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Old May 17th, 2015, 04:11 AM   #601
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Why don't the DPL-45 engineers always use overhead power when they haven't available to them
I believe that you are referring to the last photo there?

I think that that DLP-45 is probably on a Raritan Valley Line consist that is deadheading to/from the Kearny Yard.

I seem to remember seeing a video showing one of these locomotives switching power. It has to be done at a station and takes about 2-3 minutes (though you don't need anybody to get out of the cab or anything). A Raritan Valley train would only be entering/leaving electric territory shortly before arrival at Newark and wouldn't have an opportunity to go electric. Then, it wouldn't be worth it to raise the pantograph for the short deadhead run to Kearny.

Why are they "wasting" a dual-drive loco on a diesel-only run? Several reasons are possible:

1) This just happens to be the first available engine and/or the newest.

2) This consist is tasked to make other runs through to Penn Station later and it would be difficult to switch engines out.
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Now this is why I love this site, very reasoned and in depth answers thank you very much, 00Zy99!!
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Long Island Railroad - Main Line at Jamaica Station
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Long Island Railroad - Main Line at Jamaica Station
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Long Island Railroad - Main Line at Jamaica Station
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Some Regional through running service ideas ive had... These routes would reactive a few abandoned urban lines along with utilizing dual voltage EMU Trains either for overhead & 3rd rail or for bottom and top contact 3rd rail lines. Trains would run every 10mins during rush hr and every 30mins offpeak. The Proposed Fulton Center & Union Square stations would be 3 stories beneath the current subway complex. The Union Square station would have 2 Island platforms with 4 tracks and same with Fulton Center. Both Stations would have platform screen doors and would be climate controlled...

Current , Proposed / Planned or Under Construction
Stations marked with a * are skipped during rush hour

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Line 1 / Service A - Harlem Line / Proposed : Lower Man Access / Atlantic Branch / Hempstead Branch / Central Branch
North White Plains
White Plains > Connect to the Proposed : Route 100 LRT
*Hartsdale
Scarsdale
*Crestwood
*Tuckahoe
Bronxville
Fleetwood
*Mount Vernon West
*Wakefield
Woodlawn
*Williams Bridge
*Botanical Gardens
Fordham
*Tremont
*Melrose
Harlem-125th Street

Grand Central
Union Square

Southbound trains switch to Top Contact 3rd Rail while Northbound Trains switch to Bottom Contact 3rd Rail
Fulton Center
Atlantic Terminal
*Nostrand Avenue
*East New York
*Woodhaven Junction> Connect to the Proposed : LIRR Rockaway Branch
Jamaica
*Hollis
*Francis Lewis Boulevard
Queens Village
*Bellerose
Floral Park
*Stewart Manor
*Nassau Boulevard
Garden City

Garden City JCT > Connect to the Proposed : LIRR / Oyster Bay Connector
East Garden City
Levittown - Wantagh State Parkway
Levittown (Underground)

*South Farmingdale
*North Lindenhurst
Babylon


Line 1 / Service B - Harlem Line / Proposed : Lower Man Access / Atlantic Branch / Babylon Branch
North White Plains
White Plains > Connect to the Proposed : Route 100 LRT
*Hartsdale
Scarsdale
*Crestwood
*Tuckahoe
Bronxville
Fleetwood
*Mount Vernon West
*Wakefield
Woodlawn
*Williams Bridge
*Botanical Gardens
Fordham
*Tremont
*Melrose
Harlem-125th Street

Grand Central
Union Square

Southbound trains switch to Top Contact 3rd Rail while Northbound Trains switch to Bottom Contact 3rd Rail
Fulton Center
Atlantic Terminal
*Nostrand Avenue
*East New York
*Woodhaven Junction > Connect to the Proposed : LIRR Rockaway Branch
Jamaica
Saint Albans
Valley Stream
Lynbrook
Rockville Centre
*Baldwin
Freeport
*Merrick
*Bellmore
*Wantagh
*Seaford
*Massapequa
Massapequa Park
*Amityville
*Copiague
Lindenhurst
Babylon


Line 2 / Service A - Morristown Line /Proposed : Lower Boonton Line / Proposed : Lower Manhattan Access / Atlantic Branch / Main Line / Port Jefferson Branch
Dover
Denville
*Mountain Lakes
Boonton
*Towaco
*Lincoln Park
*Mountain View-Wayne
Wayne-Route 23
*Little Falls
Montclair State University
*Montclair Heights
*Mountain Avenue
*Upper Montclair
*Watchung Avenue
Walnut Street
*Belleville Ave
[/B]Forest Hill JCT > Connect to the Proposed : West Orange LRT
North Broadway JCT > Connect to the Proposed : Newark - Paterson LRT
Kearny Avenue

