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Old September 17th, 2016, 02:54 PM   #1141
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Does anyone have any information on this renovation (?) I saw the other day at 34th St/Penn Station (pics below)?? Any renderings? Will it just be these few platforms? Seems like it was for LIRR trains.
I think that's the new [West] concourse that's part of Moynihan Phase I, right?
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Old September 17th, 2016, 06:10 PM   #1142
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Sure seems like it
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Old September 17th, 2016, 06:22 PM   #1143
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Thanks it indeed looks like the new West End Concourse as part of Phase 1... Is there any timeline of when it's supposed to finish? I checked online but couldn't find anything.
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Thanks it indeed looks like the new West End Concourse as part of Phase 1... Is there any timeline of when it's supposed to finish? I checked online but couldn't find anything.
In the fall, apparently.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 12:31 AM   #1145
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Old September 27th, 2016, 11:47 PM   #1147
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Governor Cuomo unveils plans for Penn Station's massive revamp


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Brace yourselves, New Yorkers: a new Penn Station is officially coming—for real this time. Today, Governor Andrew Cuomo unveiled plans for the forthcoming Pennsylvania Station-Farley Complex, along with announcing the developers and builders who will collaborate on the project. The plans call for a brand new, 255,000-square-foot train hall, which will accommodate both Amtrak and Long Island Rail Road passengers, that’s scheduled to be completed by the end of 2020. (Yes, you read that date right.)

...Unsurprisingly, the partnership is made up of some of the real estate business's biggest names: Related Companies, Vornado Realty, and Skanska. Those three companies will work together, using the designs proposed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, to bring the revamped Penn Station to life.






Three Major Takeaways:

1. The James A. Farley Post Office building has been "reimagined from the original plan," which had called for the building to hold only Amtrak. Now, it will measure 250,000 square feet (larger than Grand Central Terminal), and will be known as the Moynihan Train Hall. It will hold Amtrak and the LIRR, along with 700,000 square feet of retail and office space. The design is similar to the renderings, created by SOM, that were revealed in January, with a dramatic glass skylight (meant to reference McKim, Mead & White's old Penn Station) arching over the concourse.

2. The LIRR concourses that currently sit within Penn Station will be redeveloped, and headed up by the MTA. This will include "nearly tripling the width of the 33rd Street Corridor, which is among the busiest sections of Penn Station and stretches along the station’s lower level from Seventh to Eighth Avenue." An RFP will be issued for this work today, and a contractor may be chosen before the end of the year.

3. Both subway stations that service Penn Station—the A/C/E at Eighth Avenue and the 1/2/3 at Seventh Avenue—will be completely redone in keeping with the MTA’s plans, announced earlier this year, to upgrade 31 stations throughout the entire system.





















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This is what, the seventh time in the past decade or so that they've announced this and released renderings?

Can someone tell me what's different this time?
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This is what, the seventh time in the past decade or so that they've announced this and released renderings?

Can someone tell me what's different this time?
They have financing and funding, a consortium (PPP), and support of the governor.
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Old September 29th, 2016, 05:33 PM   #1150
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A spokeswoman for NJ Transit said train No. 1614 crashed into the Hoboken train station around 8:45 a.m. It left Spring Valley, N.Y. at 7:23 a.m.
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...n_station.html





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The crash at Hoboken Terminal may be the deadliest in the history of NJ Transit. On Feb 9, 1996, 3 people (2 engineers and a passenger) were killed in a collision in Jersey City, NJ.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/02/10/ny...ew-jersey.html
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When again is PTC supposed to be implemented on the NJT? This is so sad!
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Thankfully the crash only resulted in one death, a woman from Hoboken who was hit by debris while standing on the platform. 108 were injured on the train as many were standing in the aisles preparing to leave the train at the last stop, a very common practice. 8:45 AM is practically the peak of the morning rush-hour, so it could have been far worse!

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Old September 30th, 2016, 07:58 PM   #1154
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In addition to the new Farley/Moynihan expansion for Penn Station....

Here is a new proposal set forth by the Practice for Architecture and Urbanism to transform/repurpose the existing Madison Square Garden into a grand new train hall for Penn Station



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Its passive heat and cooling system would lower operating costs and let smoke escape through the top in an emergency. Independent cost consultants estimated the price tag to be around $1.5 billion.

...But equally important, “recycling” what’s there allows for the building of an ambitious new station at minimal cost and disruption. We could restore a gateway to New York with a scale consistent with other great public spaces in the city.

...The Garden, which is getting old and has problems of its own, has compelling reasons to move. Given fair incentives, its owners, who have shown themselves to be reasonable and civic-minded, could be willing to move the arena 800 feet to the west end of the Farley Building, where there is over one million square feet of underutilized space

...We would take off its unsightly concrete cladding, demolish the interior, rebuild the mezzanines and vertical circulation to the platforms below, and remove many of the support columns on the train platforms that passengers have to dodge today. The concrete cladding would be replaced by a “double skin,” a blastproof glass facade that would allow in light and views while enabling passive heating and cooling.

...We propose that the ceiling, which is the roof of the existing arena, feature a map of New York to orient travelers, a contemporary update of the stars on the ceiling of Grand Central.
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An LIRR train derailed and hit a work train at around 9 PM. The news stories are not too clear about whether the train derailed and side-swiped the work train or if it ran into the work train as only the first three cars of the 12-car train derailed. 11 people received minor injuries that required attention, and about 50 had very minor bumps and scrapes, which makes it seem like a very minor collision.



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This again unveils that the situation of rail safety systems in the region is not what it should be. Normally, at least at this side of the ocean, the track on which a work train is active, is blocked and the signal red unless speeds are low (e.g. <40kph/<25mph), and nowadays even this exception should be able to be avoided. I'm not an expert on signals in the USA but even when systems are not even that old, either the newest technologies or updated systems could have prevented both crashes.
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Question: will this proposal for the "new" Penn Station allow the retaining of Madison Square Garden itself? They just spent US$1 billion on modernizing the building just a few years ago.
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Question: will this proposal for the "new" Penn Station allow the retaining of Madison Square Garden itself? They just spent US$1 billion on modernizing the building just a few years ago.
The main proposal currently put forth from the governor's office calls for the arena to remain where it is.

The proposal posted just above calls for retaining the roof and support structure, but gutting the interior entirely.

Other proposals put forth call for demolishing the building entirely.

Even with the recent investment in it, the current MSG has very serious issues. The structure itself is worn out, and it is not capable of handling modern functions very well. Major events like concerts put significant strain on the building's handling systems and the streets around it due to the large amount of equipment involved. Site lines are sub-optimal, and the building is not attractive.

The overhaul was a misguided attempt at a stopgap. The owners recognize that the building is inadequate, but they also realize that any replacement will be beyond anything that they can finance on their own. That is why they applied to have their license renewed indefinitely.
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