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Old March 19th, 2014, 08:10 PM   #241
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ESA December-March update:

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Old March 20th, 2014, 03:05 AM   #242
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What's with the Irish flag?

Anyway, this is an amazing project that will increase capacity into manhattan from long island. I always wondered whether it was possible to turn the commuter rail lines into New York's very own RER or BART system. Unite the different systems and have them run more often every couple minutes like a separate, faster metro system. This would open up the region to more people, leading to a much unified and dynamic metropolitan area similar to the Bay area, DC or even LA.

The way things are now, I feel it limits the regions ability to be competitive and prosper to its full potential especially outside of the city limits. The city dominates the entire region too much, which has caused the suburbs to be devoid of much commerce, entertainment, cultural attractions etc. The metropolitan area is too "compartmentalized".
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Old March 20th, 2014, 05:46 AM   #243
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Oh I thought it was the Italian flag, but I guess it is more orangey isn't it? Probably just graffiti from the workers along with all the other markings.

But yeah so true about the rail system. That's the holy grail of any large metro area but I suppose it all comes down to funding. There are significant parts of the commuter rail services in the Tri-state area that aren't even electrified, so that would have to be addressed before the central area was made into an RER or BART type system since if there was still traditional diesel locomotive hauled services they'd need to be separated.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 08:33 AM   #244
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Old March 20th, 2014, 02:14 PM   #245
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St Patrick's Day perhaps?
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A subway motorman was spanked by the MTA for participating — on his day off — in the No Pants Subway Ride in January.

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What is the main reason for building ESA? Is this a difference for LIRR between terminating at Pennsylvania Station or Gran Central? Why ESA is so important?
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What is the main reason for building ESA? Is this a difference for LIRR between terminating at Pennsylvania Station or Gran Central? Why ESA is so important?
Grand Central is closer to the main core of Midtown Manhattan's Jobs. A decent amount transfer at Jamaica or Penn Station and use the already overstressed subway network to reach that section of Midtown. This project will reduce the stress on the subways along with doubling capacity for the LIRR and freeing up capacity for the MNRR 2 new routes into Penn Station.
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So there will be kind of diversification. Having analysed maps and schedules I understood that LIRR terminates on Penn Station and MNRR mainly goes to Grand Central (of course excluding lines terminating on Hoboken Terminal). There will be any future step other than ESA? What should be done to run MNRR New Heaven Line to run through Penn Station? And last but not least question - are there any plans to extend tracks from Grand Central to the east?
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Analysing the Metro-North Railroad map I have found some infromation about future plans. The most interesting one - an extension that may allow trains to run from Grand Central towards New Heaven Line. Is this only a plan? What else could be said about future plans for MNRR?



And one question more - is there any website showing rail tracks in and around New York? I have found some map on Federal Railroad Administration but it was unsatisfactory for me... So, please help
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Analysing the Metro-North Railroad map I have found some infromation about future plans. The most interesting one - an extension that may allow trains to run from Grand Central towards New Heaven Line. Is this only a plan?
Were you looking at a map from the year 1850?
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This picture shows that there will be a connection between New Heaven Line and Penn Station? What should be done to build this?

from the post http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=107

So this will also allow MNRR trains to via East Side Access or to Penn Station? This is what I understood from wikipedia map: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ilroad_Map.svg
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This picture shows that there will be a connection between New Heaven Line and Penn Station? What should be done to build this?

from the post http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=107

So this will also allow MNRR trains to via East Side Access or to Penn Station? This is what I understood from wikipedia map: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ilroad_Map.svg
MNRR trains will head to Penn , LIRR trains will head to Penn and GCT
As for things that need to happen for train service to Penn Station for the MNRR

Hell Gate Line

-The New Rochelle switch needs to be grade seperated to allow for existing New Haven line service and New Penn Station access to co-exisit without causing delays. Theres 4-6 trains per hour offpeak and 1-4 Amtrak trains all using the junction now. During rush hr it tends to become a mess with 8-12 trains and 4-6 Amtraks. They would like to have a similar amount of MNRR trains running to Penn Station along with more Amtraks so this a major upgrade.