*Kearny JCT
> Connect to the Proposed : Kingsland Branch
Eastbound Trains switch to Top Contact 3rd Rail while Westbound Trains switch to Overhead Catenary Wires Powered to 25kV/60Hz
Journal Square (Underground) > Connect to PATH Trains
Newport (underground)
> Connect to Hudson Bergen LRT
Fulton Center
Atlantic Terminal
*Nostrand Avenue
*East New York
*Woodhaven Junction > Connect to the Proposed : LIRR Rockaway Branch
Jamaica
Floral Park
*New Hyde Park
*Merillion Ave
Mineola
*Carle Place
*Westbury
Hicksville
Syosset
Cold Spring Harbor
Huntington


Line 2 / Service B - Morristown Line / Montuak Branch / LIRR Main Line
*This line would use Overhead Catenary Wires Powered to 25kV/60Hz its entire length , its tied in with my Northeast Intercity & HSR Network Plan which I will post in the coming weeks.
Philpsburg - Main Street
Washington

Hackettstown
*Mount Olive
*Netcong
*Lake Hopatcong
*Mount Arlington
Dover
Denville
*Mount Tabor
*Morris Plains
Morristown
*Convent Station
Madison
Chatham
Summit
Short Hills
*Millburn
*Maplewood
South Orange > Connect to the Proposed : South Orange Ave LRT
Orange
Brick Church
Newark Board Street > Connect to the Newark LRT Network
*Harrison

Secaucus JCT
New York Penn Station

*Maspeth
Ridgewood JCT > Connect to the Proposed : Tri-Boro Regional Link
Forest Hills JCT > Connect to the Proposed : LIRR Rockaway Branch
*Richmond Hill
Jamaica
*Hollis
*Francis Lewis Boulevard
Queens Village
*Bellerose
Floral Park
*Stewart Manor
*Nassau Boulevard
Garden City

Garden City JCT > Connect to the Proposed : LIRR / Oyster Bay Connector
East Garden City
Levittown - Wantagh State Parkway
Levittown (Underground)

*Farmingdale
*Pinelawn
Wyandanch
*Deer Park
Brentwood
Central Islip
Ronkonkoma
Dual EMU / DMU would service the rest of the line with Rush hour and Summer Season Service only
Medford
Yaphank
Riverhead
Mattituck
Southold
Greenport


I do plan on do 2 or 4 more lines , I will post them later this week along with my Proposed RER Boston Network & the Amtrak Expansion ideas I have.
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Sending humans to the MOON is cheaper than tunneling through Manhattan.

But, yeah, especially with Space X and company arriving on the scene its getting pretty cheap to be space, but more expensive to be under Manhattan.
Its a shame to since Tunneling these days can be done safer and faster then back in the old days.... And Cities like London , Tokyo and Paris can bore massive networks for the same price as the Second Avenue Subway or Gateway Project...
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Anyone have any ideas on why the capital costs are so high?
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Anyone have any ideas on why the capital costs are so high?
A few reasons I can think of...

1. Unions demanding ridiculously high pay
2. The most expensive bidder always being picked and sometimes the qaulity is worse then the lower bids
3. NIMBYs
4. NIMBYs who act like YIMBYs but force the project to bend over to all their needs ie a station in every town or neighborhood , grade seperation , quiet zones , The Rail Yard can't be built in the cheaper area since its near the residential area...
5. Outdated FRA & FTA regulations which im sure everyone aware of on this board..
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I never finished my Station listing to go along with my Map for the Long Island Railroad... Should have done that before doing the RER style system.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=293

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Main Line / Ronkonkoma Branch
New York Penn Station (Grand Central Terminal starting in 2023)
Sunnyside JCT
Woodside
Forest Hills
Kew Gardens
Jamaica
Hollis
Francis Lewis Boulevard
Queens Village
Floral Park
New Hyde Park
Merillon Avenue
Mineola
Carle Place
Westbury
Hicksville
Bethpage
Farmingdale
Pinelawn
Wyandanch
Deer Park
Brentwood
Central Islip
Ronkonkoma
Medford
Yaphank
Riverhead
Mattituck
Southold
Greenport


Oyster Bay Branch
New York Penn Station / Rush Hour Only [/B]
Jamaica
Mineola
East Williston
Albertson
Roslyn
Greenvale
Glen Head
Sea Cliff
Glen Street
Glen Cove
Locust Valley
Oyster Bay


