to look down on the Empire State Building? How about from your apartment?

In three years, well-heeled buyers will be able to do that from the top floors of a 1,350-foot tower that won approval Tuesday.

The building’s roofline is 100 feet higher than New York’s famous skyscraper — minus its iconic antenna — and will rise like a serrated knife next to Steinway Hall on W. 57th St.

The new-old tandem, due for completion in 2016, will contain about 100 apartments. Construction should start next spring, and the famed piano company will move out of its 1925 home.

The designers said they got their inspiration for the sleek structure from early cloud-busters such as the Empire State and Woolworth buildings. “It really comes from ... these slender, tapering towers (but) rethinks them in a totally modern way,” said Gregg Pasquarelli, principal at SHoP Architects.

The tower would have only been 697 feet until the developers bought Steinway Hall — a deal that allowed for the building’s height to double, but also gave the Landmarks Preservation Commission the final say.

The approval was a no brainer, members said.

“It represents the best of both worlds of new construction and design and historic preservation,” Commission Chairman Robert Tierney said Tuesday.

Fellow commissioner Fred Bland called the combo “daring and smart.”

At only 60 feet wide, the JDS Development and Property Markets Group tower appears to defy gravity.

“It may be the skinniest building ever,” Pasquarelli said. “The ratio is something like 25-to-1.”

But it won’t be alone, as a parade of supertalls now march down W. 57th St.

Developer Gary Barnett is finishing up his 1,005-foot One57 on the other end of the block, and he also has plans for a 1,432-footer across from Carnegie Hall. And Harry Macklowe is currently building his 1,397-foot 432 Park Ave. on the eastern end of the stretch.

But Pasquarelli insisted his will be the best.

“It’s not something that could be been plucked off the skyline of Singapore or Hong Kong,” he said. “We’re all New York.”
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^Construction should start in spring with completion date in 2016!
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Old October 16th, 2013, 05:28 PM   #652
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^Construction should start in spring with completion date in 2016!
Hopefully financing won't be a great deal. I love this tower already.
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Hopefully financing won't be a great deal. I love this tower already.
if the developer says target date for breaking ground is in the spring of 2014, then I assume he is in the process and very close to securing.

I agree this tower will be a gem in the NY skyline. Epic.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 06:59 PM   #654
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So this will maybe start together with torre verre
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Old October 16th, 2013, 08:10 PM   #655
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A race!
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Old October 16th, 2013, 08:23 PM   #656
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Doesn't feel like much of a race, considering the way things have been going for Verre. It's getting lapped.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 12:59 AM   #657
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This tower is only 13.23 FAR (23,123 square foot lot and 306,000 square feet of "zoning floor area"). Imagine what might have happened with the 20-30 FAR they are talking about for the portion near Grand Central as part of the Midtown East re-zoning. There were limitations for this lot due to the landmarked building, but many future sites won't have that issue.





It didn't occur to me until now, but maybe they are encouraging tall buildings lining Park Avenue because it is so wide.


BTW, the Midtown East rezoning has passed the City Planning Commission, and should receive a final vote from the City Council sometime in November.

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Old October 17th, 2013, 01:09 AM   #658
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I would have thought the bonus FAR only applies to office space, at least that is how it works at the Hudson Yards.
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I would have thought the bonus FAR only applies to office space, at least that is how it works at the Hudson Yards.
For the midtown zoning, there was talk about allowing a portion of residential space in the new zoning (something like 20%) but I'm not sure if that what was OK'ed by the City Planning Commission.
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For the midtown zoning, there was talk about allowing a portion of residential space in the new zoning (something like 20%) but I'm not sure if that what was OK'ed by the City Planning Commission.
Yes the residential component was a crucial element for the plan being approved by the city.
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