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Old November 7th, 2013, 12:02 AM   #741
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From the Yahoo video. Maybe a bit clearer than the render versions we'd had:
And they fixed that horrific One57 photoshop job!! Thank God, my OCD brain can sleep at night.
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Old November 7th, 2013, 12:24 AM   #742
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Because of regulations?
I don't know why, but residential projects always are concrete, and office projects always are steel.
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Old November 7th, 2013, 12:40 AM   #743
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Maybe it's because companies want their office spaces to be more 'flexible'
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Old November 7th, 2013, 02:12 AM   #744
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I don't know why, but residential projects always are concrete, and office projects always are steel.
Probably concrete is more soundproof and increases the value?
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Old November 7th, 2013, 02:28 AM   #745
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It's because office space requires much longer spans between supporting columns to allow more flexibility for the tenants when moving into the large, more open space. Residential buildings use concrete because having less space between columns isn't as big a deal, for little floor plan flexibility is needed for residential buildings because interior layouts need not be nearly as flexible.
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Old November 7th, 2013, 09:26 AM   #746
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It was discussed many times before, and it seems the most important reason why they use concrete is because it's more stable than steel. If you build apartments that goes for tens of millions you want them to be as little "shaky" as possible. With offices it's not that big of a concern.
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Old November 7th, 2013, 07:07 PM   #747
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The Slenderest Building in the World
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/1..._the_world.php

Some more details about 107 West 57th Street, soon to become the word's most slender building:

-with a floor plate of around 60 feet
-height of over 1,300 feet
-building will have only three elevators and each floor will be its own 5,000 sf apt w/ 15-foot ceilings.
-There will be 45 apartments in total.

A huge steel weight will be suspended within the top of the building to stop it from swaying in the wind
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Old November 7th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #748
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Yes. This thing.

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They say this thing will indeed have (huge) tuned mass dumper. And they say it will be placed somewhere at the top of the building





This tower is truly extreme
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It was discussed many times before, and it seems the most important reason why they use concrete is because it's more stable than steel. If you build apartments that goes for tens of millions you want them to be as little "shaky" as possible. With offices it's not that big of a concern.
Yup, that is true, though in the recent years concrete dominates even the office tower industry. For example the WTC buildings are mostly concrete with only their perimeter being steel. Asian towers have a concrete core like 1WTC though even part of their perimeter columns is concrete. That is really a difefrence from the steel only buildings of the late 20th century
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Old November 7th, 2013, 08:43 PM   #750
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Didn't the development of One WTC's "super concrete" formula actually have a lot to do with this?
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Old November 7th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #751
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Yup, those were the advances in concrete technology I mentioned might be responsible for this trend. The question remaining though is, is this all that is to it, or are there other advances or factors involved too?
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Old November 7th, 2013, 10:47 PM   #752
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Nearly all towers currently build have concrete cores. Show me one super tall that doesn't. When I commented on concrete towers I obviously meant those fully concrete not partially.
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Does Sky City have a concrete core?
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Old November 7th, 2013, 10:57 PM   #754
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I think we don't know that for sure yet. If it's going to be build as fast as they say it would I guess it wont. But still it's a completely new technology that so far have never been used. So obviously now when we talk about steel towers we mean towers like 1wt, shanghai tower and the likes. I mean especially in this context. Otherwise asking questions for reasons of using concrete in this tower would be completely pointless if all towers have some. They guy obviously meant why this tower would be fully concrete and not just core.
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Old November 9th, 2013, 05:55 AM   #755
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I really like this thing. I think it has a classic New York look.
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Old November 9th, 2013, 06:32 AM   #756
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I think the officially street name of the building is 111 west 57 street. Since that's what the directors and architectures called it in the video.
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Buildings like these encompass several parcels of land, thus several appropriate addresses. You can use whichever you prefer.
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The side windows of 111 west 57 kind of reminds me of the WTC twin towers thin windows being covered by steel or concrete arches or like the version building, kind of hard to explain.

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Old November 9th, 2013, 05:42 PM   #759
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Buildings like these encompass several parcels of land, thus several appropriate addresses. You can use whichever you prefer.
Or they give it a real name, like the ''Steinway Tower''.
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Old November 9th, 2013, 06:23 PM   #760
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The side windows of 111 west 57 kind of reminds me of the WTC twin towers thin windows being covered by steel or concrete arches or like the version building, kind of hard to explain.
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I would like to see a detailed render of this side. The model doesn't look convincing.
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