Montauk Branch
Long Island City
Maspeth
Ridgewood JCT
Forest Hills JCT
Richmond Hill

Babylon
Bay Shore
Islip
Great River
Oakdale
Sayville
Patchogue
Bellport
Mastic – Shirley
Speonk
Westhampton
Hampton Bays
Southampton
Bridgehampton
East Hampton
Amagansett
Montauk


Port Jefferson Branch
New York Penn Station (Grand Central Terminal starting in 2023)
Sunnyside JCT
Jamaica
Mineola
Hicksville
Syosset
Cold Spring Harbor
Huntington (End of Electrified Services)
Greenlawn
Northport
Kings Park
Smithtown
St. James
Stony Brook
Port Jefferson


Oyster Bay Branch Extension * Oyster Bay Branch Electrfied with this routing
New York Penn Station (Grand Central Terminal Starting in 2023)
Sunnyside JCT
Woodside
Forest Hills
Kew Gardens
Jamaica
Saint Albans
Farmers Boulevard
Valley Stream
Westwood
Malverne
Lakeview
Hempstead Gardens
West Hempstead , Relocated underground or Elevated with this proposal
Atlantic Avenue (Underground)
Garden City JCT (Underground)
East Williston
Albertson
Roslyn
Greenvale
Glen Head
Sea Cliff
Glen Street
Glen Cove
Locust Valley
Oyster Bay
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Some more Through line Services...the connections between lines would use a series of Flying Junctions.

Current , Proposed / Planned or Under Construction
Stations marked with a * are skipped during rush hour

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Regional Connector - New Haven Line / Proposed : Hell Gate Line / Tri-Brorough Rail Link / Raritan Valley Line
Electrified the entire route at 25kV/60Hz overhead Catenary
New Haven - State Street > Connect to the Proposed : New Haven Streetcar Network
New Haven - Union Station > Connect to the Proposed : New Haven Streetcar Network
*West Haven > Connect to the Proposed : New Haven Streetcar Network
*Orange
Milford
Devon > Connect to the Waterbury Branch
*Stratford
*East Bridgeport
Bridgeport
*Fairfield Metro
Fairfield
*Southport
*Green Farms
Westport
*East Norwalk
South Norwalk > Connect to Danbury Branch
*Rowayton
Darien
*Norton Heights
East Stamford > Connect to the Proposed : Stamford LRT & BRT lines
Stamford > Connect to the Proposed : Stamford LRT & BRT lines
Old Greenwich
*Riverside
*Cos-Cob
Greenwich
*Port Chester
*Rye
*Harrison
*Mamaroneck
*Larchmont
New Rochelle
Pelham Manor
*City Island - Orchard Beach
Co-Op City
Morris Park
*Parkchester
Hunts Point
Jackson Heights
*Middle Village
Ridgewood JCT
*Bushwick
East New York
Canarsie
Midwood-Brooklyn College
Borough Park

St. George (Underground) > Connect to the Staten Island Ferry & RR
8th Street (Underground) > Connect to the Hudson Bergen LRT
Elizabethport > Connect to Proposed : NJT Newark - Elizabeth - Cranford LRT
Midtown Elizabeth
> Connect to Proposed : NJT Newark - Elizabeth - Cranford LRT
Cranford > Connect to Proposed : NJT Newark - Elizabeth - Cranford LRT
*Garwood
Westfield
*Fanwood
*Netherwood
Plainfield
*Dunellen
Bound Brook > Connect to Proposed : New Brunswick LRT
*Bridgewater
*Somerville
Raritan


Northern Connector Xpress - New Cannan Branch / New Haven Line / Proposed : Hell Gate line / LIRR Main Line
New Canaan
Talmadge Hill
Springdale
Glenbrook
East Stamford > Connect to the Proposed : Stamford LRT & BRT lines
Stamford > Connect to the Proposed : Stamford LRT & BRT lines
Greenwich
New Rochelle
Pelham Manor
Co-Op City
Jackson Heights

Eastbound Trains switch over to Top Contact 3rd Rail while Westbound trains switch over to 25kV/60Hz overhead Catenary on the Flying JCT
Jamaica
Mineola
Hicksville
Farmingdale
Wyandanch
Ronkonkoma


Northeast Corridor Local - Combines NJT and MNRR NEC Service
New Haven - State Street
New Haven - Union Station
West Haven
Orange
Milford
Devon
Stratford
East Bridgeport
Bridgeport
Fairfield Metro
Fairfield
Southport
Green Farms
Westport
East Norwalk
South Norwalk
Rowayton
Darien
Norton Heights
East Stamford
Stamford
Old Greenwich
Riverside
Cos-Cob
Greenwich
Port Chester
Rye
Harrison
Mamaroneck
Larchmont
New Rochelle
Pelham Manor
City Island - Orchard Beach
Co-Op City
Morris Park
Parkchester
Hunts Point
Sunnyside

