First Hill Pictures, Projects, etc... - Page 2

Capitol Hill · April 11th, 2012, 10:52 PM

I know those are just massing studies, but could we at least try and make it not look like 1973 redux?

LCIII · April 11th, 2012, 10:58 PM

I don't hate them.

mSeattle · April 11th, 2012, 11:05 PM

Is that housing? Looks like office buildings.

LCIII · April 11th, 2012, 11:49 PM

Yah it's housing. Obviously it's just a very early massing study so maybe it will get better through the process.

Doomgoggles · April 12th, 2012, 01:36 AM

That's exactly what First Hill needs right now. Residential high-rise replacing surface lots. Not as tall as we'd like, but I'll take it.

Like I keep saying: First Hill Plaza is so lonely! Let's build some counterparts for it!

CityView Jim · April 26th, 2012, 04:29 AM

A couple new residential projects. Just preliminary designs for massing at this point:

504 Terry (and Jefferson): http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/G...endaID3577.pdf

1321 Seneca (and Boylston): http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/G...endaID3578.pdf

LCIII · April 26th, 2012, 09:53 AM

Glad those are finally posted online. Those are the two projects we've been talking about for the past 2 pages.

bgwah · April 26th, 2012, 10:14 AM

504 Terry's preferred massing looks cool.

CityView Jim · April 26th, 2012, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgwah

504 Terry's preferred massing looks cool.

I like the location of this one too. Not a lot of multi-res (hi rise at least) in this area. Wondering if this project is being boosted by its proximity to a streetcar stop (at Broadway and Boren).

CrazyAboutCities · April 26th, 2012, 06:39 PM

I like how both towers will add some density in First Hill. I hope both tower designs will get better. I am not too crazy about facades.

Capitol Hill · April 26th, 2012, 09:09 PM

Seneca and Boylston ground floor shows some retail/live/work units facing Boylston. I think this is a mistake, and they should design good residential only facing Boylston. That is not a retail street, and it doesn't have much potential for it either.

mhays · April 26th, 2012, 09:29 PM

I agree with that.

Madison has potential for retail. Why in the hell would they (zoning) want to detract from that by spreading it around.

Live/work sounds sensible. Basically townhouses on a side street.

Capitol Hill · April 26th, 2012, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhays

I agree with that.

Madison has potential for retail. Why in the hell would they (zoning) want to detract from that by spreading it around.

Live/work sounds sensible. Basically townhouses on a side street.

I knew you'd have my back on that one.

LCIII · April 27th, 2012, 09:45 AM

From DJC:

RMacherat · April 27th, 2012, 10:00 AM

Isn't it a little too precious? Great if it was 30 stories taller. And in Dubai.

mSeattle · April 27th, 2012, 11:29 PM

I like that. Are we leaving the slanted roof phase and entering the off-set cube phase?

Doomgoggles · April 28th, 2012, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMacherat

Isn't it a little too precious? Great if it was 30 stories taller. And in Dubai.

No. I love it! Really sets off First Hill Plaza. We need a big variety of high-rises in this neighbourhood.

Doomgoggles · May 5th, 2012, 10:04 PM

So I was driving around this part of First Hill yesterday:

http://g.co/maps/mmpte

And I noticed that most of the streets really suck. They're not wide enough to be either arterials or complete streets, and the arterial network is not comprehensive at all. Excessive street parking, narrow streets, lack of signage and signals, un-maintained pavement...

For many of us, seeing First Hill develop into an extension of downtown the way Denny has would be a dream come true, but I can't see that happening unless the street grid is fixed, and I haven't heard any plans. I know SDOT is basically out of money for street projects.

What say the experts?

Rogue Linguist · May 6th, 2012, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhays

I agree with that.

Madison has potential for retail. Why in the hell would they (zoning) want to detract from that by spreading it around.

Live/work sounds sensible. Basically townhouses on a side street.

As Mother RuPaul would say, "Can I get an amen up in here?"

Rogue Linguist · May 6th, 2012, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomgoggles

So I was driving around this part of First Hill yesterday:

http://g.co/maps/mmpte

And I noticed that most of the streets really suck. They're not wide enough to be either arterials or complete streets, and the arterial network is not comprehensive at all. Excessive street parking, narrow streets, lack of signage and signals, un-maintained pavement...