-Pelham Bay Bridge replacement ,this would allow for more trains to be added and faster speeds. The New Bridge would be fixed which would allow for speeds up to 110-125mph

-adding a 3rd and 4th track for more capacity
-Catenary Replacement
-New Substations
-4 initial Stations at Hunts Point , Parkchester , Morris Park & Co-Op City
-4 addition infill Stations @ Woodside / New Rochelle , Pelham Manor , City Island-Pelham Bay Park & Astoria

West Side Line

-Replacement of the Spuyten Duyvil Bridge Bridge and grade separation of MNRR Hudson Line switch to allow for more service without interrupting existing service

-Penn Station Capacity upgrades

-2 Initial Stations at West 62nd Street and West 125th Street
-2 Addition stations at West 165th Street / New York Presbyterian Hospital and Dyckman Street
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Thanks! That's clear. Let me ask again - do you know any map of New York tracks in internet?
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Analysing the Metro-North Railroad map I have found some information about future plans. The most interesting one - an extension that may allow trains to run from Grand Central towards New Heaven Line. Is this only a plan? What else could be said about future plans for MNRR?

And one question more - is there any website showing rail tracks in and around New York? I have found some map on Federal Railroad Administration but it was unsatisfactory for me... So, please help
There are stop and go plans to expand the system along numerous corridors and restore some lines.

- I-287 Railway project would run from Suffern to Spring Valley via the abandoned but preserved Oid Piermont Branch which would also extend Pascack Valley Line service back to Suffern , stations would include Hillburn , East Suffern , Airmont , Monsey and Spring Valley. Spring Valley to Tarrytown the line would use the Interstate ROW stopping at Nanuet-Route 59 , West Nyack and South Nyack. It would cross over the New Tappan Zee Bridge and in Tarrytown it would split. One line would continue to Port Chester and merge onto the New Haven line bound for Stamford and New Haven , after Tarrytown which would have a park and ride stop , stations would include Elmsford , Downtown White Plains , East White Plains , Purchase and onto Stamford / New Haven. Ridership Estimates are placed anywhere between 90 and 180,000 depending on who you ask. The whole project is on hold due to Politics... Here's a link to a station redevelopment study done by a few towns in Rockland county. http://www.rpa.org/pdf/RPATZCorridorFinal.pdf

-Danbury and Waterbury Upgrades would improve and expand service
-Straightening of curves for Speed improvements up to 80mph
-Reconstruction of grade crossings
-Replacement of old Railway Bridges and overpasses
-Electrification of both Branches
-Passing sidings for capacity expansion

Danbury Branch
-A 5th track extension in South Norwalk for Danbury line addition service
-Extension of the Danbury Line to New Milford with Stations at North Danbury , Brookfield and New Milford
-Infill Stations along the Danbury Branch at Wall Street in Norwalk and Georgetown

Waterbury Branch
-Extension of the Waterbury Branch to Torrington , with stations at Thomaston and Torrington
-Infill Stations along the Waterbury Branch at Wilbur Cross Parkway
-New Terminal Station at Devon on the New Haven line for addition Waterbury Service

Devon , Derby and Waterbury station upgrades http://www.ct.gov/dot/lib/dot/docume...web_part_3.pdf

These upgrades combined would cost 1.1 billion , its slowly moving...


There's the small New Canaan Branch upgrade
-would add a passing siding in Springdale
-replacement of the East Main Street overpass
-Second Platform at New Canaan Station
-New Station in East Stamford

This project will most likely get done by 2020 , theres a lot of redevelopment riding on this line. The East Stamford Station Plans. http://www.sustainablenyct.org/docs/...6.26.13_cl.pdf


The West Shore Line seems to bubbling up from the Surface recently. That would have Service running along the CSX River Line from Hoboken to Haverstraw or Newburgh

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