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Old November 7th, 2014, 12:16 AM   #1581
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if I remember correctly, the highest occupied floor was at 1200 ft when they said the total height would be around 1350 ft.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 12:39 AM   #1582
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Wow, New York may have 4 1500ft+ towers by 2020.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 07:04 AM   #1583
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I'm still a bit confused,lol.... we appear to have a nice sized crown.. is it 80 floors, then the mechanical ones making up the crown? Is it 1,397 ft to the roof, and then the crown or 1,397 including the crown? Please smack me if I ask again, lol!
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Old November 7th, 2014, 08:50 AM   #1584
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Wow, that crown is big. This building will almost certainly be 1,500 ft. to tip of crown.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 09:27 AM   #1585
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Looks like something I could've thrown into Minecraft back in the day. Not that that's a bad thing.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 11:32 AM   #1586
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from this place, this tower looks awesome!

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Old November 7th, 2014, 02:33 PM   #1587
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I'm still a bit confused,lol.... we appear to have a nice sized crown.. is it 80 floors, then the mechanical ones making up the crown? Is it 1,397 ft to the roof, and then the crown or 1,397 including the crown? Please smack me if I ask again, lol!
Depends if the crown counts as a solid structure (i.e. roof) or more like a thick glassy spire (like in this case).
According to the CTBUH the highest occupied floor of One57 is at 903'.

It would be so cool if 111W ends up 1,500ft+. But a solid 1,400 footer isn't that bad either.

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Amenity Space – 7 & 8
Duplex Apartments – 57th & 64 to 71
Quadplex Apartment – 72 - 75
Mechanical / Machine Room: 76 - 79
Mass Damper: 80
So yes, the crown starts with floor 80.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 02:51 PM   #1588
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It will be interesting to see how this has effected the design!
There's a chance that the crown now partly has floors in it... who knows?

But this tower will be insanely slender if it even has an increase of 50ft! I'm just wondering how this will effect the stepping slope at the back; can't wait to see what it looks like with the new height!
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Old November 7th, 2014, 03:00 PM   #1589
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^ I thought of that, but I don't think that glassy crown has any floors. See here --> http://s14.directupload.net/images/141106/sff8y9n2.png

The mass damper is located at floor 80 (last floor). Source: http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/BS...de=ES917143780 , page 9. The solid structure ends there.

We shall see.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 03:14 PM   #1590
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Fair enough!

But this must mean that the floor plans on some floors have changed, because to accommodate more floors, the square footage has to be rearranged, so I wonder if this means more apartments have balconies on the 'steps'? This would make sense as None of the other towers have these (other than the odd penthouse), which is a great marketing ploy!

Or what this could also mean is that structural elements have taken up more floor space, because they want to make it higher to have allowed for that compromise.

This will make the tower look much more slender from the East and West sides
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Old November 7th, 2014, 03:43 PM   #1591
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All these tall skinny buildings will transform New York into "toothpick city". A few of them are great, but after that it begins to reshape the skyline into something that may not be entirely desirable.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 04:40 PM   #1592
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All these tall skinny buildings will transform New York into "toothpick city". A few of them are great, but after that it begins to reshape the skyline into something that may not be entirely desirable.
Tall skinny buildings. A new look for New York, to be sure. Never seen anything like it.

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Almost same as the view from top of the 432 Park Avenue. (74 years later)


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Old November 7th, 2014, 08:56 PM   #1594
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What does that "no floors at 20th, 22nd, 24th, 26th fls double space height below" mean?

Do they just drop these floor numbers, or is this some trick to keep the FAR, but boost the height of the building and of the top floor appartments?
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Old November 7th, 2014, 09:09 PM   #1595
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I think it's mostly a way for them to market the building as having more floors than it actually does. There are only 55 units, each with their own floor, but a "55 story" tower isn't very impressive in the sales materials.

Some of the units at the top actually will be duplexes and one will be a fourplex, but it sounds like the ones you mentioned (20-26) are just single floor units with double-height ceilings. It might be more accurate for them to call them floors 20/21, 22/23, 24/25, etc.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 11:59 PM   #1596
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What does that "no floors at 20th, 22nd, 24th, 26th fls double space height below" mean?

Do they just drop these floor numbers, or is this some trick to keep the FAR, but boost the height of the building and of the top floor appartments?
The answer is both. They preserve the FAR by boosting the height and eliminating floors, but still keep the symbolic floor counts for marketing purposes.

I wonder if there will be a point in time where views are so valuable, that you can build supertalls with almost no FAR. In other words, just build something like the CN Tower or something, with a residence on the top. The value of the height will be so great that it will make sense to build an empty box with just a few residential floors at the top.
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Old November 8th, 2014, 01:06 AM   #1597
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To celebrate the good news, here's a goodie ...


Future NYC Skyline 2018 by cityrealty_nyc, on Flickr
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Old November 8th, 2014, 01:08 AM   #1598
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What's the building next to Bloomberg tower?
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Old November 8th, 2014, 01:13 AM   #1599
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I believe that's 143 E. 60th, which we don't know that much about, but expect to be similarly scaled to 252 E. 57th.
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Old November 8th, 2014, 04:42 AM   #1600
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"Boobs Kowaltchuk" had his truck in the way so I couldn't get a good picture. It did look like they were a little bit lower, but this is him and someone else, both wearing white sweatshirts and jeans.
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