For many of us, seeing First Hill develop into an extension of downtown the way Denny has would be a dream come true, but I can't see that happening unless the street grid is fixed, and I haven't heard any plans. I know SDOT is basically out of money for street projects.

What say the experts?

Funding and expertise aside, it would be nice to see a high concentration of neighbourhood-oriented retail along a small number of streets. Namely Madison.

April 11th, 2012, 10:52 PM	#21
Capitol Hill Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,389 Likes (Received): 158	I know those are just massing studies, but could we at least try and make it not look like 1973 redux? __________________ After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF

April 11th, 2012, 11:05 PM	#23
mSeattle Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 809 Likes (Received): 11	Is that housing? Looks like office buildings. __________________ *Too Much DOUBT - Troy Davis ExecutionYOU are Commander In Chief* of your body. Remember Bradley Manning.**

April 26th, 2012, 09:09 PM	#31
Capitol Hill Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,389 Likes (Received): 158	Seneca and Boylston ground floor shows some retail/live/work units facing Boylston. I think this is a mistake, and they should design good residential only facing Boylston. That is not a retail street, and it doesn't have much potential for it either. __________________ After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF

April 27th, 2012, 11:29 PM	#36
mSeattle Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 809 Likes (Received): 11	I like that. Are we leaving the slanted roof phase and entering the off-set cube phase? __________________ *Too Much DOUBT - Troy Davis ExecutionYOU are Commander In Chief* of your body. Remember Bradley Manning.**

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April 11th, 2012, 10:58 PM	#22
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,866 Likes (Received): 60	I don't hate them.

April 11th, 2012, 11:49 PM	#24
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,866 Likes (Received): 60	Yah it's housing. Obviously it's just a very early massing study so maybe it will get better through the process.

April 12th, 2012, 01:36 AM	#25
Doomgoggles Unregistered non-user Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle/Kitsap Posts: 739 Likes (Received): 39	That's exactly what First Hill needs right now. Residential high-rise replacing surface lots. Not as tall as we'd like, but I'll take it. Like I keep saying: First Hill Plaza is so lonely! Let's build some counterparts for it!

April 26th, 2012, 04:29 AM	#26
CityView Jim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,960 Likes (Received): 62	A couple new residential projects. Just preliminary designs for massing at this point: 504 Terry (and Jefferson): http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/G...endaID3577.pdf 1321 Seneca (and Boylston): http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/G...endaID3578.pdf

April 26th, 2012, 09:53 AM	#27
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,866 Likes (Received): 60	Glad those are finally posted online. Those are the two projects we've been talking about for the past 2 pages.

April 26th, 2012, 10:14 AM	#28
bgwah honk!!! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,739 Likes (Received): 76	504 Terry's preferred massing looks cool.

April 26th, 2012, 06:39 PM	#30
CrazyAboutCities Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 8,329 Likes (Received): 15	I like how both towers will add some density in First Hill. I hope both tower designs will get better. I am not too crazy about facades.

April 26th, 2012, 09:29 PM	#32
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,376 Likes (Received): 119	I agree with that. Madison has potential for retail. Why in the hell would they (zoning) want to detract from that by spreading it around. Live/work sounds sensible. Basically townhouses on a side street.

April 27th, 2012, 09:45 AM	#34
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,866 Likes (Received): 60	From DJC:

April 27th, 2012, 10:00 AM	#35
RMacherat Buy used books Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,721 Likes (Received): 84	Isn't it a little too precious? Great if it was 30 stories taller. And in Dubai.

May 5th, 2012, 10:04 PM	#38
Doomgoggles Unregistered non-user Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle/Kitsap Posts: 739 Likes (Received): 39	So I was driving around this part of First Hill yesterday: http://g.co/maps/mmpte And I noticed that most of the streets really suck. They're not wide enough to be either arterials or complete streets, and the arterial network is not comprehensive at all. Excessive street parking, narrow streets, lack of signage and signals, un-maintained pavement... For many of us, seeing First Hill develop into an extension of downtown the way Denny has would be a dream come true, but I can't see that happening unless the street grid is fixed, and I haven't heard any plans. I know SDOT is basically out of money for street projects. What say the experts?