New York Penn Station
Secaucus JCT
Newark Penn Station
South Street
Newark Liberty Airport
North Elizabeth
Elizabeth
Linden
Rahway
Metropark
Metuchen
Edison
New Brunswick
North Brunswick
Princeton JCT
Hamilton
Trenton


Highlands to the Ocean Service - May to Early November Weekends 8 Roundtrips a day - Hudson Line / Proposed : West Side Line / LIRR Main Line / Long Beach Branch
Poughkeepsie
New Hamburg
Beacon > Connect to Proposed : Beacon Line
Cold Spring
Peekskill
Croton Harmon
Tarrytown
Yonkers > Connect to Proposed : Route 100 LRT & BRT System
Inwood (Elevated)
125th Street (Elevated)
64th Street - Lincoln Center

New York Penn Station

Eastbound Trains switch over to Top Contact 3rd Rail while Westbound trains switch over to 25kV/60Hz overhead Catenary
Woodside
Jamaica
Island Park
Long Beach
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Some Metro North - New Haven Line - Walk Bridge Replacement estimates and diagrams...

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015
Written by William C. Vantuono, Editor-in-Chief

“First, Baker and her crew tested the equipment by calibrating and checking the technology. Baker tested the Speed-O-Meter app she was using for accuracy alongside the speedometer in a car—and found it to be pretty accurate. Using the app and a radar gun along multiple routes, CBS2’s Baker went out to test the rails of NJ Transit, following complaints. She clocked a 72 mph train zooming through Secaucus Junction, and a 69 mph train speeding through South Orange—a smaller station.”
Read this the rest here : http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/...he-rescue.html

Typical US Fear Mongering reporting....

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NJ Transit employees and members of the Amalgamated Transit Union demonstrate against NJ Transit's proposed 9 percent fare hike and service cuts at a public hearing in Freehold Township Monday night. (Larry Higgs | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com)

By Larry Higgs | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
on May 19, 2015 at 7:53 AM, updated May 19, 2015 at 7:55 AM

A young homeowner told NJ Transit officials that a proposed 9 percent fare increase would drive his family out of the state.

Ken Ramsey of Matawan said he and his wife commute to New York, where they work for non-profits. They lived in an apartment, and saved their money to buy a modest house in which to raise their two-year-old son, he said.

The fare increase that the couple would pay would be a staggering blow to the young family's tight budget, Ramsey said, adding they live paycheck-to-paycheck.
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Transforming Mobility on Long Island Requires the 'Third Track'

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Posted: 05/14/2015 8:32 am EDT Updated: 05/14/2015 10:59 pm EDT

Mobility is the key to revitalizing Long Island's economy: mobility within Long Island as well as to and from New York City and beyond. That includes far better reverse commuting -- to Long Island in the morning and back to New York City at night.
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Updated 2:57 pm, Thursday, May 21, 2015

STAMFORD -- City and state officials prayed for an end to car versus train accidents Thursday as they unveiled a new safety gate at one of the Metro-North New Haven Line's most dangerous rail crossings.

The state Department of Transportation, the city and the Riverbend Center office park -- where The Advocate leases office space -- split the $1.27 million cost of installing the new gate arms and new signals at the crossing. The tracks run across one of three entrances to Hope Street office park in Springdale. The other two other crossings in the office park have had gates for some years.
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Northeast Corridor at New Haven - State Street Station
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Northeast Corridor at New Haven - State Street Station
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Northeast Corridor at New Haven - State Street Station
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Northeast Corridor at New Haven - State Street Station
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Northeast Corridor at New Haven - State Street Station
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Northeast Corridor at New Haven - State Street Station
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Northeast Corridor at New Haven - State Street Station
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Northeast Corridor at New Haven - State Street Station
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Northeast Corridor at New Haven - State Street Station
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Some Random Scenes from Metro North Yesterday


Empty M8 Seats
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Early Morning Inbound Metro North Rush Hour Trains
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Early Morning Inbound Metro North Rush Hour Trains
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This Station is Stamford
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M8 3rd Rail Shoe
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Metro North&#x27;s New Haven Line - at Devon
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Harlem Line Tracks in Wakefield
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Outbound Metro North Rush Hour trains in the Bronx
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Outbound Metro North Rush Hour trains in the Bronx
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Will commuter trains ever roll on the West Trenton Line? Ask @Commuting Larry finds out

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