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Old October 17th, 2013, 03:34 AM   #661
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I don't fully understand. Is this issue about not being able to build this tower because it's going to be on top of a landmarked building? And then they're only demolishing a small part to make a compromise? That's smart. But am I right about the issue?

Also, why is the Steinway Building a landmark? Because all I know is that Steinway is the most famous piano company in the world.

And one final question: is "Steinway Tower" a nickname for this building that's about to be constructed? Because it'd be much more easier than calling it "107 West 57th Street" or "111 West 57th Street" or whatever. I want to call it the "Stairways to Heaven", but it doesn't exactly sound like a name. It's more like the "World Cultural Center" or something like that.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 05:47 AM   #663
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Recently, the Steinway building has had this above the entrance:




But the following photos from 1925 (the year The Steinway was completed) show the original sign, which will hopefully be replicated during the coming renovation:














Nice view of the upper reaches of the building, also from 1925:










Here's an interior shot from 1925, showing the now-landmarked interior. The old rug looks so much better than the current green one:




A look at the building recently, showing the roofs:

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Old October 17th, 2013, 07:37 AM   #664
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The Skinniest Skyscraper In NYC Is One Step Closer To Reality;

http://gizmodo.com/the-skinniest-sky...o-r-1446563249
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Old October 17th, 2013, 08:12 AM   #665
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^ Why do they have to be so awkward with the thinnest, tallest tower description. Just say thinnest supertall. Done simple.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 01:50 PM   #666
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The "Proposed Supertalls" section shows 12 projects for NYC alone (1 on hold, several in prep). 4 are u/c, and 4 completed. So we already got 20 (min.). It's time for some towers go get off the ground!
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Old October 17th, 2013, 03:39 PM   #667
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I don't fully understand. Is this issue about not being able to build this tower because it's going to be on top of a landmarked building? And then they're only demolishing a small part to make a compromise? That's smart. But am I right about the issue?

Also, why is the Steinway Building a landmark? Because all I know is that Steinway is the most famous piano company in the world.

And one final question: is "Steinway Tower" a nickname for this building that's about to be constructed? Because it'd be much more easier than calling it "107 West 57th Street" or "111 West 57th Street" or whatever. I want to call it the "Stairways to Heaven", but it doesn't exactly sound like a name. It's more like the "World Cultural Center" or something like that.
I think the Steinway Hall is a great example of New York's heritage architecture and I'm really pleased it is being restored and not demolished. The city has lost far too many masonry clad buildings to be replaced with glass and steel which becomes very boring when there are too many. Good also that because of it's height it is going to be slim and therefore not too dominating.
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Old October 18th, 2013, 12:03 AM   #668
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Diagram is up!

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Old October 18th, 2013, 12:08 AM   #669
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I don't like, tooooo thin
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Old October 18th, 2013, 05:29 AM   #670
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Love the new diagram of 107 W 57th! But the roof height is erroneously set to 1000 feet. I'll drop a message in the thread over there.

BTW, SSP is calling the building "111 W 57th". That's what the development LLC is called, and that is the ritziest address Extell can select. It's like poker: 3-of-a-kind.


Nice view of the Steinway from above. Some fantastic views will be possible from the roof of the Steinway once all these huge towers are up.


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Old October 18th, 2013, 12:42 PM   #671
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the roof height was set because the ctbuh data once featured this as a roof, seeing that they removed it i think i can change the roof height.

the name on SSP is set to the one CTBUH features but under the name you can see that it also features the whole plot for the project. 105-111
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Old October 18th, 2013, 01:46 PM   #672
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Old October 19th, 2013, 08:03 AM   #673
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Old October 19th, 2013, 10:41 AM   #674
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Nice tower............................
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Old October 19th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #675
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the roof height was set because the ctbuh data once featured this as a roof, seeing that they removed it i think i can change the roof height.

the name on SSP is set to the one CTBUH features but under the name you can see that it also features the whole plot for the project. 105-111

Midtown Manhattan has a lot of bulky and tall towers, so tall, thin towers are perfect imho to break the plateau. There are enough fat (office) buildings going up in the city (WTC, HY).

I know you made a comparison with the skinny Dubai Marina Towers, but you really can't compare it with New York. Midtown (and other parts of the city for that matter) is so dense and tall, that developers have no chance but to build taller in order to provide the best views.
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Might as well change the name of this supertall to 111 West 57th:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=407
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Old October 19th, 2013, 08:23 PM   #677
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This is a picture of some guy that went to the exhibit at the Skyscraper Museum. Unfortunately, even if you zoom in at the maximum size, the texts are blurry and unreadable.

It would be cool if somebody going to that exhibit takes more detailed pictures of those drawings along with the accompanying text.

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Skyscraper Museum por virtualawrence, en Flickr
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Midtown Manhattan has a lot of bulky and tall towers, so tall, thin towers are perfect imho to break the plateau. There are enough fat (office) buildings going up in the city (WTC, HY).

I know you made a comparison with the skinny Dubai Marina Towers, but you really can't compare it with New York. Midtown (and other parts of the city for that matter) is so dense and tall, that developers have no chance but to build taller in order to provide the best views.
not sure what it had to do with the post of mine you quoted, but yes that is a very thoughtful observation. i am not sure how close the buildings in new york are and if they really are spread out they will indeed not give that dubai marina feel where all buildings are right next to each other and also there is another building planned in new york that might become the tallest and might have not a thin appearance which also would break that up and take attention off of the very thin buildings a bit and instead make them side towers which thin buildings are perfect for. I might still prefer the hudson yard and Downtown area over midtown though, they just feel like they do not have so many "unique" buildings that kind of all try to get attention of the skyline.
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not sure what it had to do with the post of mine you quoted, but yes that is a very thoughtful observation. i am not sure how close the buildings in new york are and if they really are spread out they will indeed not give that dubai marina feel where all buildings are right next to each other and also there is another building planned in new york that might become the tallest and might have not a thin appearance which also would break that up and take attention off of the very thin buildings a bit and instead make them side towers which thin buildings are perfect for. I might still prefer the hudson yard and Downtown area over midtown though, they just feel like they do not have so many "unique" buildings that kind of all try to get attention of the skyline.
I somehow quoted the wrong post.

Yes, I know what you mean by that Dubai Marina "feeling". For now, all the supertalls are quite spread out. We have three main clusters: WTC, HY, 57th. The only problem I see is 57th, where many towers are of similar height (434m,426m,411m). That's why so many of us hoped 225W57th would be at least 500m. The CPS skyline corridor needs a peek.
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yeah a peak is needed and that peak should not be as thin as the other towers. didn't think 225W would be 500m tall, only heard rumors about that shvo building as a potential tallest candidate.
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